David Griswold
2009-Jun-12  12:59 UTC
[Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
I thought I was going crazy the first time this happened.  I was reinstalling a
production domU on a production server and I turned around and saw the server
rebooting.  So I tried it again, after hours, and I saw exactly what you did.  I
have pretty much the same exact setup, but 32 bit.
CentOS 5.3 32bit with Xen 3.4.0 from Gitco on a IBM x3650 w/4 GB RAM
David Griswold
IT Manager
OneWorld Community Health Centers
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:00:44 +0300
From: Pekka.Panula@sofor.fi
Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
        whole system
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Hi
CentOS 5.3 64-bit server with RPMS from Gitco''s untested repository
(=Xen 3.4.0).
 I am testing to install Windows 2003 server R2, but when copying files goes to
99% it reboots whole server.
Is there anyone else who is also using same Xen version and tested windows
installation?
Terveisin/Regards,
   Pekka Panula, Net Servant Oy
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Ian Tobin
2009-Jun-12  13:20 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
Have you tried installing Windows Standard then upgrading to R2?
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Sent: 12 June 2009 14:00
To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Subject: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
I thought I was going crazy the first time this happened.  I was
reinstalling a production domU on a production server and I turned
around and saw the server rebooting.  So I tried it again, after hours,
and I saw exactly what you did.  I have pretty much the same exact
setup, but 32 bit.
CentOS 5.3 32bit with Xen 3.4.0 from Gitco on a IBM x3650 w/4 GB RAM
David Griswold
IT Manager
OneWorld Community Health Centers
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:00:44 +0300
From: Pekka.Panula@sofor.fi
Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
        whole system
To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
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Hi
CentOS 5.3 64-bit server with RPMS from Gitco''s untested repository
(=Xen 3.4.0).
 I am testing to install Windows 2003 server R2, but when copying files
goes to 99% it reboots whole server.
Is there anyone else who is also using same Xen version and tested
windows installation?
Terveisin/Regards,
   Pekka Panula, Net Servant Oy
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David Griswold
2009-Jun-12  14:26 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
I have not, but I am not sure that I have an install disk for pre-R2 Win2k3
server.  I''ll try it if I can find one and report my findings.
I have to admit, I haven''t installed any Win2K3 R2 servers on Xen since
3.0.3, which is what came with CentOS 5.2.  I just upgraded Xen and continued to
run the same domU images, without issue.  I wonder if it has to do with the
''acpi''/''apic'' settings in the domU config? 
It''s been a couple of months, but I remember something about having to
set these to ''0'' during install and then back to
''1'' after the install was done.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Tobin [mailto:itobin@tidyhosts.com]
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:20 AM
To: David Griswold; xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Subject: RE: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
Have you tried installing Windows Standard then upgrading to R2?
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Sent: 12 June 2009 14:00
To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Subject: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
I thought I was going crazy the first time this happened.  I was reinstalling a
production domU on a production server and I turned around and saw the server
rebooting.  So I tried it again, after hours, and I saw exactly what you did.  I
have pretty much the same exact setup, but 32 bit.
CentOS 5.3 32bit with Xen 3.4.0 from Gitco on a IBM x3650 w/4 GB RAM
David Griswold
IT Manager
OneWorld Community Health Centers
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:00:44 +0300
From: Pekka.Panula@sofor.fi
Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
        whole system
To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
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Hi
CentOS 5.3 64-bit server with RPMS from Gitco''s untested repository
(=Xen 3.4.0).
 I am testing to install Windows 2003 server R2, but when copying files goes to
99% it reboots whole server.
Is there anyone else who is also using same Xen version and tested windows
installation?
Terveisin/Regards,
   Pekka Panula, Net Servant Oy
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Ian Tobin
2009-Jun-12  14:32 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
Ive installed R2 using the defaults which is 
Acpi=1
Apic=1
Not had any problems installing
Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: David Griswold [mailto:dgriswold@oneworldomaha.org] 
Sent: 12 June 2009 15:27
To: Ian Tobin; xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Subject: RE: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation
crashes
I have not, but I am not sure that I have an install disk for pre-R2
Win2k3 server.  I''ll try it if I can find one and report my findings.
I have to admit, I haven''t installed any Win2K3 R2 servers on Xen since
3.0.3, which is what came with CentOS 5.2.  I just upgraded Xen and
continued to run the same domU images, without issue.  I wonder if it
has to do with the ''acpi''/''apic'' settings in
the domU config?  It''s been
a couple of months, but I remember something about having to set these
to ''0'' during install and then back to ''1''
after the install was done.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Tobin [mailto:itobin@tidyhosts.com]
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:20 AM
To: David Griswold; xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Subject: RE: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation
crashes
Have you tried installing Windows Standard then upgrading to R2?
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[mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of David
Griswold
Sent: 12 June 2009 14:00
To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Subject: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
I thought I was going crazy the first time this happened.  I was
reinstalling a production domU on a production server and I turned
around and saw the server rebooting.  So I tried it again, after hours,
and I saw exactly what you did.  I have pretty much the same exact
setup, but 32 bit.
CentOS 5.3 32bit with Xen 3.4.0 from Gitco on a IBM x3650 w/4 GB RAM
David Griswold
IT Manager
OneWorld Community Health Centers
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:00:44 +0300
From: Pekka.Panula@sofor.fi
Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
        whole system
To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
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Hi
CentOS 5.3 64-bit server with RPMS from Gitco''s untested repository
(=Xen 3.4.0).
 I am testing to install Windows 2003 server R2, but when copying files
goes to 99% it reboots whole server.
Is there anyone else who is also using same Xen version and tested
windows installation?
Terveisin/Regards,
   Pekka Panula, Net Servant Oy
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David Griswold
2009-Jun-12  16:31 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
OK - I figured this out, for me at least.  As I stated, I was doing a reinstall,
so I was having the domU boot up with the CD ISO mounted and re-installing into
an existing domU configuration.  Well, I forgot that I had installed the GPLPV
drivers in this domU, so the domU was configured as such.  I took at look at the
SXP file for the domU and it contains the line ''(driver
paravirtualised)'' for various devices.  Maybe it''s that odd
British/Canadian spelling of the word ''paravirtualised'' that
does it :)
So, I started with a new domU and the install has gone smoothly.
Hope this helps someone else.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Tobin [mailto:itobin@tidyhosts.com]
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:32 AM
To: David Griswold; xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Subject: RE: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
Ive installed R2 using the defaults which is
Acpi=1
Apic=1
Not had any problems installing
Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: David Griswold [mailto:dgriswold@oneworldomaha.org]
Sent: 12 June 2009 15:27
To: Ian Tobin; xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Subject: RE: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
I have not, but I am not sure that I have an install disk for pre-R2
Win2k3 server.  I''ll try it if I can find one and report my findings.
I have to admit, I haven''t installed any Win2K3 R2 servers on Xen since
3.0.3, which is what came with CentOS 5.2.  I just upgraded Xen and continued to
run the same domU images, without issue.  I wonder if it has to do with the
''acpi''/''apic'' settings in the domU config? 
It''s been a couple of months, but I remember something about having to
set these to ''0'' during install and then back to
''1'' after the install was done.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Tobin [mailto:itobin@tidyhosts.com]
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:20 AM
To: David Griswold; xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Subject: RE: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
Have you tried installing Windows Standard then upgrading to R2?
-----Original Message-----
From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com
[mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of David Griswold
Sent: 12 June 2009 14:00
To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Subject: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
I thought I was going crazy the first time this happened.  I was reinstalling a
production domU on a production server and I turned around and saw the server
rebooting.  So I tried it again, after hours, and I saw exactly what you did.  I
have pretty much the same exact setup, but 32 bit.
CentOS 5.3 32bit with Xen 3.4.0 from Gitco on a IBM x3650 w/4 GB RAM
David Griswold
IT Manager
OneWorld Community Health Centers
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:00:44 +0300
From: Pekka.Panula@sofor.fi
Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
        whole system
To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
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Hi
CentOS 5.3 64-bit server with RPMS from Gitco''s untested repository
(=Xen 3.4.0).
 I am testing to install Windows 2003 server R2, but when copying files goes to
99% it reboots whole server.
Is there anyone else who is also using same Xen version and tested windows
installation?
Terveisin/Regards,
   Pekka Panula, Net Servant Oy
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Fajar A. Nugraha
2009-Jun-13  05:18 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:31 PM, David Griswold<dgriswold@oneworldomaha.org> wrote:> OK - I figured this out, for me at least. As I stated, I was doing a reinstall, so I was having the domU boot up with the CD ISO mounted and re-installing into an existing domU configuration. Well, I forgot that I had installed the GPLPV drivers in this domU, so the domU was configured as such.Whatever domU does should never cause dom0 to crash. If it does then it''s a bug. It would be helpful if you can get some logs (console log most likely) when the crash occured and report it to the developers. -- Fajar _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Michael David Crawford
2009-Jun-13  05:40 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:> Whatever domU does should never cause dom0 to crash. If it does then > it''s a bug. It would be helpful if you can get some logs (console log > most likely) when the crash occured and report it to the developers.After I installed the GPLPV drivers into a Windows XP SP3 DomU, it would reliably hang my Dom0 right when the XP boot changed from the row of little white bars to the graphical boot screen. I was completely unable to run my XP DomU after that. I am intending to file a bug report, but haven''t set up a serial console yet. Once I can do that, to see if there are any error messages to the console, I''ll file the bug. The Dom0 didn''t panic or oops - it just froze completely. Couldn''t move the cursor, and it didn''t answer pings. Mike -- Michael David Crawford mdc@prgmr.com prgmr.com - We Don''t Assume You Are Stupid. Xen-Powered Virtual Private Servers: http://prgmr.com/xen _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
James Harper
2009-Jun-13  06:21 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
> > Fajar A. Nugraha wrote: > > Whatever domU does should never cause dom0 to crash. If it does then > > it''s a bug. It would be helpful if you can get some logs (consolelog> > most likely) when the crash occured and report it to the developers. > > After I installed the GPLPV drivers into a Windows XP SP3 DomU, itwould> reliably hang my Dom0 right when the XP boot changed from the row of > little white bars to the graphical boot screen. >What version of GPLPV? Thanks James _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Michael David Crawford
2009-Jun-13  07:34 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
James Harper wrote:>> After I installed the GPLPV drivers into a Windows XP SP3 DomU, it > would >> reliably hang my Dom0 right when the XP boot changed from the row of >> little white bars to the graphical boot screen. >> > > What version of GPLPV?0.9.12 pre-13. That was the latest as of about a week ago. Possibly my problem has to do with my Dom0 kernel, which is the git-tip/next Linux, again as of about a week ago, along with the release 3.4.0 Xen kernel. When I do file a bug report, I''ll attach my Linux kernel build .config to the report. The XP is an OEM SP3 CD - that is, Service Pack 3 was already applied to the Windows installer, rather than applied by me after installation. Without the GPLPV, XP works reliably but was unusably slow. I even tried moving it to a physical partition, but that didn''t affect the performance any. BeOS 5 Pro also works reliably as an HVM DomU, but is *profoundly* slow - taking more than twenty minutes to boot, and menus taking a couple minutes to open after clicking on them. Ironically, BeOS is a remarkably efficient operating system; it was always snappy and responsive when installed directly on my 150 MHz PowerPC 604 Mac. (It supports both x86 and PowerPC.) I had great hopes of hosting a whole bunch of different operating systems under Xen to aid in my development of a cross-platform audio application, but in its present state it''s just not going to work for me. At least for now, I''ve moved to VirtualBox - which has its problems too, but at least the guests aren''t so slow. But I''m happy to do whatever I can to help get Xen to the point where it *could* serve my needs. Mike -- Michael David Crawford mdc@prgmr.com prgmr.com - We Don''t Assume You Are Stupid. Xen-Powered Virtual Private Servers: http://prgmr.com/xen _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
James Harper
2009-Jun-13  08:09 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
> > James Harper wrote: > >> After I installed the GPLPV drivers into a Windows XP SP3 DomU, it > > would > >> reliably hang my Dom0 right when the XP boot changed from the rowof> >> little white bars to the graphical boot screen. > >> > > > > What version of GPLPV? > > 0.9.12 pre-13. That was the latest as of about a week ago.The 0.10.x.x series are the latest ones. 0.9.x hasn''t been maintained for a while. Under 3.3.x I haven''t had a Dom0 lockup in quite a while. The only thing I do which is a bit out of sorts is deliberately send Dom0 (blkback) two bad requests. I do this to determine whether the ring backend is aligned to 32 or 64 bits. Everything else should be pretty much the same as the linux frontend drivers. James _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Michael David Crawford
2009-Jun-13  08:18 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
James Harper wrote:> The 0.10.x.x series are the latest ones. 0.9.x hasn''t been maintained > for a while.Oopsy. The GPLPV download page is kinda confusing, being a massive listing of every release there ever was. I''ll make sure I get what''s really the latest, and will give it a try this weekend. Mike -- Michael David Crawford mdc@prgmr.com prgmr.com - We Don''t Assume You Are Stupid. Xen-Powered Virtual Private Servers: http://prgmr.com/xen _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Pekka.Panula@sofor.fi
2009-Jun-15  05:55 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes
Hi It''s kinda hard to get _any_ log, because its instant reboot. Is it hypervisor that is crashing, not dom0? Terveisin/Regards, Pekka Panula, Net Servant Oy xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com wrote on 13.06.2009 08:18:59:> From: > > "Fajar A. Nugraha" <fajar@fajar.net> > > To: > > Xen User-List <xen-users@lists.xensource.com> > > Date: > > 13.06.2009 08:20 > > Subject: > > Re: [Xen-users] RE: Xen 3.4.0, windows 2003 R2 installation crashes > > Sent by: > > xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:31 PM, David > Griswold<dgriswold@oneworldomaha.org> wrote: > > OK - I figured this out, for me at least. As I stated, I was doing a > reinstall, so I was having the domU boot up with the CD ISO mounted andre-> installing into an existing domU configuration. Well, I forgot that Ihad> installed the GPLPV drivers in this domU, so the domU was configured assuch.> > Whatever domU does should never cause dom0 to crash. If it does then > it''s a bug. It would be helpful if you can get some logs (console log > most likely) when the crash occured and report it to the developers. > > -- > Fajar > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users