Hello! I''m wondering about using windows 2003 for MSSQL replication. Is someone using win server on xen in production? What is experience of using this? Is it production ready? _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Xen and Windows is not production ready (PV drivers are still beta and in development). However the commerical varient Citrix XenServer is production ready. -- Randy www.FastServ.com ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Ma-ris Ruskulis <maris@chown.lv> To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:30:27 +0200 Subject: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production?> Hello! > I''m wondering about using windows 2003 for MSSQL replication. Is someone > using win server on xen in production? What is experience of using this? > Is it production ready? > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users------- End of Original Message ------- _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Xen.org HVM DomUs would probably be equally production-ready barring Windows drivers, though, and on top of that I believe some users do use GPLPV drivers in production in spite of best practice concerns and downtime risk. I am not sure how great HVM domUs would be for DB service in general, though. Without drivers it would certainly be costly in terms of performance. With drivers, I believe the GPLPV drivers perform better that the Citrix ones to such an extent that some Citrix users have tried to use them (which may or may not be possible but that would have to be verified in this list''s archives). Dustin -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Randy McAnally Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 09:24 To: Ma-ris Ruskulis; xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? Xen and Windows is not production ready (PV drivers are still beta and in development). However the commerical varient Citrix XenServer is production ready. -- Randy www.FastServ.com ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Ma-ris Ruskulis <maris@chown.lv> To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:30:27 +0200 Subject: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production?> Hello! > I''m wondering about using windows 2003 for MSSQL replication. Is someone > using win server on xen in production? What is experience of using this? > Is it production ready? > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users------- End of Original Message ------- _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
We use the Citrix drivers on XenServer in production and the performance is very, very good. Equal CPU performance for single CPU, but much better than GPLPV for multi CPU. Network and disk performance is better than GPLPV in all cases. And most importantly, they never, ever crash. -- Randy www.FastServ.com ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Dustin Henning" <Dustin.Henning@prd-inc.com> To: "''Xen Users Mailing List''" <xen-users@lists.xensource.com> Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:13:59 -0500 Subject: RE: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production?> Xen.org HVM DomUs would probably be equally production-ready > barring Windows drivers, though, and on top of that I believe some > users do use GPLPV drivers in production in spite of best practice > concerns and downtime risk. I am not sure how great HVM domUs would > be for DB service in general, though. Without drivers it would > certainly be costly in terms of performance. With drivers, I > believe the GPLPV drivers perform better that the Citrix ones to > such an extent that some Citrix users have tried to use them (which > may or may not be possible but that would have to be verified in > this list''s archives). Dustin > > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users- > bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Randy McAnally Sent: > Friday, January 16, 2009 09:24 To: Ma-ris Ruskulis; xen-users@lists.xensource.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? > > Xen and Windows is not production ready (PV drivers are still beta > and in development). However the commerical varient Citrix > XenServer is production ready. > > -- > Randy > www.FastServ.com > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > From: Ma-ris Ruskulis <maris@chown.lv> > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:30:27 +0200 > Subject: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? > > > Hello! > > I''m wondering about using windows 2003 for MSSQL replication. Is someone > > using win server on xen in production? What is experience of using this? > > Is it production ready? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users------- End of Original Message ------- _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
I use GPLPV drivers on one of my production-level Server 2003 HVM DomUs. The domU is solid and performs very well. Running on SLES10 SP2 with Xen 3.2.0 and the GPLPV drivers. -Nick>>> "Randy McAnally" <rsm@fast-serv.com> 2009/01/17 07:16 >>>We use the Citrix drivers on XenServer in production and the performance is very, very good. Equal CPU performance for single CPU, but much better than GPLPV for multi CPU. Network and disk performance is better than GPLPV in all cases. And most importantly, they never, ever crash. -- Randy www.FastServ.com ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Dustin Henning" <Dustin.Henning@prd-inc.com> To: "''Xen Users Mailing List''" <xen-users@lists.xensource.com> Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:13:59 -0500 Subject: RE: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production?> Xen.org HVM DomUs would probably be equally production-ready > barring Windows drivers, though, and on top of that I believe some > users do use GPLPV drivers in production in spite of best practice > concerns and downtime risk. I am not sure how great HVM domUs would > be for DB service in general, though. Without drivers it would > certainly be costly in terms of performance. With drivers, I > believe the GPLPV drivers perform better that the Citrix ones to > such an extent that some Citrix users have tried to use them (which > may or may not be possible but that would have to be verified in > this list''s archives). Dustin > > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users- > bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Randy McAnally Sent: > Friday, January 16, 2009 09:24 To: Ma-ris Ruskulis; xen-users@lists.xensource.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? > > Xen and Windows is not production ready (PV drivers are still beta > and in development). However the commerical varient Citrix > XenServer is production ready. > > -- > Randy > www.FastServ.com > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > From: Ma-ris Ruskulis <maris@chown.lv> > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:30:27 +0200 > Subject: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? > > > Hello! > > I''m wondering about using windows 2003 for MSSQL replication. Is someone > > using win server on xen in production? What is experience of using this? > > Is it production ready? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users------- End of Original Message ------- This e-mail may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the intended recipient, please note that this message may contain SEAKR Engineering (SEAKR) Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you are strictly prohibited from downloading, photocopying, distributing or otherwise using this message, its contents or attachments in any way. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this e-mail and delete the message from your mailbox. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of SEAKR is neither endorsed by nor attributable to SEAKR. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
With Server 2003 we found 3.2.1 and 3.3.0 to be stable. Had crashes with Xen 3.0.3 though. The PV drivers can be used in production, my experiences are they crash or show problems within an hour or work perfectly so with GPLPV it really is just a case of testing before deploying (Seems to depend on application). Rob -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Dustin Henning Sent: 16 January 2009 15:14 To: ''Xen Users Mailing List'' Subject: RE: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? Xen.org HVM DomUs would probably be equally production-ready barring Windows drivers, though, and on top of that I believe some users do use GPLPV drivers in production in spite of best practice concerns and downtime risk. I am not sure how great HVM domUs would be for DB service in general, though. Without drivers it would certainly be costly in terms of performance. With drivers, I believe the GPLPV drivers perform better that the Citrix ones to such an extent that some Citrix users have tried to use them (which may or may not be possible but that would have to be verified in this list''s archives). Dustin -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Randy McAnally Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 09:24 To: Ma-ris Ruskulis; xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? Xen and Windows is not production ready (PV drivers are still beta and in development). However the commerical varient Citrix XenServer is production ready. -- Randy www.FastServ.com ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Ma-ris Ruskulis <maris@chown.lv> To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:30:27 +0200 Subject: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production?> Hello! > I''m wondering about using windows 2003 for MSSQL replication. Is someone > using win server on xen in production? What is experience of using this? > Is it production ready? > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users------- End of Original Message ------- _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users The SAQ Group Registered Office: 18 Chapel Street, Petersfield, Hampshire GU32 3DZ SAQ is the trading name of SEMTEC Limited. Registered in England & Wales Company Number: 06481952 http://www.saqnet.co.uk AS29219 SAQ Group Delivers high quality, honestly priced communication and I.T. services to UK Business. Broadband : Domains : Email : Hosting : CoLo : Servers : Racks : Transit : Backups : Managed Networks : Remote Support. ISPA Member Find us in http://www.thebestof.co.uk/petersfield _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro
2009-Jan-19 16:12 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production?
The GPL PV Beta drivers are more fast than the Citrix one... you do not need to pay to get a stable/usable Windows domU. I have 8 windows 2008/2003 servers running in *HVM* *Stubdomain*, without GPL PV drivers or any other, just windows defaults drivers. In the past, I have several performance problems with HVM Domain but now with Xen 3.3 stubdom, my Windows domU is much, much more fast! So I recomend you to use HVM stubdom of Xen 3.3.1 (compiled by you) with Linux 2.6.18.8-xen both from xen.org for all your Windows domUs. My dom0 is Ubuntu 8.04.2 with Xen 3.3.1 and Linux 2.6.18.8-xen. Do not use Ubuntu Xen packages, they are ugly. You can use Debian Lenny if you want... But always is better to compile Xen. It''s my opinion... - Thiago 2009/1/16 Randy McAnally <rsm@fast-serv.com>> Xen and Windows is not production ready (PV drivers are still beta and in > development). However the commerical varient Citrix XenServer is > production > ready. > > -- > Randy > www.FastServ.com > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > From: Ma-ris Ruskulis <maris@chown.lv> > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:30:27 +0200 > Subject: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? > > > Hello! > > I''m wondering about using windows 2003 for MSSQL replication. Is someone > > using win server on xen in production? What is experience of using this? > > Is it production ready? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Ma-ris Ruskulis
2009-Jan-22 11:01 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production?
Where can I get Citrix drivers for XEN? Randy McAnally wrote:> We use the Citrix drivers on XenServer in production and the performance is > very, very good. Equal CPU performance for single CPU, but much better than > GPLPV for multi CPU. Network and disk performance is better than GPLPV in > all cases. And most importantly, they never, ever crash. > > -- > Randy > www.FastServ.com > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > From: "Dustin Henning" <Dustin.Henning@prd-inc.com> > To: "''Xen Users Mailing List''" <xen-users@lists.xensource.com> > Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:13:59 -0500 > Subject: RE: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? > > >> Xen.org HVM DomUs would probably be equally production-ready >> barring Windows drivers, though, and on top of that I believe some >> users do use GPLPV drivers in production in spite of best practice >> concerns and downtime risk. I am not sure how great HVM domUs would >> be for DB service in general, though. Without drivers it would >> certainly be costly in terms of performance. With drivers, I >> believe the GPLPV drivers perform better that the Citrix ones to >> such an extent that some Citrix users have tried to use them (which >> may or may not be possible but that would have to be verified in >> this list''s archives). Dustin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users- >> bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Randy McAnally Sent: >> Friday, January 16, 2009 09:24 To: Ma-ris Ruskulis; xen- >> > users@lists.xensource.com > >> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? >> >> Xen and Windows is not production ready (PV drivers are still beta >> and in development). However the commerical varient Citrix >> XenServer is production ready. >> >> -- >> Randy >> www.FastServ.com >> >> ---------- Original Message ----------- >> From: Ma-ris Ruskulis <maris@chown.lv> >> To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com >> Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:30:27 +0200 >> Subject: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? >> >> >>> Hello! >>> I''m wondering about using windows 2003 for MSSQL replication. Is someone >>> using win server on xen in production? What is experience of using this? >>> Is it production ready? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xen-users mailing list >>> Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >>> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >>> >> ------- End of Original Message ------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-users mailing list >> Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-users mailing list >> Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >> > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
The Citrix drivers come with the various versions Citrix XenServer.
Moreover, they only work for said Citrix XenServer, not open source Xen.
There is a free version of the Citrix XenServer, but when I looked at it, it
only supported 1 (one) cpu/core (total), and no more than 4 domUs.
Dustin
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Subject: Re: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production?
Where can I get Citrix drivers for XEN?
Randy McAnally wrote:
We use the Citrix drivers on XenServer in production and the performance is
very, very good. Equal CPU performance for single CPU, but much better than
GPLPV for multi CPU. Network and disk performance is better than GPLPV in
all cases. And most importantly, they never, ever crash.
--
Randy
www.FastServ.com
---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Dustin Henning" <Dustin.Henning@prd-inc.com>
To: "''Xen Users Mailing List''"
<xen-users@lists.xensource.com>
Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:13:59 -0500
Subject: RE: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production?
Xen.org HVM DomUs would probably be equally production-ready
barring Windows drivers, though, and on top of that I believe some
users do use GPLPV drivers in production in spite of best practice
concerns and downtime risk. I am not sure how great HVM domUs would
be for DB service in general, though. Without drivers it would
certainly be costly in terms of performance. With drivers, I
believe the GPLPV drivers perform better that the Citrix ones to
such an extent that some Citrix users have tried to use them (which
may or may not be possible but that would have to be verified in
this list''s archives). Dustin
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bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Randy McAnally Sent:
Friday, January 16, 2009 09:24 To: Ma-ris Ruskulis; xen-
users@lists.xensource.com
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production?
Xen and Windows is not production ready (PV drivers are still beta
and in development). However the commerical varient Citrix
XenServer is production ready.
--
Randy
www.FastServ.com
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Hello!
I''m wondering about using windows 2003 for MSSQL replication. Is
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using win server on xen in production? What is experience of using this?
Is it production ready?
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Barry van Someren
2009-Jan-22 15:01 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production?
Hi, According to the manual the free version is no longer limited as of release 5.0 Regards, Barry On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Dustin Henning <Dustin.Henning@prd-inc.com> wrote:> The Citrix drivers come with the various versions Citrix XenServer. > Moreover, they only work for said Citrix XenServer, not open source Xen. > There is a free version of the Citrix XenServer, but when I looked at it, it > only supported 1 (one) cpu/core (total), and no more than 4 domUs. > Dustin > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Ma-ris Ruskulis > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 06:02 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? > > Where can I get Citrix drivers for XEN? > > Randy McAnally wrote: > We use the Citrix drivers on XenServer in production and the performance is > very, very good. Equal CPU performance for single CPU, but much better than > > GPLPV for multi CPU. Network and disk performance is better than GPLPV in > all cases. And most importantly, they never, ever crash. > > -- > Randy > www.FastServ.com > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > From: "Dustin Henning" <Dustin.Henning@prd-inc.com> > To: "''Xen Users Mailing List''" <xen-users@lists.xensource.com> > Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:13:59 -0500 > Subject: RE: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? > > > Xen.org HVM DomUs would probably be equally production-ready > barring Windows drivers, though, and on top of that I believe some > users do use GPLPV drivers in production in spite of best practice > concerns and downtime risk. I am not sure how great HVM domUs would > be for DB service in general, though. Without drivers it would > certainly be costly in terms of performance. With drivers, I > believe the GPLPV drivers perform better that the Citrix ones to > such an extent that some Citrix users have tried to use them (which > may or may not be possible but that would have to be verified in > this list''s archives). Dustin > > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users- > bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Randy McAnally Sent: > Friday, January 16, 2009 09:24 To: Ma-ris Ruskulis; xen- > > users@lists.xensource.com > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? > > Xen and Windows is not production ready (PV drivers are still beta > and in development). However the commerical varient Citrix > XenServer is production ready. > > -- > Randy > www.FastServ.com > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > From: Ma-ris Ruskulis <maris@chown.lv> > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:30:27 +0200 > Subject: [Xen-users] windows server on xen in production? > > > Hello! > I''m wondering about using windows 2003 for MSSQL replication. Is someone > using win server on xen in production? What is experience of using this? > Is it production ready? > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >-- Barry van Someren --------------------------------------- Email: barry@bvansomeren.com Email: goltharnl@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 16:01 +0100, Barry van Someren wrote:> Hi, > > According to the manual the free version is no longer limited as of release 5.0 > > Regards, > > BarryAnyone know what the limitations are? Just support? I''d personally be interested in looking at the free version if it was fully functional. I''m fairly happy with my current systems running on SLES10SP2, but I''ve seen some things with XenServer, such as importing VMWare vm''s, that I''d be interested in looking at. Thanks, James _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users