Hello everybody, I''m trying to figure out how XenClient works. I would like to use it on a Dell Latitude E6400 with plenty of memory so taht I can have both Linux and Windows running at the same time. Does it work the same way as "classical" Xen on servers (ie with Dom0 and DomU) ? So, in order to install it, I''ll have to set up a minimal Dom0, compile 32bits XenClient and then install DomU, right ? For DomU installation, can I do it the same way as for servers (using CDRom or PXE for example) ? I''m sorry if it seems too easy for you, but I''m a bit confused with that. Regards, JB _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
I have been trying to install Xen from past 2 weeks to get it working I have tried CentOS ,Debian,Ubuntu,OpenSuse on machines of various configurations and 2 Dell Laptops I have read a lot of blogs one book about Xen some wiki pages on Xenwiki website chatted with people on IRC but I still have failed to get Xen working for me as mentioned the only luck I got was installing CentOS with precompiled kernel on 2 different machines both gave PCI MMCONFIG Error and one of them booted other one did not booted with Xen finally installation of DomU failed on this one on which CentOS was installed. Xen booted the machine has 4 GB Memory but still when I started to install guest OS as Ubuntu it hanged for about an hour I had to forcefullly shutdown Debian, I am right now compiling the kernel and the binaries also have got a lot of errors probably I am not sure what binaries/libraries are missing in my file which have failed Ubuntu 9.04 ,got some luck in installing but the installation of guest OS from debootstrap method failed after it downloaded everything from internet and my hard disk crashed OpenSuse 11.2 on one of the Asus motherboard did not worked at all. The READMEs given in the tar files I dont think are sufficient for me I have successfully configured a PXE boot server ,and compiled a kernel in past for normal works and configured IPTABLES so I am not new to Linux at least.But still Xen config parameters and libraries specially virt-manager have not been easy for me to get it working if you wish I can forward you a tutorial I got from one of the users. On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Jean Baptiste Favre <jean-baptiste.favre@wanadoo.fr> wrote:> Hello everybody, > I''m trying to figure out how XenClient works. I would like to use it on a > Dell Latitude E6400 with plenty of memory so taht I can have both Linux and > Windows running at the same time. > > Does it work the same way as "classical" Xen on servers (ie with Dom0 and > DomU) ? > So, in order to install it, I''ll have to set up a minimal Dom0, compile > 32bits XenClient and then install DomU, right ? > For DomU installation, can I do it the same way as for servers (using CDRom > or PXE for example) ? > > I''m sorry if it seems too easy for you, but I''m a bit confused with that. > > Regards, > JB > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >-- http://www.abhitech.com _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 00:04 +0100, Jean Baptiste Favre wrote:> Hello everybody, > I''m trying to figure out how XenClient works. I would like to use it on > a Dell Latitude E6400 with plenty of memory so taht I can have both > Linux and Windows running at the same time. > > Does it work the same way as "classical" Xen on servers (ie with Dom0 > and DomU) ? > So, in order to install it, I''ll have to set up a minimal Dom0, compile > 32bits XenClient and then install DomU, right ? > For DomU installation, can I do it the same way as for servers (using > CDRom or PXE for example) ? > > I''m sorry if it seems too easy for you, but I''m a bit confused with that. > > Regards, > JB >Just took a quick glance at the citrix pages. I don''t think that it is what you think. I believe it is a component of a centrally managed XenDesktop environment. If you are thinking of it as something like VirtualBox, I don''t think it is what you are looking for. Everyone: please correct me if I am wrong :) _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 04:55 +0530, Tapas Mishra wrote:> I have been trying to install Xen from past 2 weeks to get it working > I have tried CentOS ,Debian,Ubuntu,OpenSuse on machines of various > configurations and 2 Dell Laptops I have read a lot of blogs one book > about Xen some wiki pages on Xenwiki website chatted with people on > IRC but I still have failed to get Xen working for me as mentioned > the only luck I got was installing CentOS with precompiled kernel > on 2 different machines both gave PCI MMCONFIG Error and one of them > booted other one did not booted with Xen > finally installation of DomU failed on this one on which CentOS was > installed. Xen booted the machine has 4 GB Memory but still when I > started to install guest OS as Ubuntu it hanged for about an hour I > had to forcefullly shutdown Debian, I am right now compiling the > kernel and the binaries also have got a lot of errors probably I am > not sure what binaries/libraries are missing in my file which have > failed Ubuntu 9.04 ,got some luck in installing but the installation > of guest OS from debootstrap method failed after it downloaded > everything from internet and my hard disk crashed > OpenSuse 11.2 on one of the Asus motherboard did not worked at all. > The READMEs given in the tar files I dont think are sufficient for me > I have successfully configured a PXE boot server ,and compiled a > kernel in past for normal works and configured IPTABLES so I am not > new to Linux at least.But still Xen config parameters and libraries > specially virt-manager have not been easy for me to get it working if > you wish I can forward you a tutorial I got from one of the users.Do not hijack threads. You have roughly 3 threads open asking for help, be patient and wait for a response. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 27/11/2009 04:33, Tait Clarridge wrote:> On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 00:04 +0100, Jean Baptiste Favre wrote: > >> Hello everybody, >> I''m trying to figure out how XenClient works. I would like to use it on >> a Dell Latitude E6400 with plenty of memory so taht I can have both >> Linux and Windows running at the same time. >> >> Does it work the same way as "classical" Xen on servers (ie with Dom0 >> and DomU) ? >> So, in order to install it, I''ll have to set up a minimal Dom0, compile >> 32bits XenClient and then install DomU, right ? >> For DomU installation, can I do it the same way as for servers (using >> CDRom or PXE for example) ? >> >> I''m sorry if it seems too easy for you, but I''m a bit confused with that. >> >> Regards, >> JB >> >> > Just took a quick glance at the citrix pages. I don''t think that it is > what you think. I believe it is a component of a centrally managed > XenDesktop environment. > > If you are thinking of it as something like VirtualBox, I don''t think it > is what you are looking for. > > Everyone: please correct me if I am wrong :) >From what I understood, XenClient allow me to have multiple OS running on the same hardware with direct access to, for example, graphic cards. It has the same working scheme Xen server has, ie a Dom0 and multiple DomU. With XenServer, I need to install Dom0 with a fully functionnal server OS. In my case, I mostly use Debian. Then, I have to custom this Debian installation to make Xen running. My question is: do I need to install a Dom0 like XenServer, or will XenClient provide all what I need to run Dom0 ? In the second case, I''ll only have to install XenClient, boot on it and install DomU. For DomU installation, will I need to use PXE or CDROM based installation. If using CDROM, will I have a transparent access to physical CDROM or will I have to use a loop device with iso file ? Regards, JB _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
I am also struggling to understand this myself. But just to be clear, are you talking about the Citrix XenClient or the open source Xen Client aka XCI? As I understand it correctly from the wiki, the XCI can be build from git and will then produce all files you need to setup a XCI machine (see http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XciBuildingInstructions for more info on how to build and http://joshlander.com/?p=22 for more info on how to build and/or install XCI). But I am also still trying to get in actually working myself, so cannot help you with that really. Another way to accomplish the same result (please correct me if I''m wrong, I''m NOT sure about this one) can also be that you compile Xen as you always do (when building a Xen host that is) and then play with the pass-through options to pass-through the VGA e.d. But I don''t know what implications that will give. One thing that I seems to understand is that maintenance and configuration will be a lot harder in this case when using it as something for you notebook or desktop. So I think the first option is the way to go in your situation. But as I said, I''m still a newbie myself if we''re talking about XCI so don''t hang me if I''m wrong ;) Sander -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Jean Baptiste FAVRE Sent: vrijdag 27 november 2009 10:57 To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-users] XenClient questions On 27/11/2009 04:33, Tait Clarridge wrote:> On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 00:04 +0100, Jean Baptiste Favre wrote: > >> Hello everybody, >> I''m trying to figure out how XenClient works. I would like to use it on >> a Dell Latitude E6400 with plenty of memory so taht I can have both >> Linux and Windows running at the same time. >> >> Does it work the same way as "classical" Xen on servers (ie with Dom0 >> and DomU) ? >> So, in order to install it, I''ll have to set up a minimal Dom0, compile >> 32bits XenClient and then install DomU, right ? >> For DomU installation, can I do it the same way as for servers (using >> CDRom or PXE for example) ? >> >> I''m sorry if it seems too easy for you, but I''m a bit confused with that. >> >> Regards, >> JB >> >> > Just took a quick glance at the citrix pages. I don''t think that it is > what you think. I believe it is a component of a centrally managed > XenDesktop environment. > > If you are thinking of it as something like VirtualBox, I don''t think it > is what you are looking for. > > Everyone: please correct me if I am wrong :) >From what I understood, XenClient allow me to have multiple OS running on the same hardware with direct access to, for example, graphic cards. It has the same working scheme Xen server has, ie a Dom0 and multiple DomU. With XenServer, I need to install Dom0 with a fully functionnal server OS. In my case, I mostly use Debian. Then, I have to custom this Debian installation to make Xen running. My question is: do I need to install a Dom0 like XenServer, or will XenClient provide all what I need to run Dom0 ? In the second case, I''ll only have to install XenClient, boot on it and install DomU. For DomU installation, will I need to use PXE or CDROM based installation. If using CDROM, will I have a transparent access to physical CDROM or will I have to use a loop device with iso file ? Regards, JB _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hello, I''m talking about the opensource version, as it''s for personnal use for the moment. Before trying to build it, I first want to understand how it works, so that I can smoothly break my head trying to make run ;-) Have seen some video (in french, yeah !!) so I think I understand much more: - XenClient is type 1 hypervisor - XenClient will act as "Dom0" and other OS as "DomU" - Only one VM can get direct access to 3D graphic card. Others can only have accelerated 2D. Now, I''ll study build and installation instructions. Feel free to correct me if I''m wrong, Regards, JB On 27/11/2009 11:25, S. J. van Harmelen wrote:> I am also struggling to understand this myself. But just to be clear, are you talking about the Citrix XenClient or the open source Xen Client aka XCI? > > As I understand it correctly from the wiki, the XCI can be build from git and will then produce all files you need to setup a XCI machine (see http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XciBuildingInstructions for more info on how to build and http://joshlander.com/?p=22 for more info on how to build and/or install XCI). > > But I am also still trying to get in actually working myself, so cannot help you with that really. > > Another way to accomplish the same result (please correct me if I''m wrong, I''m NOT sure about this one) can also be that you compile Xen as you always do (when building a Xen host that is) and then play with the pass-through options to pass-through the VGA e.d. But I don''t know what implications that will give. One thing that I seems to understand is that maintenance and configuration will be a lot harder in this case when using it as something for you notebook or desktop. > > So I think the first option is the way to go in your situation. But as I said, I''m still a newbie myself if we''re talking about XCI so don''t hang me if I''m wrong ;) > > Sander > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Jean Baptiste FAVRE > Sent: vrijdag 27 november 2009 10:57 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] XenClient questions > > On 27/11/2009 04:33, Tait Clarridge wrote: > >> On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 00:04 +0100, Jean Baptiste Favre wrote: >> >> >>> Hello everybody, >>> I''m trying to figure out how XenClient works. I would like to use it on >>> a Dell Latitude E6400 with plenty of memory so taht I can have both >>> Linux and Windows running at the same time. >>> >>> Does it work the same way as "classical" Xen on servers (ie with Dom0 >>> and DomU) ? >>> So, in order to install it, I''ll have to set up a minimal Dom0, compile >>> 32bits XenClient and then install DomU, right ? >>> For DomU installation, can I do it the same way as for servers (using >>> CDRom or PXE for example) ? >>> >>> I''m sorry if it seems too easy for you, but I''m a bit confused with that. >>> >>> Regards, >>> JB >>> >>> >>> >> Just took a quick glance at the citrix pages. I don''t think that it is >> what you think. I believe it is a component of a centrally managed >> XenDesktop environment. >> >> If you are thinking of it as something like VirtualBox, I don''t think it >> is what you are looking for. >> >> Everyone: please correct me if I am wrong :) >> >> > From what I understood, XenClient allow me to have multiple OS running > on the same hardware with direct access to, for example, graphic cards. > It has the same working scheme Xen server has, ie a Dom0 and multiple DomU. > With XenServer, I need to install Dom0 with a fully functionnal server > OS. In my case, I mostly use Debian. Then, I have to custom this Debian > installation to make Xen running. > > My question is: do I need to install a Dom0 like XenServer, or will > XenClient provide all what I need to run Dom0 ? > In the second case, I''ll only have to install XenClient, boot on it and > install DomU. > > For DomU installation, will I need to use PXE or CDROM based > installation. If using CDROM, will I have a transparent access to > physical CDROM or will I have to use a loop device with iso file ? > Regards, > JB > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users