Peter Van Biesen
2008-Aug-18 13:05 UTC
[Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
Hi, I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the 2.6.18 xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a 32bit windows xp using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and disk io work. I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework. I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the 0.9.11pre11 and installed it. While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannot update driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of its own ''high'' standard ). After installation, I get several "new hardware" windows. I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpv drivers ). I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the device manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all have a exclamation mark on them. The only xen device working without problems is "xen pci device driver". All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free resources ( its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ). When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get een BSOD on Mup.sys. Here''s my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu stuff in the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ? ): ------------------------------------ kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader" builder=''hvm'' memory = 512 name = "windows2" disk = [ ''phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w'',''file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9FMQ3-FRVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r'',''file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r'', ] vif = [ ''bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01'', ] device_model = ''/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm'' boot=''cd'' sdl=0 vnc=1 vnclisten="0.0.0.0" vncunused=1 acpi=1 apic=0 pae=1 usb = 1 usbdevice = ''tablet'' #serial="pty" ---------------------------------- Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ? Thanks in advance, Peter. -- Peter Van Biesen Sysadmin VAPH tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Dustin Henning
2008-Aug-18 15:32 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
I don''t remember what version this applies to, but at one point, when installing, I was going through the "new hardware" windows and letting Windows install the drivers automatically. I had problems when I did this. After recovering to a pre GPLPV-installed environment, I ran the installer again and let it deal with these windows. They eventually disappeared without me even clicking next and then everything worked great. I tried this because that is how some Windows driver installers work (i.e. most mainboard RealTek sound drivers). However, this may not help you, as this may have been with an installer for a previous version that didn''t have the "the device is not plugged in, cannot update driver" error, which I believe was added to prevent confusion when upgrading from one version to another. Hopefully someone else can come back with more/better information, but in the meantime, odds are that you''ll need to get to a pre GPLPV-installed state (restore from backup) and try again, so if getting back to that state is easy and you want to try the install again before anyone else responds, just don''t interfere with the parts of the install that look like they need manual intervention for a while and see what happens. Good luck, Dustin -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Biesen Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 09:05 To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working Hi, I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the 2.6.18 xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a 32bit windows xp using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and disk io work. I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework. I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the 0.9.11pre11 and installed it. While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannot update driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of its own ''high'' standard ). After installation, I get several "new hardware" windows. I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpv drivers ). I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the device manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all have a exclamation mark on them. The only xen device working without problems is "xen pci device driver". All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free resources ( its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ). When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get een BSOD on Mup.sys. Here''s my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu stuff in the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ? ): ------------------------------------ kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader" builder=''hvm'' memory = 512 name = "windows2" disk = [ ''phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w'',''file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9FMQ3-F RVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r'',''file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r'', ] vif = [ ''bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01'', ] device_model ''/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm'' boot=''cd'' sdl=0 vnc=1 vnclisten="0.0.0.0" vncunused=1 acpi=1 apic=0 pae=1 usb = 1 usbdevice = ''tablet'' #serial="pty" ---------------------------------- Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ? Thanks in advance, Peter. -- Peter Van Biesen Sysadmin VAPH tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Peter Van Biesen
2008-Aug-19 08:47 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
Hi Dustin, reverting is a matter of seconds, as I am running my domU on a lvm snapshot volume. I tried installing again. When I got the new hardware windows, I did nothing, but they did nog go away. So I hit cancel on every one. In the device manager, the xen devices still had the exclamation mark. I then added the /gplpv line in the boot.ini and rebooted. This worked fine ! But windows still didn''t use the xen drivers ( no change in the counters in xm top ). The drivers still have the exclamation mark and every time I reboot I get all the "new hardware" windows again and again. I had installed the 0.9.10 drivers last week, this made windows hang, but the counters in xm top did go up. I removed all faulty drivers from the device manager and rebooted. When I then look at the devices, no drivers are installed. I then installed them one by one and get error : " Windows has loaded the driver in memory, but can''t find the device itself ( code 41 )" ( this is a translation from dutch ) Any suggestions ? Thanks in advance, Peter. On Monday 18 August 2008 17:32:37 Dustin Henning wrote:> I don''t remember what version this applies to, but at one point, > when installing, I was going through the "new hardware" windows and letting > Windows install the drivers automatically. I had problems when I did this. > After recovering to a pre GPLPV-installed environment, I ran the installer > again and let it deal with these windows. They eventually disappeared > without me even clicking next and then everything worked great. I tried > this because that is how some Windows driver installers work (i.e. most > mainboard RealTek sound drivers). However, this may not help you, as this > may have been with an installer for a previous version that didn''t have the > "the device is not plugged in, cannot update driver" error, which I believe > was added to prevent confusion when upgrading from one version to another. > Hopefully someone else can come back with more/better information, but in > the meantime, odds are that you''ll need to get to a pre GPLPV-installed > state (restore from backup) and try again, so if getting back to that state > is easy and you want to try the install again before anyone else responds, > just don''t interfere with the parts of the install that look like they need > manual intervention for a while and see what happens. Good luck, > Dustin > > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Biesen > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 09:05 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP > SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > Hi, > > I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the 2.6.18 > xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a 32bit windows xp > using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and disk io work. > > I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework. > > I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the 0.9.11pre11 and > installed it. > > While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannot update > driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows > complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of its own > ''high'' standard ). After installation, I get several "new hardware" windows. > I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpv drivers ). > > I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the device > manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all have a exclamation > mark on them. The only xen device working without problems is "xen pci > device driver". > > All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free resources ( > its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ). > > When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get een > BSOD on Mup.sys. > > Here''s my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu stuff in > the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ? ): > ------------------------------------ > kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader" > builder=''hvm'' > memory = 512 > name = "windows2" > disk = [ > ''phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w'',''file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9FMQ3-F > RVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r'',''file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r'', ] > vif = [ ''bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01'', ] device_model > ''/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm'' > > boot=''cd'' > sdl=0 > vnc=1 > vnclisten="0.0.0.0" > vncunused=1 > acpi=1 > apic=0 > pae=1 > usb = 1 > usbdevice = ''tablet'' > #serial="pty" > ---------------------------------- > > Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ? > > Thanks in advance, > > Peter. > -- > Peter Van Biesen > Sysadmin VAPH > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >-- Peter Van Biesen Sysadmin VAPH tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Dustin Henning
2008-Aug-19 12:50 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
Peter, OK, first and foremost, I think I forgot to mention this thread in my last response: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00428.html I bring it up now because I looked over your config again and noticed the two CD-ROM drives. It may be that you need to get rid of them as this may be a new problem with 0.9.11-pre11 (if you really need those images mounted in Windows, you might be able to use something like Elby Virtual Clone Drive [http://elby.ch/fun/software/index.html] to mount those images from within the domU, but I don''t know if this can be done automatically [might require manual remount after each reboot]). I haven''t even messed with 0.9.11-preX, I am running 0.9.10. Seeing as how you had problems with it, my only thought is that if the installer changed for 0.9.11-pre11 vs 0.9.10, you might revert again and try 0.9.10 to see if the add new hardware windows disappear on their own given a bit of time. I know I''ve had hanging like that in the past with previous versions, and it seems like in some cases waiting long enough would make it work (though not necessarily with the performance the drivers are supposed to provide) and in others I had to restore (or rebuild) Windows, and try again, as it used to (and may still) be absolutely crucial that the drivers are installed on a clean system, but I honestly don''t remember all the details here. Alternatively, since 0.9.10 caused your system to hang, you might try the suggestion mentioned here on 0.9.11-pre11 (even though the issue being resolved appears to be unrelated and has potentially been solved in pre11): http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00203.html I think the risk with doing that (disabling the xenhide.sys driver) is that if the system loads the qemu drivers and the gplpv drivers at the same time you will get massive HD corruption (should not be a big deal with a snapshot). However, for the record, I am shooting in the dark on all counts here (I haven''t suggested anything I wouldn''t try, but that doesn''t mean I haven''t suggested some things others wouldn''t recommend trying), so don''t get your hopes up. Unless removing the 0.9.10 drivers was done via a method other than reverting to a backup/snapshot (you said removing them via device manager and it has always taken more steps than that) or the drivers and their installation methods changed quite a bit between 0.9.10 and 0.9.11-pre11 (assuming you didn''t get the same error on 0.9.10), the error ending in "but can''t find the device itself" might ultimately have something to do with your environment (for instance, perhaps your version of Windows is different or there is an issue with your version of debian). I think James usually spends more time dealing with his drivers and the list on weekends, so it might be a few days or a couple weeks before you hear much from him, but unless you luck out somehow, that''s probably what it will take. Finally, as an aside, regarding your thread on the performance of the GPLPV drivers, it surprises me that your users haven''t complained about performance with qemu drivers, they must be easy to please. The difference is most certainly noticeable and worth the trouble. Dustin -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Biesen Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 04:47 To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working Hi Dustin, reverting is a matter of seconds, as I am running my domU on a lvm snapshot volume. I tried installing again. When I got the new hardware windows, I did nothing, but they did nog go away. So I hit cancel on every one. In the device manager, the xen devices still had the exclamation mark. I then added the /gplpv line in the boot.ini and rebooted. This worked fine ! But windows still didn''t use the xen drivers ( no change in the counters in xm top ). The drivers still have the exclamation mark and every time I reboot I get all the "new hardware" windows again and again. I had installed the 0.9.10 drivers last week, this made windows hang, but the counters in xm top did go up. I removed all faulty drivers from the device manager and rebooted. When I then look at the devices, no drivers are installed. I then installed them one by one and get error : " Windows has loaded the driver in memory, but can''t find the device itself ( code 41 )" ( this is a translation from dutch ) Any suggestions ? Thanks in advance, Peter. On Monday 18 August 2008 17:32:37 Dustin Henning wrote:> I don''t remember what version this applies to, but at one point,when> installing, I was going through the "new hardware" windows and letting > Windows install the drivers automatically. I had problems when I didthis.> After recovering to a pre GPLPV-installed environment, I ran the > installer again and let it deal with these windows. They eventually > disappeared without me even clicking next and then everything worked > great. I tried this because that is how some Windows driver > installers work (i.e. most mainboard RealTek sound drivers). However, > this may not help you, as this may have been with an installer for a > previous version that didn''t have the "the device is not plugged in, > cannot update driver" error, which I believe was added to preventconfusion when upgrading from one version to another.> Hopefully someone else can come back with more/better information, but > in the meantime, odds are that you''ll need to get to a pre > GPLPV-installed state (restore from backup) and try again, so if > getting back to that state is easy and you want to try the install > again before anyone else responds, just don''t interfere with the parts > of the install that look like they need manual intervention for a whileand see what happens. Good luck,> Dustin > > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > Biesen > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 09:05 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > Windows XP > SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > Hi, > > I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the > 2.6.18 xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a 32bit > windows xp using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and disk iowork.> > I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework. > > I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the > 0.9.11pre11 and installed it. > > While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannot update > driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows > complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of > its own ''high'' standard ). After installation, I get several "newhardware" windows.> I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpv drivers ). > > I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the > device manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all have a > exclamation mark on them. The only xen device working without problems > is "xen pci device driver". > > All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free > resources ( its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ). > > When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get > een BSOD on Mup.sys. > > Here''s my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu > stuff in the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ? ): > ------------------------------------ > kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader" > builder=''hvm'' > memory = 512 > name = "windows2" > disk = [ > ''phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w'',''file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9 > FMQ3-F > RVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r'',''file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r'' > , ] vif = [ ''bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01'', ] device_model = > ''/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm'' > > boot=''cd'' > sdl=0 > vnc=1 > vnclisten="0.0.0.0" > vncunused=1 > acpi=1 > apic=0 > pae=1 > usb = 1 > usbdevice = ''tablet'' > #serial="pty" > ---------------------------------- > > Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ? > > Thanks in advance, > > Peter. > -- > Peter Van Biesen > Sysadmin VAPH > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >-- Peter Van Biesen Sysadmin VAPH tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Peter Van Biesen
2008-Aug-20 09:44 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
Hi Dustin, I found this thread too and I tried without the cdrom devices already. This makes no difference. I reverted and installed the 0.9.10. I only get "the device was not plugged in" error twice now. The devices still have an exclamation mark in the device manager but the "add new hardware" dialog does disappear after a while. After reboot, windows seems to hang on the splash screen. I then disabled usb ( this is sometimes an issue when hanging on mup.sys ), and now the screen goes black and the domu uses 100% CPU. At the third reboot, I select safe mode and behold - windows boots. When looking in the device manager, only the xen vbd driver had an exclamation mark. The network drivers seems to work ( I had now some 10 network devices ). I disabled the vdb driver and rebooted. Again a hang on a black screen. So, basically, after installation of the driver, the only way to get windows back online is to 1) disable usb 2) boot in safe mode Maybe I should completely reinstall windows xp ? Concerning performance : I pick my users carefully. First migrate users who only use mail, browser and occasionally office. They do not need much diskperformance, in fact, they do not even know if an application is running on their pc or on the network ( browser ). Once you have a userbase that is satisfied with the performance, migrate a somewhat heavier user. If he complains, you can tell him : look, there are 10 users happy why you''re not ? This buys you some time to figure the problem out en gets the user off your back. This is where I''m now. Never ever start with power users !! It is my experience that most of the userbase don''t care where or how their OS is running - even 3/4 of our developers don''t care, as long as the performance is ok. For the 1/4 developers who do care, don''t bitch and just give them a standalone machine. It is really a win-win situation with xen, we have the control over the hardware while they have control over their windows game console ... er OS *cough* :-) . But definitely need the gplpv drivers to work if I am to migrate most of my users. Anyway, thanks for the advise. Peter. On Tuesday 19 August 2008 14:50:19 Dustin Henning wrote:> Peter, > OK, first and foremost, I think I forgot to mention this thread in > my last response: > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00428.html > I bring it up now because I looked over your config again and noticed the > two CD-ROM drives. It may be that you need to get rid of them as this may > be a new problem with 0.9.11-pre11 (if you really need those images mounted > in Windows, you might be able to use something like Elby Virtual Clone Drive > [http://elby.ch/fun/software/index.html] to mount those images from within > the domU, but I don''t know if this can be done automatically [might require > manual remount after each reboot]). > I haven''t even messed with 0.9.11-preX, I am running 0.9.10. Seeing > as how you had problems with it, my only thought is that if the installer > changed for 0.9.11-pre11 vs 0.9.10, you might revert again and try 0.9.10 to > see if the add new hardware windows disappear on their own given a bit of > time. I know I''ve had hanging like that in the past with previous versions, > and it seems like in some cases waiting long enough would make it work > (though not necessarily with the performance the drivers are supposed to > provide) and in others I had to restore (or rebuild) Windows, and try again, > as it used to (and may still) be absolutely crucial that the drivers are > installed on a clean system, but I honestly don''t remember all the details > here. Alternatively, since 0.9.10 caused your system to hang, you might try > the suggestion mentioned here on 0.9.11-pre11 (even though the issue being > resolved appears to be unrelated and has potentially been solved in pre11): > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00203.html > I think the risk with doing that (disabling the xenhide.sys driver) > is that if the system loads the qemu drivers and the gplpv drivers at the > same time you will get massive HD corruption (should not be a big deal with > a snapshot). However, for the record, I am shooting in the dark on all > counts here (I haven''t suggested anything I wouldn''t try, but that doesn''t > mean I haven''t suggested some things others wouldn''t recommend trying), so > don''t get your hopes up. Unless removing the 0.9.10 drivers was done via a > method other than reverting to a backup/snapshot (you said removing them via > device manager and it has always taken more steps than that) or the drivers > and their installation methods changed quite a bit between 0.9.10 and > 0.9.11-pre11 (assuming you didn''t get the same error on 0.9.10), the error > ending in "but can''t find the device itself" might ultimately have something > to do with your environment (for instance, perhaps your version of Windows > is different or there is an issue with your version of debian). I think > James usually spends more time dealing with his drivers and the list on > weekends, so it might be a few days or a couple weeks before you hear much > from him, but unless you luck out somehow, that''s probably what it will > take. > Finally, as an aside, regarding your thread on the performance of > the GPLPV drivers, it surprises me that your users haven''t complained about > performance with qemu drivers, they must be easy to please. The difference > is most certainly noticeable and worth the trouble. > Dustin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Biesen > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 04:47 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > Hi Dustin, > > reverting is a matter of seconds, as I am running my domU on a lvm snapshot > volume. > > I tried installing again. When I got the new hardware windows, I did > nothing, but they did nog go away. So I hit cancel on every one. > > In the device manager, the xen devices still had the exclamation mark. > > I then added the /gplpv line in the boot.ini and rebooted. This worked fine > ! But windows still didn''t use the xen drivers ( no change in the counters > in xm top ). The drivers still have the exclamation mark and every time I > reboot I get all the "new hardware" windows again and again. > > I had installed the 0.9.10 drivers last week, this made windows hang, but > the counters in xm top did go up. > > I removed all faulty drivers from the device manager and rebooted. When I > then look at the devices, no drivers are installed. I then installed them > one by one and get error : > > " Windows has loaded the driver in memory, but can''t find the device itself > ( code 41 )" ( this is a translation from dutch ) > > Any suggestions ? > > Thanks in advance, > > Peter. > > On Monday 18 August 2008 17:32:37 Dustin Henning wrote: > > I don''t remember what version this applies to, but at one point, > when > > installing, I was going through the "new hardware" windows and letting > > Windows install the drivers automatically. I had problems when I did > this. > > After recovering to a pre GPLPV-installed environment, I ran the > > installer again and let it deal with these windows. They eventually > > disappeared without me even clicking next and then everything worked > > great. I tried this because that is how some Windows driver > > installers work (i.e. most mainboard RealTek sound drivers). However, > > this may not help you, as this may have been with an installer for a > > previous version that didn''t have the "the device is not plugged in, > > cannot update driver" error, which I believe was added to prevent > confusion when upgrading from one version to another. > > Hopefully someone else can come back with more/better information, but > > in the meantime, odds are that you''ll need to get to a pre > > GPLPV-installed state (restore from backup) and try again, so if > > getting back to that state is easy and you want to try the install > > again before anyone else responds, just don''t interfere with the parts > > of the install that look like they need manual intervention for a while > and see what happens. Good luck, > > Dustin > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > Biesen > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 09:05 > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > Windows XP > > SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > Hi, > > > > I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the > > 2.6.18 xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a 32bit > > windows xp using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and disk io > work. > > > > I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework. > > > > I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the > > 0.9.11pre11 and installed it. > > > > While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannot update > > driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows > > complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of > > its own ''high'' standard ). After installation, I get several "new > hardware" windows. > > I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpv drivers ). > > > > I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the > > device manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all have a > > exclamation mark on them. The only xen device working without problems > > is "xen pci device driver". > > > > All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free > > resources ( its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ). > > > > When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get > > een BSOD on Mup.sys. > > > > Here''s my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu > > stuff in the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ? ): > > ------------------------------------ > > kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader" > > builder=''hvm'' > > memory = 512 > > name = "windows2" > > disk = [ > > ''phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w'',''file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9 > > FMQ3-F > > RVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r'',''file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r'' > > , ] vif = [ ''bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01'', ] device_model = > > ''/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm'' > > > > boot=''cd'' > > sdl=0 > > vnc=1 > > vnclisten="0.0.0.0" > > vncunused=1 > > acpi=1 > > apic=0 > > pae=1 > > usb = 1 > > usbdevice = ''tablet'' > > #serial="pty" > > ---------------------------------- > > > > Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Peter. > > -- > > Peter Van Biesen > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > -- > Peter Van Biesen > Sysadmin VAPH > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >-- Peter Van Biesen Sysadmin VAPH tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys Opgelet ! 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Dustin Henning
2008-Aug-20 12:48 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
Peter, I would most definitely try rebuilding if you have the time. It is possible that following the cleanup steps from the wiki might work, but I never had much luck with them. After a rebuild, I would set up a snapshot, try 0.9.10 again, and wait for the add new hardware windows to disappear (I don''t know if this should happen in 0.9.11-preX as well or not), hopefully at this point, all of the drivers work. The xenvbd driver is the disk driver, so if it isn''t working right, it''s no wonder the system locks up and goes to 100% CPU, xenhide is preventing Windows from seeing the qemu disk(s), and the driver for the xen ones (xenvbd) isn''t working. If the same problem were encountered, I would drop changes from the snapshot, try the new 0.9.11-pre12, and respond to the thread about it with any problems and a brief history of your experience thus far (dutch Windows, version of Debian, version of Xen, versions of GPLPV tried, issues encountered). He may have some more insight on Debian, or he may be able to gather additional information to potentially test or fix your problem if it is related to the Dutch version [I am assuming it is a fully different version, but truthfully I don''t know whether it''s the same version with a language pack or a different version, and neither would surprise me]). Good luck, Dustin -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Biesen Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 05:45 To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working Hi Dustin, I found this thread too and I tried without the cdrom devices already. This makes no difference. I reverted and installed the 0.9.10. I only get "the device was not plugged in" error twice now. The devices still have an exclamation mark in the device manager but the "add new hardware" dialog does disappear after a while. After reboot, windows seems to hang on the splash screen. I then disabled usb ( this is sometimes an issue when hanging on mup.sys ), and now the screen goes black and the domu uses 100% CPU. At the third reboot, I select safe mode and behold - windows boots. When looking in the device manager, only the xen vbd driver had an exclamation mark. The network drivers seems to work ( I had now some 10 network devices ). I disabled the vdb driver and rebooted. Again a hang on a black screen. So, basically, after installation of the driver, the only way to get windows back online is to 1) disable usb 2) boot in safe mode Maybe I should completely reinstall windows xp ? Concerning performance : I pick my users carefully. First migrate users who only use mail, browser and occasionally office. They do not need much diskperformance, in fact, they do not even know if an application is running on their pc or on the network ( browser ). Once you have a userbase that is satisfied with the performance, migrate a somewhat heavier user. If he complains, you can tell him : look, there are 10 users happy why you''re not ? This buys you some time to figure the problem out en gets the user off your back. This is where I''m now. Never ever start with power users !! It is my experience that most of the userbase don''t care where or how their OS is running - even 3/4 of our developers don''t care, as long as the performance is ok. For the 1/4 developers who do care, don''t bitch and just give them a standalone machine. It is really a win-win situation with xen, we have the control over the hardware while they have control over their windows game console ... er OS *cough* :-) . But definitely need the gplpv drivers to work if I am to migrate most of my users. Anyway, thanks for the advise. Peter. On Tuesday 19 August 2008 14:50:19 Dustin Henning wrote:> Peter, > OK, first and foremost, I think I forgot to mention this thread in > my last response: > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00428.html > I bring it up now because I looked over your config again and noticed the > two CD-ROM drives. It may be that you need to get rid of them as this may > be a new problem with 0.9.11-pre11 (if you really need those imagesmounted> in Windows, you might be able to use something like Elby Virtual CloneDrive> [http://elby.ch/fun/software/index.html] to mount those images from within > the domU, but I don''t know if this can be done automatically [mightrequire> manual remount after each reboot]). > I haven''t even messed with 0.9.11-preX, I am running 0.9.10. Seeing > as how you had problems with it, my only thought is that if the installer > changed for 0.9.11-pre11 vs 0.9.10, you might revert again and try 0.9.10to> see if the add new hardware windows disappear on their own given a bit of > time. I know I''ve had hanging like that in the past with previousversions,> and it seems like in some cases waiting long enough would make it work > (though not necessarily with the performance the drivers are supposed to > provide) and in others I had to restore (or rebuild) Windows, and tryagain,> as it used to (and may still) be absolutely crucial that the drivers are > installed on a clean system, but I honestly don''t remember all the details > here. Alternatively, since 0.9.10 caused your system to hang, you mighttry> the suggestion mentioned here on 0.9.11-pre11 (even though the issue being > resolved appears to be unrelated and has potentially been solved inpre11):> http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00203.html > I think the risk with doing that (disabling the xenhide.sys driver) > is that if the system loads the qemu drivers and the gplpv drivers at the > same time you will get massive HD corruption (should not be a big dealwith> a snapshot). However, for the record, I am shooting in the dark on all > counts here (I haven''t suggested anything I wouldn''t try, but that doesn''t > mean I haven''t suggested some things others wouldn''t recommend trying), so > don''t get your hopes up. Unless removing the 0.9.10 drivers was done viaa> method other than reverting to a backup/snapshot (you said removing themvia> device manager and it has always taken more steps than that) or thedrivers> and their installation methods changed quite a bit between 0.9.10 and > 0.9.11-pre11 (assuming you didn''t get the same error on 0.9.10), the error > ending in "but can''t find the device itself" might ultimately havesomething> to do with your environment (for instance, perhaps your version of Windows > is different or there is an issue with your version of debian). I think > James usually spends more time dealing with his drivers and the list on > weekends, so it might be a few days or a couple weeks before you hear much > from him, but unless you luck out somehow, that''s probably what it will > take. > Finally, as an aside, regarding your thread on the performance of > the GPLPV drivers, it surprises me that your users haven''t complainedabout> performance with qemu drivers, they must be easy to please. Thedifference> is most certainly noticeable and worth the trouble. > Dustin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter VanBiesen> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 04:47 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > Hi Dustin, > > reverting is a matter of seconds, as I am running my domU on a lvmsnapshot> volume. > > I tried installing again. When I got the new hardware windows, I did > nothing, but they did nog go away. So I hit cancel on every one. > > In the device manager, the xen devices still had the exclamation mark. > > I then added the /gplpv line in the boot.ini and rebooted. This workedfine> ! But windows still didn''t use the xen drivers ( no change in the counters > in xm top ). The drivers still have the exclamation mark and every time I > reboot I get all the "new hardware" windows again and again. > > I had installed the 0.9.10 drivers last week, this made windows hang, but > the counters in xm top did go up. > > I removed all faulty drivers from the device manager and rebooted. When I > then look at the devices, no drivers are installed. I then installed them > one by one and get error : > > " Windows has loaded the driver in memory, but can''t find the deviceitself> ( code 41 )" ( this is a translation from dutch ) > > Any suggestions ? > > Thanks in advance, > > Peter. > > On Monday 18 August 2008 17:32:37 Dustin Henning wrote: > > I don''t remember what version this applies to, but at one point, > when > > installing, I was going through the "new hardware" windows and letting > > Windows install the drivers automatically. I had problems when I did > this. > > After recovering to a pre GPLPV-installed environment, I ran the > > installer again and let it deal with these windows. They eventually > > disappeared without me even clicking next and then everything worked > > great. I tried this because that is how some Windows driver > > installers work (i.e. most mainboard RealTek sound drivers). However, > > this may not help you, as this may have been with an installer for a > > previous version that didn''t have the "the device is not plugged in, > > cannot update driver" error, which I believe was added to prevent > confusion when upgrading from one version to another. > > Hopefully someone else can come back with more/better information, but > > in the meantime, odds are that you''ll need to get to a pre > > GPLPV-installed state (restore from backup) and try again, so if > > getting back to that state is easy and you want to try the install > > again before anyone else responds, just don''t interfere with the parts > > of the install that look like they need manual intervention for a while > and see what happens. Good luck, > > Dustin > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > Biesen > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 09:05 > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > Windows XP > > SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > Hi, > > > > I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the > > 2.6.18 xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a 32bit > > windows xp using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and disk io > work. > > > > I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework. > > > > I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the > > 0.9.11pre11 and installed it. > > > > While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannot update > > driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows > > complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of > > its own ''high'' standard ). After installation, I get several "new > hardware" windows. > > I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpv drivers).> > > > I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the > > device manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all have a > > exclamation mark on them. The only xen device working without problems > > is "xen pci device driver". > > > > All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free > > resources ( its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ). > > > > When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get > > een BSOD on Mup.sys. > > > > Here''s my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu > > stuff in the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ? ): > > ------------------------------------ > > kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader" > > builder=''hvm'' > > memory = 512 > > name = "windows2" > > disk = [ > > ''phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w'',''file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9 > > FMQ3-F > > RVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r'',''file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r'' > > , ] vif = [ ''bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01'', ] device_model = > > ''/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm'' > > > > boot=''cd'' > > sdl=0 > > vnc=1 > > vnclisten="0.0.0.0" > > vncunused=1 > > acpi=1 > > apic=0 > > pae=1 > > usb = 1 > > usbdevice = ''tablet'' > > #serial="pty" > > ---------------------------------- > > > > Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Peter. > > -- > > Peter Van Biesen > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > -- > Peter Van Biesen > Sysadmin VAPH > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >-- Peter Van Biesen Sysadmin VAPH tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys Opgelet ! 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Peter Van Biesen
2008-Aug-22 11:27 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
Hi Dustin, an update : - I reinstalled windows XP - added SP1a an SP2 ( this is necessary for .net 2.0 ) On a snapshot, I installed 0.9.11pre12. All drivers have an exclamation mark. I reverted to SP2 and installed 0.9.10. Windows hangs on the splash screen. The only thing I can conclude is that the gplpv drivers do not work with my specific version of windows xp. Is it because it is a dutch version ? A specific build ? Is this possible ( I''m a complete windows novice ) ? Kindest regards, Peter. On Wednesday 20 August 2008 14:48:10 Dustin Henning wrote:> Peter, > I would most definitely try rebuilding if you have the time. It is > possible that following the cleanup steps from the wiki might work, but I > never had much luck with them. After a rebuild, I would set up a snapshot, > try 0.9.10 again, and wait for the add new hardware windows to disappear (I > don''t know if this should happen in 0.9.11-preX as well or not), hopefully > at this point, all of the drivers work. The xenvbd driver is the disk > driver, so if it isn''t working right, it''s no wonder the system locks up and > goes to 100% CPU, xenhide is preventing Windows from seeing the qemu > disk(s), and the driver for the xen ones (xenvbd) isn''t working. If the > same problem were encountered, I would drop changes from the snapshot, try > the new 0.9.11-pre12, and respond to the thread about it with any problems > and a brief history of your experience thus far (dutch Windows, version of > Debian, version of Xen, versions of GPLPV tried, issues encountered). He > may have some more insight on Debian, or he may be able to gather additional > information to potentially test or fix your problem if it is related to the > Dutch version [I am assuming it is a fully different version, but truthfully > I don''t know whether it''s the same version with a language pack or a > different version, and neither would surprise me]). Good luck, > Dustin > > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Biesen > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 05:45 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > Hi Dustin, > > I found this thread too and I tried without the cdrom devices already. This > makes no difference. > > I reverted and installed the 0.9.10. I only get "the device was not plugged > in" error twice now. The devices still have an exclamation mark in the > device manager but the "add new hardware" dialog does disappear after a > while. After reboot, windows seems to hang on the splash screen. I then > disabled usb ( this is sometimes an issue when hanging on mup.sys ), and now > the screen goes black and the domu uses 100% CPU. At the third reboot, I > select safe mode and behold - windows boots. > > When looking in the device manager, only the xen vbd driver had an > exclamation mark. The network drivers seems to work ( I had now some 10 > network devices ). I disabled the vdb driver and rebooted. Again a hang on a > black screen. > > So, basically, after installation of the driver, the only way to get windows > back online is to > 1) disable usb > 2) boot in safe mode > > Maybe I should completely reinstall windows xp ? > > Concerning performance : I pick my users carefully. First migrate users who > only use mail, browser and occasionally office. They do not need much > diskperformance, in fact, they do not even know if an application is running > on their pc or on the network ( browser ). Once you have a userbase that is > satisfied with the performance, migrate a somewhat heavier user. If he > complains, you can tell him : look, there are 10 users happy why you''re not > ? This buys you some time to figure the problem out en gets the user off > your back. This is where I''m now. > > Never ever start with power users !! It is my experience that most of the > userbase don''t care where or how their OS is running - even 3/4 of our > developers don''t care, as long as the performance is ok. For the 1/4 > developers who do care, don''t bitch and just give them a standalone machine. > It is really a win-win situation with xen, we have the control over the > hardware while they have control over their windows game console ... er OS > *cough* :-) . > > But definitely need the gplpv drivers to work if I am to migrate most of my > users. > > Anyway, thanks for the advise. > > Peter. > > On Tuesday 19 August 2008 14:50:19 Dustin Henning wrote: > > Peter, > > OK, first and foremost, I think I forgot to mention this thread in > > my last response: > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00428.html > > I bring it up now because I looked over your config again and noticed the > > two CD-ROM drives. It may be that you need to get rid of them as this may > > be a new problem with 0.9.11-pre11 (if you really need those images > mounted > > in Windows, you might be able to use something like Elby Virtual Clone > Drive > > [http://elby.ch/fun/software/index.html] to mount those images from within > > the domU, but I don''t know if this can be done automatically [might > require > > manual remount after each reboot]). > > I haven''t even messed with 0.9.11-preX, I am running 0.9.10. Seeing > > as how you had problems with it, my only thought is that if the installer > > changed for 0.9.11-pre11 vs 0.9.10, you might revert again and try 0.9.10 > to > > see if the add new hardware windows disappear on their own given a bit of > > time. I know I''ve had hanging like that in the past with previous > versions, > > and it seems like in some cases waiting long enough would make it work > > (though not necessarily with the performance the drivers are supposed to > > provide) and in others I had to restore (or rebuild) Windows, and try > again, > > as it used to (and may still) be absolutely crucial that the drivers are > > installed on a clean system, but I honestly don''t remember all the details > > here. Alternatively, since 0.9.10 caused your system to hang, you might > try > > the suggestion mentioned here on 0.9.11-pre11 (even though the issue being > > resolved appears to be unrelated and has potentially been solved in > pre11): > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00203.html > > I think the risk with doing that (disabling the xenhide.sys driver) > > is that if the system loads the qemu drivers and the gplpv drivers at the > > same time you will get massive HD corruption (should not be a big deal > with > > a snapshot). However, for the record, I am shooting in the dark on all > > counts here (I haven''t suggested anything I wouldn''t try, but that doesn''t > > mean I haven''t suggested some things others wouldn''t recommend trying), so > > don''t get your hopes up. Unless removing the 0.9.10 drivers was done via > a > > method other than reverting to a backup/snapshot (you said removing them > via > > device manager and it has always taken more steps than that) or the > drivers > > and their installation methods changed quite a bit between 0.9.10 and > > 0.9.11-pre11 (assuming you didn''t get the same error on 0.9.10), the error > > ending in "but can''t find the device itself" might ultimately have > something > > to do with your environment (for instance, perhaps your version of Windows > > is different or there is an issue with your version of debian). I think > > James usually spends more time dealing with his drivers and the list on > > weekends, so it might be a few days or a couple weeks before you hear much > > from him, but unless you luck out somehow, that''s probably what it will > > take. > > Finally, as an aside, regarding your thread on the performance of > > the GPLPV drivers, it surprises me that your users haven''t complained > about > > performance with qemu drivers, they must be easy to please. The > difference > > is most certainly noticeable and worth the trouble. > > Dustin > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > Biesen > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 04:47 > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > reverting is a matter of seconds, as I am running my domU on a lvm > snapshot > > volume. > > > > I tried installing again. When I got the new hardware windows, I did > > nothing, but they did nog go away. So I hit cancel on every one. > > > > In the device manager, the xen devices still had the exclamation mark. > > > > I then added the /gplpv line in the boot.ini and rebooted. This worked > fine > > ! But windows still didn''t use the xen drivers ( no change in the counters > > in xm top ). The drivers still have the exclamation mark and every time I > > reboot I get all the "new hardware" windows again and again. > > > > I had installed the 0.9.10 drivers last week, this made windows hang, but > > the counters in xm top did go up. > > > > I removed all faulty drivers from the device manager and rebooted. When I > > then look at the devices, no drivers are installed. I then installed them > > one by one and get error : > > > > " Windows has loaded the driver in memory, but can''t find the device > itself > > ( code 41 )" ( this is a translation from dutch ) > > > > Any suggestions ? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Peter. > > > > On Monday 18 August 2008 17:32:37 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > I don''t remember what version this applies to, but at one point, > > when > > > installing, I was going through the "new hardware" windows and letting > > > Windows install the drivers automatically. I had problems when I did > > this. > > > After recovering to a pre GPLPV-installed environment, I ran the > > > installer again and let it deal with these windows. They eventually > > > disappeared without me even clicking next and then everything worked > > > great. I tried this because that is how some Windows driver > > > installers work (i.e. most mainboard RealTek sound drivers). However, > > > this may not help you, as this may have been with an installer for a > > > previous version that didn''t have the "the device is not plugged in, > > > cannot update driver" error, which I believe was added to prevent > > confusion when upgrading from one version to another. > > > Hopefully someone else can come back with more/better information, but > > > in the meantime, odds are that you''ll need to get to a pre > > > GPLPV-installed state (restore from backup) and try again, so if > > > getting back to that state is easy and you want to try the install > > > again before anyone else responds, just don''t interfere with the parts > > > of the install that look like they need manual intervention for a while > > and see what happens. Good luck, > > > Dustin > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > > Biesen > > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 09:05 > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > Windows XP > > > SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the > > > 2.6.18 xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a 32bit > > > windows xp using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and disk io > > work. > > > > > > I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework. > > > > > > I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the > > > 0.9.11pre11 and installed it. > > > > > > While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannot update > > > driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows > > > complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of > > > its own ''high'' standard ). After installation, I get several "new > > hardware" windows. > > > I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpv drivers > ). > > > > > > I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the > > > device manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all have a > > > exclamation mark on them. The only xen device working without problems > > > is "xen pci device driver". > > > > > > All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free > > > resources ( its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ). > > > > > > When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get > > > een BSOD on Mup.sys. > > > > > > Here''s my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu > > > stuff in the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ? ): > > > ------------------------------------ > > > kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader" > > > builder=''hvm'' > > > memory = 512 > > > name = "windows2" > > > disk = [ > > > ''phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w'',''file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9 > > > FMQ3-F > > > RVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r'',''file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r'' > > > , ] vif = [ ''bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01'', ] device_model = > > > ''/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm'' > > > > > > boot=''cd'' > > > sdl=0 > > > vnc=1 > > > vnclisten="0.0.0.0" > > > vncunused=1 > > > acpi=1 > > > apic=0 > > > pae=1 > > > usb = 1 > > > usbdevice = ''tablet'' > > > #serial="pty" > > > ---------------------------------- > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Peter. > > > -- > > > Peter Van Biesen > > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Peter Van Biesen > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > >-- Peter Van Biesen Sysadmin VAPH tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys Opgelet ! 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Dustin Henning
2008-Aug-22 15:38 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
Peter, Regarding installing SP1a and SP2, it may be possible to go directly to SP2 (unless you are referring to.net 2.0 service packs and not WinXP service packs), but I don''t remember for sure, and this wouldn''t affect your problem, it''s just a thought for future reference. It is possible that the drivers don''t work with your version of Windows, and that seems more likely than them not working with host setup, but I don''t know enough about either to say so definitively. It seems to me like WinXP would work and be built the same for Dutch and English, as I would think it would only be drastically different for extended languages (like Chinese) and countries that have US export restrictions on encryption or something, but I really don''t know. I can also tell you that I tried several versions (either I started at 0.8.9, or 0.8.9 was the first version that worked at all in my environment, so I deleted all previous ones) before it worked for me. During that time, other people were using the drivers successfully, so when 0.9.11 is no longer pre, and when 0.9.12 et all come out, I would try again. That said, perhaps James can work with you on getting an existing version to work, as determining what is causing your problem may help in resolving other issues as well. Dustin -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Biesen Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 07:27 To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working Hi Dustin, an update : - I reinstalled windows XP - added SP1a an SP2 ( this is necessary for .net 2.0 ) On a snapshot, I installed 0.9.11pre12. All drivers have an exclamation mark. I reverted to SP2 and installed 0.9.10. Windows hangs on the splash screen. The only thing I can conclude is that the gplpv drivers do not work with my specific version of windows xp. Is it because it is a dutch version ? A specific build ? Is this possible ( I''m a complete windows novice ) ? Kindest regards, Peter. On Wednesday 20 August 2008 14:48:10 Dustin Henning wrote:> Peter, > I would most definitely try rebuilding if you have the time. It is > possible that following the cleanup steps from the wiki might work, but I > never had much luck with them. After a rebuild, I would set up asnapshot,> try 0.9.10 again, and wait for the add new hardware windows to disappear(I> don''t know if this should happen in 0.9.11-preX as well or not), hopefully > at this point, all of the drivers work. The xenvbd driver is the disk > driver, so if it isn''t working right, it''s no wonder the system locks upand> goes to 100% CPU, xenhide is preventing Windows from seeing the qemu > disk(s), and the driver for the xen ones (xenvbd) isn''t working. If the > same problem were encountered, I would drop changes from the snapshot, try > the new 0.9.11-pre12, and respond to the thread about it with any problems > and a brief history of your experience thus far (dutch Windows, version of > Debian, version of Xen, versions of GPLPV tried, issues encountered). He > may have some more insight on Debian, or he may be able to gatheradditional> information to potentially test or fix your problem if it is related tothe> Dutch version [I am assuming it is a fully different version, buttruthfully> I don''t know whether it''s the same version with a language pack or a > different version, and neither would surprise me]). Good luck, > Dustin > > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter VanBiesen> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 05:45 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > Hi Dustin, > > I found this thread too and I tried without the cdrom devices already.This> makes no difference. > > I reverted and installed the 0.9.10. I only get "the device was notplugged> in" error twice now. The devices still have an exclamation mark in the > device manager but the "add new hardware" dialog does disappear after a > while. After reboot, windows seems to hang on the splash screen. I then > disabled usb ( this is sometimes an issue when hanging on mup.sys ), andnow> the screen goes black and the domu uses 100% CPU. At the third reboot, I > select safe mode and behold - windows boots. > > When looking in the device manager, only the xen vbd driver had an > exclamation mark. The network drivers seems to work ( I had now some 10 > network devices ). I disabled the vdb driver and rebooted. Again a hang ona> black screen. > > So, basically, after installation of the driver, the only way to getwindows> back online is to > 1) disable usb > 2) boot in safe mode > > Maybe I should completely reinstall windows xp ? > > Concerning performance : I pick my users carefully. First migrate userswho> only use mail, browser and occasionally office. They do not need much > diskperformance, in fact, they do not even know if an application isrunning> on their pc or on the network ( browser ). Once you have a userbase thatis> satisfied with the performance, migrate a somewhat heavier user. If he > complains, you can tell him : look, there are 10 users happy why you''renot> ? This buys you some time to figure the problem out en gets the user off > your back. This is where I''m now. > > Never ever start with power users !! It is my experience that most of the > userbase don''t care where or how their OS is running - even 3/4 of our > developers don''t care, as long as the performance is ok. For the 1/4 > developers who do care, don''t bitch and just give them a standalonemachine.> It is really a win-win situation with xen, we have the control over the > hardware while they have control over their windows game console ... er OS > *cough* :-) . > > But definitely need the gplpv drivers to work if I am to migrate most ofmy> users. > > Anyway, thanks for the advise. > > Peter. > > On Tuesday 19 August 2008 14:50:19 Dustin Henning wrote: > > Peter, > > OK, first and foremost, I think I forgot to mention this thread in > > my last response: > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00428.html > > I bring it up now because I looked over your config again and noticedthe> > two CD-ROM drives. It may be that you need to get rid of them as thismay> > be a new problem with 0.9.11-pre11 (if you really need those images > mounted > > in Windows, you might be able to use something like Elby Virtual Clone > Drive > > [http://elby.ch/fun/software/index.html] to mount those images fromwithin> > the domU, but I don''t know if this can be done automatically [might > require > > manual remount after each reboot]). > > I haven''t even messed with 0.9.11-preX, I am running 0.9.10. Seeing > > as how you had problems with it, my only thought is that if theinstaller> > changed for 0.9.11-pre11 vs 0.9.10, you might revert again and try0.9.10> to > > see if the add new hardware windows disappear on their own given a bitof> > time. I know I''ve had hanging like that in the past with previous > versions, > > and it seems like in some cases waiting long enough would make it work > > (though not necessarily with the performance the drivers are supposed to > > provide) and in others I had to restore (or rebuild) Windows, and try > again, > > as it used to (and may still) be absolutely crucial that the drivers are > > installed on a clean system, but I honestly don''t remember all thedetails> > here. Alternatively, since 0.9.10 caused your system to hang, you might > try > > the suggestion mentioned here on 0.9.11-pre11 (even though the issuebeing> > resolved appears to be unrelated and has potentially been solved in > pre11): > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00203.html > > I think the risk with doing that (disabling the xenhide.sys driver) > > is that if the system loads the qemu drivers and the gplpv drivers atthe> > same time you will get massive HD corruption (should not be a big deal > with > > a snapshot). However, for the record, I am shooting in the dark on all > > counts here (I haven''t suggested anything I wouldn''t try, but thatdoesn''t> > mean I haven''t suggested some things others wouldn''t recommend trying),so> > don''t get your hopes up. Unless removing the 0.9.10 drivers was donevia> a > > method other than reverting to a backup/snapshot (you said removing them > via > > device manager and it has always taken more steps than that) or the > drivers > > and their installation methods changed quite a bit between 0.9.10 and > > 0.9.11-pre11 (assuming you didn''t get the same error on 0.9.10), theerror> > ending in "but can''t find the device itself" might ultimately have > something > > to do with your environment (for instance, perhaps your version ofWindows> > is different or there is an issue with your version of debian). I think > > James usually spends more time dealing with his drivers and the list on > > weekends, so it might be a few days or a couple weeks before you hearmuch> > from him, but unless you luck out somehow, that''s probably what it will > > take. > > Finally, as an aside, regarding your thread on the performance of > > the GPLPV drivers, it surprises me that your users haven''t complained > about > > performance with qemu drivers, they must be easy to please. The > difference > > is most certainly noticeable and worth the trouble. > > Dustin > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > Biesen > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 04:47 > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > reverting is a matter of seconds, as I am running my domU on a lvm > snapshot > > volume. > > > > I tried installing again. When I got the new hardware windows, I did > > nothing, but they did nog go away. So I hit cancel on every one. > > > > In the device manager, the xen devices still had the exclamation mark. > > > > I then added the /gplpv line in the boot.ini and rebooted. This worked > fine > > ! But windows still didn''t use the xen drivers ( no change in thecounters> > in xm top ). The drivers still have the exclamation mark and every timeI> > reboot I get all the "new hardware" windows again and again. > > > > I had installed the 0.9.10 drivers last week, this made windows hang,but> > the counters in xm top did go up. > > > > I removed all faulty drivers from the device manager and rebooted. WhenI> > then look at the devices, no drivers are installed. I then installedthem> > one by one and get error : > > > > " Windows has loaded the driver in memory, but can''t find the device > itself > > ( code 41 )" ( this is a translation from dutch ) > > > > Any suggestions ? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Peter. > > > > On Monday 18 August 2008 17:32:37 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > I don''t remember what version this applies to, but at one point, > > when > > > installing, I was going through the "new hardware" windows and letting> > > Windows install the drivers automatically. I had problems when I did > > this. > > > After recovering to a pre GPLPV-installed environment, I ran the > > > installer again and let it deal with these windows. They eventually > > > disappeared without me even clicking next and then everything worked > > > great. I tried this because that is how some Windows driver > > > installers work (i.e. most mainboard RealTek sound drivers). However,> > > this may not help you, as this may have been with an installer for a > > > previous version that didn''t have the "the device is not plugged in, > > > cannot update driver" error, which I believe was added to prevent > > confusion when upgrading from one version to another. > > > Hopefully someone else can come back with more/better information, but> > > in the meantime, odds are that you''ll need to get to a pre > > > GPLPV-installed state (restore from backup) and try again, so if > > > getting back to that state is easy and you want to try the install > > > again before anyone else responds, just don''t interfere with the parts> > > of the install that look like they need manual intervention for awhile> > and see what happens. Good luck, > > > Dustin > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > > Biesen > > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 09:05 > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > Windows XP > > > SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the > > > 2.6.18 xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a 32bit> > > windows xp using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and diskio> > work. > > > > > > I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework. > > > > > > I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the > > > 0.9.11pre11 and installed it. > > > > > > While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannot update> > > driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows > > > complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of > > > its own ''high'' standard ). After installation, I get several "new > > hardware" windows. > > > I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpvdrivers> ). > > > > > > I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the > > > device manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all have a > > > exclamation mark on them. The only xen device working without problems> > > is "xen pci device driver". > > > > > > All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free > > > resources ( its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ). > > > > > > When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get > > > een BSOD on Mup.sys. > > > > > > Here''s my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu > > > stuff in the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ? ): > > > ------------------------------------ > > > kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader" > > > builder=''hvm'' > > > memory = 512 > > > name = "windows2" > > > disk = [ > > > ''phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w'',''file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9 > > > FMQ3-F > > > RVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r'',''file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r'' > > > , ] vif = [ ''bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01'', ] device_model = > > > ''/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm'' > > > > > > boot=''cd'' > > > sdl=0 > > > vnc=1 > > > vnclisten="0.0.0.0" > > > vncunused=1 > > > acpi=1 > > > apic=0 > > > pae=1 > > > usb = 1 > > > usbdevice = ''tablet'' > > > #serial="pty" > > > ---------------------------------- > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Peter. > > > -- > > > Peter Van Biesen > > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Peter Van Biesen > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > >-- Peter Van Biesen Sysadmin VAPH tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys Opgelet ! De domeinnaam van het Vlaams Agentschap is vanaf heden vaph.be. Dit betekent dat u uw correspondent kan bereiken via voornaam.naam@vaph.be. Gelieve aub dit aan te passen in uw adresboek. DISCLAIMER ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- De personeelsleden van het agentschap doen hun best om in e-mails betrouwbare informatie te geven. Toch kan niemand rechten doen gelden op basis van deze inhoud. Als in de e-mail een stellingname voorkomt, is dat niet noodzakelijk het standpunt van het agentschap. Rechtsgeldige beslissingen of officiele standpunten worden alleen per brief toegestuurd. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Peter Van Biesen
2008-Aug-27 10:29 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
Hi Dustin, I used a windows XP with SP2 EN to reinstall my domu. I installed the 0.9.11pre13 package, this produces the same errors as with my other windows XP version. I also tried the 0.9.10 version, which produced also the same results. I''m at a loss here. Apparently the problem isn''t the windows version. My collegue-vmware specialist is laughing his ass off at the moment :-( . Kindest regards, Peter. On Friday 22 August 2008 17:38:14 Dustin Henning wrote:> Peter, > Regarding installing SP1a and SP2, it may be possible to go directly > to SP2 (unless you are referring to.net 2.0 service packs and not WinXP > service packs), but I don''t remember for sure, and this wouldn''t affect your > problem, it''s just a thought for future reference. > It is possible that the drivers don''t work with your version of > Windows, and that seems more likely than them not working with host setup, > but I don''t know enough about either to say so definitively. It seems to me > like WinXP would work and be built the same for Dutch and English, as I > would think it would only be drastically different for extended languages > (like Chinese) and countries that have US export restrictions on encryption > or something, but I really don''t know. I can also tell you that I tried > several versions (either I started at 0.8.9, or 0.8.9 was the first version > that worked at all in my environment, so I deleted all previous ones) before > it worked for me. During that time, other people were using the drivers > successfully, so when 0.9.11 is no longer pre, and when 0.9.12 et all come > out, I would try again. That said, perhaps James can work with you on > getting an existing version to work, as determining what is causing your > problem may help in resolving other issues as well. > Dustin > > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Biesen > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 07:27 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > Hi Dustin, > > an update : > > - I reinstalled windows XP > - added SP1a an SP2 ( this is necessary for .net 2.0 ) > > On a snapshot, I installed 0.9.11pre12. All drivers have an exclamation > mark. > > I reverted to SP2 and installed 0.9.10. Windows hangs on the splash screen. > > The only thing I can conclude is that the gplpv drivers do not work with my > specific version of windows xp. Is it because it is a dutch version ? A > specific build ? Is this possible ( I''m a complete windows novice ) ? > > Kindest regards, > > Peter. > > On Wednesday 20 August 2008 14:48:10 Dustin Henning wrote: > > Peter, > > I would most definitely try rebuilding if you have the time. It is > > possible that following the cleanup steps from the wiki might work, but I > > never had much luck with them. After a rebuild, I would set up a > snapshot, > > try 0.9.10 again, and wait for the add new hardware windows to disappear > (I > > don''t know if this should happen in 0.9.11-preX as well or not), hopefully > > at this point, all of the drivers work. The xenvbd driver is the disk > > driver, so if it isn''t working right, it''s no wonder the system locks up > and > > goes to 100% CPU, xenhide is preventing Windows from seeing the qemu > > disk(s), and the driver for the xen ones (xenvbd) isn''t working. If the > > same problem were encountered, I would drop changes from the snapshot, try > > the new 0.9.11-pre12, and respond to the thread about it with any problems > > and a brief history of your experience thus far (dutch Windows, version of > > Debian, version of Xen, versions of GPLPV tried, issues encountered). He > > may have some more insight on Debian, or he may be able to gather > additional > > information to potentially test or fix your problem if it is related to > the > > Dutch version [I am assuming it is a fully different version, but > truthfully > > I don''t know whether it''s the same version with a language pack or a > > different version, and neither would surprise me]). Good luck, > > Dustin > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > Biesen > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 05:45 > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > I found this thread too and I tried without the cdrom devices already. > This > > makes no difference. > > > > I reverted and installed the 0.9.10. I only get "the device was not > plugged > > in" error twice now. The devices still have an exclamation mark in the > > device manager but the "add new hardware" dialog does disappear after a > > while. After reboot, windows seems to hang on the splash screen. I then > > disabled usb ( this is sometimes an issue when hanging on mup.sys ), and > now > > the screen goes black and the domu uses 100% CPU. At the third reboot, I > > select safe mode and behold - windows boots. > > > > When looking in the device manager, only the xen vbd driver had an > > exclamation mark. The network drivers seems to work ( I had now some 10 > > network devices ). I disabled the vdb driver and rebooted. Again a hang on > a > > black screen. > > > > So, basically, after installation of the driver, the only way to get > windows > > back online is to > > 1) disable usb > > 2) boot in safe mode > > > > Maybe I should completely reinstall windows xp ? > > > > Concerning performance : I pick my users carefully. First migrate users > who > > only use mail, browser and occasionally office. They do not need much > > diskperformance, in fact, they do not even know if an application is > running > > on their pc or on the network ( browser ). Once you have a userbase that > is > > satisfied with the performance, migrate a somewhat heavier user. If he > > complains, you can tell him : look, there are 10 users happy why you''re > not > > ? This buys you some time to figure the problem out en gets the user off > > your back. This is where I''m now. > > > > Never ever start with power users !! It is my experience that most of the > > userbase don''t care where or how their OS is running - even 3/4 of our > > developers don''t care, as long as the performance is ok. For the 1/4 > > developers who do care, don''t bitch and just give them a standalone > machine. > > It is really a win-win situation with xen, we have the control over the > > hardware while they have control over their windows game console ... er OS > > *cough* :-) . > > > > But definitely need the gplpv drivers to work if I am to migrate most of > my > > users. > > > > Anyway, thanks for the advise. > > > > Peter. > > > > On Tuesday 19 August 2008 14:50:19 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > Peter, > > > OK, first and foremost, I think I forgot to mention this thread in > > > my last response: > > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00428.html > > > I bring it up now because I looked over your config again and noticed > the > > > two CD-ROM drives. It may be that you need to get rid of them as this > may > > > be a new problem with 0.9.11-pre11 (if you really need those images > > mounted > > > in Windows, you might be able to use something like Elby Virtual Clone > > Drive > > > [http://elby.ch/fun/software/index.html] to mount those images from > within > > > the domU, but I don''t know if this can be done automatically [might > > require > > > manual remount after each reboot]). > > > I haven''t even messed with 0.9.11-preX, I am running 0.9.10. Seeing > > > as how you had problems with it, my only thought is that if the > installer > > > changed for 0.9.11-pre11 vs 0.9.10, you might revert again and try > 0.9.10 > > to > > > see if the add new hardware windows disappear on their own given a bit > of > > > time. I know I''ve had hanging like that in the past with previous > > versions, > > > and it seems like in some cases waiting long enough would make it work > > > (though not necessarily with the performance the drivers are supposed to > > > provide) and in others I had to restore (or rebuild) Windows, and try > > again, > > > as it used to (and may still) be absolutely crucial that the drivers are > > > installed on a clean system, but I honestly don''t remember all the > details > > > here. Alternatively, since 0.9.10 caused your system to hang, you might > > try > > > the suggestion mentioned here on 0.9.11-pre11 (even though the issue > being > > > resolved appears to be unrelated and has potentially been solved in > > pre11): > > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00203.html > > > I think the risk with doing that (disabling the xenhide.sys driver) > > > is that if the system loads the qemu drivers and the gplpv drivers at > the > > > same time you will get massive HD corruption (should not be a big deal > > with > > > a snapshot). However, for the record, I am shooting in the dark on all > > > counts here (I haven''t suggested anything I wouldn''t try, but that > doesn''t > > > mean I haven''t suggested some things others wouldn''t recommend trying), > so > > > don''t get your hopes up. Unless removing the 0.9.10 drivers was done > via > > a > > > method other than reverting to a backup/snapshot (you said removing them > > via > > > device manager and it has always taken more steps than that) or the > > drivers > > > and their installation methods changed quite a bit between 0.9.10 and > > > 0.9.11-pre11 (assuming you didn''t get the same error on 0.9.10), the > error > > > ending in "but can''t find the device itself" might ultimately have > > something > > > to do with your environment (for instance, perhaps your version of > Windows > > > is different or there is an issue with your version of debian). I think > > > James usually spends more time dealing with his drivers and the list on > > > weekends, so it might be a few days or a couple weeks before you hear > much > > > from him, but unless you luck out somehow, that''s probably what it will > > > take. > > > Finally, as an aside, regarding your thread on the performance of > > > the GPLPV drivers, it surprises me that your users haven''t complained > > about > > > performance with qemu drivers, they must be easy to please. The > > difference > > > is most certainly noticeable and worth the trouble. > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > Biesen > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 04:47 > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > > > reverting is a matter of seconds, as I am running my domU on a lvm > > snapshot > > > volume. > > > > > > I tried installing again. When I got the new hardware windows, I did > > > nothing, but they did nog go away. So I hit cancel on every one. > > > > > > In the device manager, the xen devices still had the exclamation mark. > > > > > > I then added the /gplpv line in the boot.ini and rebooted. This worked > > fine > > > ! But windows still didn''t use the xen drivers ( no change in the > counters > > > in xm top ). The drivers still have the exclamation mark and every time > I > > > reboot I get all the "new hardware" windows again and again. > > > > > > I had installed the 0.9.10 drivers last week, this made windows hang, > but > > > the counters in xm top did go up. > > > > > > I removed all faulty drivers from the device manager and rebooted. When > I > > > then look at the devices, no drivers are installed. I then installed > them > > > one by one and get error : > > > > > > " Windows has loaded the driver in memory, but can''t find the device > > itself > > > ( code 41 )" ( this is a translation from dutch ) > > > > > > Any suggestions ? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > On Monday 18 August 2008 17:32:37 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > > I don''t remember what version this applies to, but at one point, > > > when > > > > installing, I was going through the "new hardware" windows and letting > > > > > Windows install the drivers automatically. I had problems when I did > > > this. > > > > After recovering to a pre GPLPV-installed environment, I ran the > > > > installer again and let it deal with these windows. They eventually > > > > disappeared without me even clicking next and then everything worked > > > > great. I tried this because that is how some Windows driver > > > > installers work (i.e. most mainboard RealTek sound drivers). However, > > > > > this may not help you, as this may have been with an installer for a > > > > previous version that didn''t have the "the device is not plugged in, > > > > cannot update driver" error, which I believe was added to prevent > > > confusion when upgrading from one version to another. > > > > Hopefully someone else can come back with more/better information, but > > > > > in the meantime, odds are that you''ll need to get to a pre > > > > GPLPV-installed state (restore from backup) and try again, so if > > > > getting back to that state is easy and you want to try the install > > > > again before anyone else responds, just don''t interfere with the parts > > > > > of the install that look like they need manual intervention for a > while > > > and see what happens. Good luck, > > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > > > Biesen > > > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 09:05 > > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > > Windows XP > > > > SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the > > > > 2.6.18 xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a 32bit > > > > > windows xp using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and disk > io > > > work. > > > > > > > > I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework. > > > > > > > > I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the > > > > 0.9.11pre11 and installed it. > > > > > > > > While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannot update > > > > > driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows > > > > complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of > > > > its own ''high'' standard ). After installation, I get several "new > > > hardware" windows. > > > > I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpv > drivers > > ). > > > > > > > > I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the > > > > device manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all have a > > > > exclamation mark on them. The only xen device working without problems > > > > > is "xen pci device driver". > > > > > > > > All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free > > > > resources ( its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ). > > > > > > > > When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get > > > > een BSOD on Mup.sys. > > > > > > > > Here''s my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu > > > > stuff in the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ? ): > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader" > > > > builder=''hvm'' > > > > memory = 512 > > > > name = "windows2" > > > > disk = [ > > > > ''phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w'',''file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9 > > > > FMQ3-F > > > > RVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r'',''file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r'' > > > > , ] vif = [ ''bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01'', ] device_model = > > > > ''/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm'' > > > > > > > > boot=''cd'' > > > > sdl=0 > > > > vnc=1 > > > > vnclisten="0.0.0.0" > > > > vncunused=1 > > > > acpi=1 > > > > apic=0 > > > > pae=1 > > > > usb = 1 > > > > usbdevice = ''tablet'' > > > > #serial="pty" > > > > ---------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > Peter. > > > > -- > > > > Peter Van Biesen > > > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Peter Van Biesen > > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- Peter Van Biesen Sysadmin VAPH tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys Opgelet ! 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Dustin Henning
2008-Aug-28 12:23 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
Peter, I am out of ideas. Hopefully James can give you something more useful to go in. I think I recently read that he had been out on holiday or something, so He might be playing catch-up, or he might only be reading new messages. I don''t know. Dustin -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Biesen Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 06:30 To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working Hi Dustin, I used a windows XP with SP2 EN to reinstall my domu. I installed the 0.9.11pre13 package, this produces the same errors as with my other windows XP version. I also tried the 0.9.10 version, which produced also the same results. I''m at a loss here. Apparently the problem isn''t the windows version. My collegue-vmware specialist is laughing his ass off at the moment :-( . Kindest regards, Peter. On Friday 22 August 2008 17:38:14 Dustin Henning wrote:> Peter, > Regarding installing SP1a and SP2, it may be possible to go directly > to SP2 (unless you are referring to.net 2.0 service packs and not WinXP > service packs), but I don''t remember for sure, and this wouldn''t affectyour> problem, it''s just a thought for future reference. > It is possible that the drivers don''t work with your version of > Windows, and that seems more likely than them not working with host setup, > but I don''t know enough about either to say so definitively. It seems tome> like WinXP would work and be built the same for Dutch and English, as I > would think it would only be drastically different for extended languages > (like Chinese) and countries that have US export restrictions onencryption> or something, but I really don''t know. I can also tell you that I tried > several versions (either I started at 0.8.9, or 0.8.9 was the firstversion> that worked at all in my environment, so I deleted all previous ones)before> it worked for me. During that time, other people were using the drivers > successfully, so when 0.9.11 is no longer pre, and when 0.9.12 et all come > out, I would try again. That said, perhaps James can work with you on > getting an existing version to work, as determining what is causing your > problem may help in resolving other issues as well. > Dustin > > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter VanBiesen> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 07:27 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > Hi Dustin, > > an update : > > - I reinstalled windows XP > - added SP1a an SP2 ( this is necessary for .net 2.0 ) > > On a snapshot, I installed 0.9.11pre12. All drivers have an exclamation > mark. > > I reverted to SP2 and installed 0.9.10. Windows hangs on the splashscreen.> > The only thing I can conclude is that the gplpv drivers do not work withmy> specific version of windows xp. Is it because it is a dutch version ? A > specific build ? Is this possible ( I''m a complete windows novice ) ? > > Kindest regards, > > Peter. > > On Wednesday 20 August 2008 14:48:10 Dustin Henning wrote: > > Peter, > > I would most definitely try rebuilding if you have the time. It is > > possible that following the cleanup steps from the wiki might work, butI> > never had much luck with them. After a rebuild, I would set up a > snapshot, > > try 0.9.10 again, and wait for the add new hardware windows to disappear > (I > > don''t know if this should happen in 0.9.11-preX as well or not),hopefully> > at this point, all of the drivers work. The xenvbd driver is the disk > > driver, so if it isn''t working right, it''s no wonder the system locks up > and > > goes to 100% CPU, xenhide is preventing Windows from seeing the qemu > > disk(s), and the driver for the xen ones (xenvbd) isn''t working. If the > > same problem were encountered, I would drop changes from the snapshot,try> > the new 0.9.11-pre12, and respond to the thread about it with anyproblems> > and a brief history of your experience thus far (dutch Windows, versionof> > Debian, version of Xen, versions of GPLPV tried, issues encountered).He> > may have some more insight on Debian, or he may be able to gather > additional > > information to potentially test or fix your problem if it is related to > the > > Dutch version [I am assuming it is a fully different version, but > truthfully > > I don''t know whether it''s the same version with a language pack or a > > different version, and neither would surprise me]). Good luck, > > Dustin > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > Biesen > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 05:45 > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > I found this thread too and I tried without the cdrom devices already. > This > > makes no difference. > > > > I reverted and installed the 0.9.10. I only get "the device was not > plugged > > in" error twice now. The devices still have an exclamation mark in the > > device manager but the "add new hardware" dialog does disappear after a > > while. After reboot, windows seems to hang on the splash screen. I then > > disabled usb ( this is sometimes an issue when hanging on mup.sys ), and > now > > the screen goes black and the domu uses 100% CPU. At the third reboot, I > > select safe mode and behold - windows boots. > > > > When looking in the device manager, only the xen vbd driver had an > > exclamation mark. The network drivers seems to work ( I had now some 10 > > network devices ). I disabled the vdb driver and rebooted. Again a hangon> a > > black screen. > > > > So, basically, after installation of the driver, the only way to get > windows > > back online is to > > 1) disable usb > > 2) boot in safe mode > > > > Maybe I should completely reinstall windows xp ? > > > > Concerning performance : I pick my users carefully. First migrate users > who > > only use mail, browser and occasionally office. They do not need much > > diskperformance, in fact, they do not even know if an application is > running > > on their pc or on the network ( browser ). Once you have a userbase that > is > > satisfied with the performance, migrate a somewhat heavier user. If he > > complains, you can tell him : look, there are 10 users happy why you''re > not > > ? This buys you some time to figure the problem out en gets the user off > > your back. This is where I''m now. > > > > Never ever start with power users !! It is my experience that most ofthe> > userbase don''t care where or how their OS is running - even 3/4 of our > > developers don''t care, as long as the performance is ok. For the 1/4 > > developers who do care, don''t bitch and just give them a standalone > machine. > > It is really a win-win situation with xen, we have the control over the > > hardware while they have control over their windows game console ... erOS> > *cough* :-) . > > > > But definitely need the gplpv drivers to work if I am to migrate most of > my > > users. > > > > Anyway, thanks for the advise. > > > > Peter. > > > > On Tuesday 19 August 2008 14:50:19 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > Peter, > > > OK, first and foremost, I think I forgot to mention this thread in > > > my last response: > > >http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00428.html> > > I bring it up now because I looked over your config again and noticed > the > > > two CD-ROM drives. It may be that you need to get rid of them as this > may > > > be a new problem with 0.9.11-pre11 (if you really need those images > > mounted > > > in Windows, you might be able to use something like Elby Virtual Clone > > Drive > > > [http://elby.ch/fun/software/index.html] to mount those images from > within > > > the domU, but I don''t know if this can be done automatically [might > > require > > > manual remount after each reboot]). > > > I haven''t even messed with 0.9.11-preX, I am running 0.9.10. Seeing > > > as how you had problems with it, my only thought is that if the > installer > > > changed for 0.9.11-pre11 vs 0.9.10, you might revert again and try > 0.9.10 > > to > > > see if the add new hardware windows disappear on their own given a bit > of > > > time. I know I''ve had hanging like that in the past with previous > > versions, > > > and it seems like in some cases waiting long enough would make it work > > > (though not necessarily with the performance the drivers are supposedto> > > provide) and in others I had to restore (or rebuild) Windows, and try > > again, > > > as it used to (and may still) be absolutely crucial that the driversare> > > installed on a clean system, but I honestly don''t remember all the > details > > > here. Alternatively, since 0.9.10 caused your system to hang, youmight> > try > > > the suggestion mentioned here on 0.9.11-pre11 (even though the issue > being > > > resolved appears to be unrelated and has potentially been solved in > > pre11): > > >http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00203.html> > > I think the risk with doing that (disabling the xenhide.sys driver) > > > is that if the system loads the qemu drivers and the gplpv drivers at > the > > > same time you will get massive HD corruption (should not be a big deal > > with > > > a snapshot). However, for the record, I am shooting in the dark onall> > > counts here (I haven''t suggested anything I wouldn''t try, but that > doesn''t > > > mean I haven''t suggested some things others wouldn''t recommendtrying),> so > > > don''t get your hopes up. Unless removing the 0.9.10 drivers was done > via > > a > > > method other than reverting to a backup/snapshot (you said removingthem> > via > > > device manager and it has always taken more steps than that) or the > > drivers > > > and their installation methods changed quite a bit between 0.9.10 and > > > 0.9.11-pre11 (assuming you didn''t get the same error on 0.9.10), the > error > > > ending in "but can''t find the device itself" might ultimately have > > something > > > to do with your environment (for instance, perhaps your version of > Windows > > > is different or there is an issue with your version of debian). Ithink> > > James usually spends more time dealing with his drivers and the liston> > > weekends, so it might be a few days or a couple weeks before you hear > much > > > from him, but unless you luck out somehow, that''s probably what itwill> > > take. > > > Finally, as an aside, regarding your thread on the performance of > > > the GPLPV drivers, it surprises me that your users haven''t complained > > about > > > performance with qemu drivers, they must be easy to please. The > > difference > > > is most certainly noticeable and worth the trouble. > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > Biesen > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 04:47 > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > > > reverting is a matter of seconds, as I am running my domU on a lvm > > snapshot > > > volume. > > > > > > I tried installing again. When I got the new hardware windows, I did > > > nothing, but they did nog go away. So I hit cancel on every one. > > > > > > In the device manager, the xen devices still had the exclamation mark.> > > > > > I then added the /gplpv line in the boot.ini and rebooted. This worked > > fine > > > ! But windows still didn''t use the xen drivers ( no change in the > counters > > > in xm top ). The drivers still have the exclamation mark and everytime> I > > > reboot I get all the "new hardware" windows again and again. > > > > > > I had installed the 0.9.10 drivers last week, this made windows hang, > but > > > the counters in xm top did go up. > > > > > > I removed all faulty drivers from the device manager and rebooted.When> I > > > then look at the devices, no drivers are installed. I then installed > them > > > one by one and get error : > > > > > > " Windows has loaded the driver in memory, but can''t find the device > > itself > > > ( code 41 )" ( this is a translation from dutch ) > > > > > > Any suggestions ? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > On Monday 18 August 2008 17:32:37 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > > I don''t remember what version this applies to, but at onepoint,> > > when > > > > installing, I was going through the "new hardware" windows andletting> > > > > Windows install the drivers automatically. I had problems when Idid> > > this. > > > > After recovering to a pre GPLPV-installed environment, I ran the > > > > installer again and let it deal with these windows. They eventually> > > > disappeared without me even clicking next and then everything worked> > > > great. I tried this because that is how some Windows driver > > > > installers work (i.e. most mainboard RealTek sound drivers).However,> > > > > this may not help you, as this may have been with an installer for a> > > > previous version that didn''t have the "the device is not plugged in,> > > > cannot update driver" error, which I believe was added to prevent > > > confusion when upgrading from one version to another. > > > > Hopefully someone else can come back with more/better information,but> > > > > in the meantime, odds are that you''ll need to get to a pre > > > > GPLPV-installed state (restore from backup) and try again, so if > > > > getting back to that state is easy and you want to try the install > > > > again before anyone else responds, just don''t interfere with theparts> > > > > of the install that look like they need manual intervention for a > while > > > and see what happens. Good luck, > > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of PeterVan> > > > Biesen > > > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 09:05 > > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > > Windows XP > > > > SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the> > > > 2.6.18 xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a32bit> > > > > windows xp using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and disk > io > > > work. > > > > > > > > I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework. > > > > > > > > I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the > > > > 0.9.11pre11 and installed it. > > > > > > > > While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannotupdate> > > > > driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows > > > > complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of> > > > its own ''high'' standard ). After installation, I get several "new > > > hardware" windows. > > > > I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpv > drivers > > ). > > > > > > > > I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the > > > > device manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all havea> > > > exclamation mark on them. The only xen device working withoutproblems> > > > > is "xen pci device driver". > > > > > > > > All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free > > > > resources ( its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ). > > > > > > > > When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get> > > > een BSOD on Mup.sys. > > > > > > > > Here''s my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu > > > > stuff in the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ?):> > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader" > > > > builder=''hvm'' > > > > memory = 512 > > > > name = "windows2" > > > > disk = [ > > > >''phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w'',''file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9> > > > FMQ3-F > > > >RVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r'',''file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r''> > > > , ] vif = [ ''bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01'', ] device_model = > > > > ''/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm'' > > > > > > > > boot=''cd'' > > > > sdl=0 > > > > vnc=1 > > > > vnclisten="0.0.0.0" > > > > vncunused=1 > > > > acpi=1 > > > > apic=0 > > > > pae=1 > > > > usb = 1 > > > > usbdevice = ''tablet'' > > > > #serial="pty" > > > > ---------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > Peter. > > > > -- > > > > Peter Van Biesen > > > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Peter Van Biesen > > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- Peter Van Biesen Sysadmin VAPH tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys Opgelet ! 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Peter Van Biesen
2008-Oct-01 13:01 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] SOLVED Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
Hi all, I saw a message on the list yesterday saying the gplpv driver could have a problem with lvm. I tried the gplpv driver without lvm and all works perfectly ! Kindest regards, Peter. On Wednesday 27 August 2008 12:29:35 Peter Van Biesen wrote:> Hi Dustin, > > I used a windows XP with SP2 EN to reinstall my domu. I installed the 0.9.11pre13 package, this produces the same errors as with my other windows XP version. I also tried the 0.9.10 version, which produced also the same results. > > I''m at a loss here. Apparently the problem isn''t the windows version. > > My collegue-vmware specialist is laughing his ass off at the moment :-( . > > Kindest regards, > > Peter. > > On Friday 22 August 2008 17:38:14 Dustin Henning wrote: > > Peter, > > Regarding installing SP1a and SP2, it may be possible to go directly > > to SP2 (unless you are referring to.net 2.0 service packs and not WinXP > > service packs), but I don''t remember for sure, and this wouldn''t affect your > > problem, it''s just a thought for future reference. > > It is possible that the drivers don''t work with your version of > > Windows, and that seems more likely than them not working with host setup, > > but I don''t know enough about either to say so definitively. It seems to me > > like WinXP would work and be built the same for Dutch and English, as I > > would think it would only be drastically different for extended languages > > (like Chinese) and countries that have US export restrictions on encryption > > or something, but I really don''t know. I can also tell you that I tried > > several versions (either I started at 0.8.9, or 0.8.9 was the first version > > that worked at all in my environment, so I deleted all previous ones) before > > it worked for me. During that time, other people were using the drivers > > successfully, so when 0.9.11 is no longer pre, and when 0.9.12 et all come > > out, I would try again. That said, perhaps James can work with you on > > getting an existing version to work, as determining what is causing your > > problem may help in resolving other issues as well. > > Dustin > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Biesen > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 07:27 > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > an update : > > > > - I reinstalled windows XP > > - added SP1a an SP2 ( this is necessary for .net 2.0 ) > > > > On a snapshot, I installed 0.9.11pre12. All drivers have an exclamation > > mark. > > > > I reverted to SP2 and installed 0.9.10. Windows hangs on the splash screen. > > > > The only thing I can conclude is that the gplpv drivers do not work with my > > specific version of windows xp. Is it because it is a dutch version ? A > > specific build ? Is this possible ( I''m a complete windows novice ) ? > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > Peter. > > > > On Wednesday 20 August 2008 14:48:10 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > Peter, > > > I would most definitely try rebuilding if you have the time. It is > > > possible that following the cleanup steps from the wiki might work, but I > > > never had much luck with them. After a rebuild, I would set up a > > snapshot, > > > try 0.9.10 again, and wait for the add new hardware windows to disappear > > (I > > > don''t know if this should happen in 0.9.11-preX as well or not), hopefully > > > at this point, all of the drivers work. The xenvbd driver is the disk > > > driver, so if it isn''t working right, it''s no wonder the system locks up > > and > > > goes to 100% CPU, xenhide is preventing Windows from seeing the qemu > > > disk(s), and the driver for the xen ones (xenvbd) isn''t working. If the > > > same problem were encountered, I would drop changes from the snapshot, try > > > the new 0.9.11-pre12, and respond to the thread about it with any problems > > > and a brief history of your experience thus far (dutch Windows, version of > > > Debian, version of Xen, versions of GPLPV tried, issues encountered). He > > > may have some more insight on Debian, or he may be able to gather > > additional > > > information to potentially test or fix your problem if it is related to > > the > > > Dutch version [I am assuming it is a fully different version, but > > truthfully > > > I don''t know whether it''s the same version with a language pack or a > > > different version, and neither would surprise me]). Good luck, > > > Dustin > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > Biesen > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 05:45 > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > > > I found this thread too and I tried without the cdrom devices already. > > This > > > makes no difference. > > > > > > I reverted and installed the 0.9.10. I only get "the device was not > > plugged > > > in" error twice now. The devices still have an exclamation mark in the > > > device manager but the "add new hardware" dialog does disappear after a > > > while. After reboot, windows seems to hang on the splash screen. I then > > > disabled usb ( this is sometimes an issue when hanging on mup.sys ), and > > now > > > the screen goes black and the domu uses 100% CPU. At the third reboot, I > > > select safe mode and behold - windows boots. > > > > > > When looking in the device manager, only the xen vbd driver had an > > > exclamation mark. The network drivers seems to work ( I had now some 10 > > > network devices ). I disabled the vdb driver and rebooted. Again a hang on > > a > > > black screen. > > > > > > So, basically, after installation of the driver, the only way to get > > windows > > > back online is to > > > 1) disable usb > > > 2) boot in safe mode > > > > > > Maybe I should completely reinstall windows xp ? > > > > > > Concerning performance : I pick my users carefully. First migrate users > > who > > > only use mail, browser and occasionally office. They do not need much > > > diskperformance, in fact, they do not even know if an application is > > running > > > on their pc or on the network ( browser ). Once you have a userbase that > > is > > > satisfied with the performance, migrate a somewhat heavier user. If he > > > complains, you can tell him : look, there are 10 users happy why you''re > > not > > > ? This buys you some time to figure the problem out en gets the user off > > > your back. This is where I''m now. > > > > > > Never ever start with power users !! It is my experience that most of the > > > userbase don''t care where or how their OS is running - even 3/4 of our > > > developers don''t care, as long as the performance is ok. For the 1/4 > > > developers who do care, don''t bitch and just give them a standalone > > machine. > > > It is really a win-win situation with xen, we have the control over the > > > hardware while they have control over their windows game console ... er OS > > > *cough* :-) . > > > > > > But definitely need the gplpv drivers to work if I am to migrate most of > > my > > > users. > > > > > > Anyway, thanks for the advise. > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > On Tuesday 19 August 2008 14:50:19 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > > Peter, > > > > OK, first and foremost, I think I forgot to mention this thread in > > > > my last response: > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00428.html > > > > I bring it up now because I looked over your config again and noticed > > the > > > > two CD-ROM drives. It may be that you need to get rid of them as this > > may > > > > be a new problem with 0.9.11-pre11 (if you really need those images > > > mounted > > > > in Windows, you might be able to use something like Elby Virtual Clone > > > Drive > > > > [http://elby.ch/fun/software/index.html] to mount those images from > > within > > > > the domU, but I don''t know if this can be done automatically [might > > > require > > > > manual remount after each reboot]). > > > > I haven''t even messed with 0.9.11-preX, I am running 0.9.10. Seeing > > > > as how you had problems with it, my only thought is that if the > > installer > > > > changed for 0.9.11-pre11 vs 0.9.10, you might revert again and try > > 0.9.10 > > > to > > > > see if the add new hardware windows disappear on their own given a bit > > of > > > > time. I know I''ve had hanging like that in the past with previous > > > versions, > > > > and it seems like in some cases waiting long enough would make it work > > > > (though not necessarily with the performance the drivers are supposed to > > > > provide) and in others I had to restore (or rebuild) Windows, and try > > > again, > > > > as it used to (and may still) be absolutely crucial that the drivers are > > > > installed on a clean system, but I honestly don''t remember all the > > details > > > > here. Alternatively, since 0.9.10 caused your system to hang, you might > > > try > > > > the suggestion mentioned here on 0.9.11-pre11 (even though the issue > > being > > > > resolved appears to be unrelated and has potentially been solved in > > > pre11): > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00203.html > > > > I think the risk with doing that (disabling the xenhide.sys driver) > > > > is that if the system loads the qemu drivers and the gplpv drivers at > > the > > > > same time you will get massive HD corruption (should not be a big deal > > > with > > > > a snapshot). However, for the record, I am shooting in the dark on all > > > > counts here (I haven''t suggested anything I wouldn''t try, but that > > doesn''t > > > > mean I haven''t suggested some things others wouldn''t recommend trying), > > so > > > > don''t get your hopes up. Unless removing the 0.9.10 drivers was done > > via > > > a > > > > method other than reverting to a backup/snapshot (you said removing them > > > via > > > > device manager and it has always taken more steps than that) or the > > > drivers > > > > and their installation methods changed quite a bit between 0.9.10 and > > > > 0.9.11-pre11 (assuming you didn''t get the same error on 0.9.10), the > > error > > > > ending in "but can''t find the device itself" might ultimately have > > > something > > > > to do with your environment (for instance, perhaps your version of > > Windows > > > > is different or there is an issue with your version of debian). I think > > > > James usually spends more time dealing with his drivers and the list on > > > > weekends, so it might be a few days or a couple weeks before you hear > > much > > > > from him, but unless you luck out somehow, that''s probably what it will > > > > take. > > > > Finally, as an aside, regarding your thread on the performance of > > > > the GPLPV drivers, it surprises me that your users haven''t complained > > > about > > > > performance with qemu drivers, they must be easy to please. The > > > difference > > > > is most certainly noticeable and worth the trouble. > > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > > Biesen > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 04:47 > > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > > > > > reverting is a matter of seconds, as I am running my domU on a lvm > > > snapshot > > > > volume. > > > > > > > > I tried installing again. When I got the new hardware windows, I did > > > > nothing, but they did nog go away. So I hit cancel on every one. > > > > > > > > In the device manager, the xen devices still had the exclamation mark. > > > > > > > > I then added the /gplpv line in the boot.ini and rebooted. This worked > > > fine > > > > ! But windows still didn''t use the xen drivers ( no change in the > > counters > > > > in xm top ). The drivers still have the exclamation mark and every time > > I > > > > reboot I get all the "new hardware" windows again and again. > > > > > > > > I had installed the 0.9.10 drivers last week, this made windows hang, > > but > > > > the counters in xm top did go up. > > > > > > > > I removed all faulty drivers from the device manager and rebooted. When > > I > > > > then look at the devices, no drivers are installed. I then installed > > them > > > > one by one and get error : > > > > > > > > " Windows has loaded the driver in memory, but can''t find the device > > > itself > > > > ( code 41 )" ( this is a translation from dutch ) > > > > > > > > Any suggestions ? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > > > On Monday 18 August 2008 17:32:37 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > > > I don''t remember what version this applies to, but at one point, > > > > when > > > > > installing, I was going through the "new hardware" windows and letting > > > > > > > Windows install the drivers automatically. I had problems when I did > > > > this. > > > > > After recovering to a pre GPLPV-installed environment, I ran the > > > > > installer again and let it deal with these windows. They eventually > > > > > disappeared without me even clicking next and then everything worked > > > > > great. I tried this because that is how some Windows driver > > > > > installers work (i.e. most mainboard RealTek sound drivers). However, > > > > > > > this may not help you, as this may have been with an installer for a > > > > > previous version that didn''t have the "the device is not plugged in, > > > > > cannot update driver" error, which I believe was added to prevent > > > > confusion when upgrading from one version to another. > > > > > Hopefully someone else can come back with more/better information, but > > > > > > > in the meantime, odds are that you''ll need to get to a pre > > > > > GPLPV-installed state (restore from backup) and try again, so if > > > > > getting back to that state is easy and you want to try the install > > > > > again before anyone else responds, just don''t interfere with the parts > > > > > > > of the install that look like they need manual intervention for a > > while > > > > and see what happens. Good luck, > > > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > > > > Biesen > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 09:05 > > > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > > Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > > > Windows XP > > > > > SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the > > > > > 2.6.18 xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a 32bit > > > > > > > windows xp using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and disk > > io > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework. > > > > > > > > > > I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the > > > > > 0.9.11pre11 and installed it. > > > > > > > > > > While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannot update > > > > > > > driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows > > > > > complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of > > > > > its own ''high'' standard ). After installation, I get several "new > > > > hardware" windows. > > > > > I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpv > > drivers > > > ). > > > > > > > > > > I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the > > > > > device manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all have a > > > > > exclamation mark on them. The only xen device working without problems > > > > > > > is "xen pci device driver". > > > > > > > > > > All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free > > > > > resources ( its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ). > > > > > > > > > > When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get > > > > > een BSOD on Mup.sys. > > > > > > > > > > Here''s my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu > > > > > stuff in the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ? ): > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader" > > > > > builder=''hvm'' > > > > > memory = 512 > > > > > name = "windows2" > > > > > disk = [ > > > > > ''phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w'',''file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9 > > > > > FMQ3-F > > > > > RVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r'',''file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r'' > > > > > , ] vif = [ ''bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01'', ] device_model = > > > > > ''/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm'' > > > > > > > > > > boot=''cd'' > > > > > sdl=0 > > > > > vnc=1 > > > > > vnclisten="0.0.0.0" > > > > > vncunused=1 > > > > > acpi=1 > > > > > apic=0 > > > > > pae=1 > > > > > usb = 1 > > > > > usbdevice = ''tablet'' > > > > > #serial="pty" > > > > > ---------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > -- > > > > > Peter Van Biesen > > > > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > > > > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > > > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > > > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > > > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Peter Van Biesen > > > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- Peter Van Biesen Sysadmin VAPH tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Nemeth, Tamas
2008-Oct-01 14:01 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] SOLVED Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
OK, i''ve made a bug report on this topic (at least my experiences). Have a nice day Tamas 2008. 10. 1, szerda keltezéssel 15.01-kor Peter Van Biesen ezt írta:> Hi all, > > I saw a message on the list yesterday saying the gplpv driver could have a problem with lvm. I tried the gplpv driver without lvm and all works perfectly ! > > Kindest regards, > > Peter. > > On Wednesday 27 August 2008 12:29:35 Peter Van Biesen wrote: > > Hi Dustin, > > > > I used a windows XP with SP2 EN to reinstall my domu. I installed the 0.9.11pre13 package, this produces the same errors as with my other windows XP version. I also tried the 0.9.10 version, which produced also the same results. > > > > I''m at a loss here. Apparently the problem isn''t the windows version. > > > > My collegue-vmware specialist is laughing his ass off at the moment :-( . > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > Peter. > > > > On Friday 22 August 2008 17:38:14 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > Peter, > > > Regarding installing SP1a and SP2, it may be possible to go directly > > > to SP2 (unless you are referring to.net 2.0 service packs and not WinXP > > > service packs), but I don''t remember for sure, and this wouldn''t affect your > > > problem, it''s just a thought for future reference. > > > It is possible that the drivers don''t work with your version of > > > Windows, and that seems more likely than them not working with host setup, > > > but I don''t know enough about either to say so definitively. It seems to me > > > like WinXP would work and be built the same for Dutch and English, as I > > > would think it would only be drastically different for extended languages > > > (like Chinese) and countries that have US export restrictions on encryption > > > or something, but I really don''t know. I can also tell you that I tried > > > several versions (either I started at 0.8.9, or 0.8.9 was the first version > > > that worked at all in my environment, so I deleted all previous ones) before > > > it worked for me. During that time, other people were using the drivers > > > successfully, so when 0.9.11 is no longer pre, and when 0.9.12 et all come > > > out, I would try again. That said, perhaps James can work with you on > > > getting an existing version to work, as determining what is causing your > > > problem may help in resolving other issues as well. > > > Dustin > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Biesen > > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 07:27 > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > > > an update : > > > > > > - I reinstalled windows XP > > > - added SP1a an SP2 ( this is necessary for .net 2.0 ) > > > > > > On a snapshot, I installed 0.9.11pre12. All drivers have an exclamation > > > mark. > > > > > > I reverted to SP2 and installed 0.9.10. Windows hangs on the splash screen. > > > > > > The only thing I can conclude is that the gplpv drivers do not work with my > > > specific version of windows xp. Is it because it is a dutch version ? A > > > specific build ? Is this possible ( I''m a complete windows novice ) ? > > > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > On Wednesday 20 August 2008 14:48:10 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > > Peter, > > > > I would most definitely try rebuilding if you have the time. It is > > > > possible that following the cleanup steps from the wiki might work, but I > > > > never had much luck with them. After a rebuild, I would set up a > > > snapshot, > > > > try 0.9.10 again, and wait for the add new hardware windows to disappear > > > (I > > > > don''t know if this should happen in 0.9.11-preX as well or not), hopefully > > > > at this point, all of the drivers work. The xenvbd driver is the disk > > > > driver, so if it isn''t working right, it''s no wonder the system locks up > > > and > > > > goes to 100% CPU, xenhide is preventing Windows from seeing the qemu > > > > disk(s), and the driver for the xen ones (xenvbd) isn''t working. If the > > > > same problem were encountered, I would drop changes from the snapshot, try > > > > the new 0.9.11-pre12, and respond to the thread about it with any problems > > > > and a brief history of your experience thus far (dutch Windows, version of > > > > Debian, version of Xen, versions of GPLPV tried, issues encountered). He > > > > may have some more insight on Debian, or he may be able to gather > > > additional > > > > information to potentially test or fix your problem if it is related to > > > the > > > > Dutch version [I am assuming it is a fully different version, but > > > truthfully > > > > I don''t know whether it''s the same version with a language pack or a > > > > different version, and neither would surprise me]). Good luck, > > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > > Biesen > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 05:45 > > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > > > > > I found this thread too and I tried without the cdrom devices already. > > > This > > > > makes no difference. > > > > > > > > I reverted and installed the 0.9.10. I only get "the device was not > > > plugged > > > > in" error twice now. The devices still have an exclamation mark in the > > > > device manager but the "add new hardware" dialog does disappear after a > > > > while. After reboot, windows seems to hang on the splash screen. I then > > > > disabled usb ( this is sometimes an issue when hanging on mup.sys ), and > > > now > > > > the screen goes black and the domu uses 100% CPU. At the third reboot, I > > > > select safe mode and behold - windows boots. > > > > > > > > When looking in the device manager, only the xen vbd driver had an > > > > exclamation mark. The network drivers seems to work ( I had now some 10 > > > > network devices ). I disabled the vdb driver and rebooted. Again a hang on > > > a > > > > black screen. > > > > > > > > So, basically, after installation of the driver, the only way to get > > > windows > > > > back online is to > > > > 1) disable usb > > > > 2) boot in safe mode > > > > > > > > Maybe I should completely reinstall windows xp ? > > > > > > > > Concerning performance : I pick my users carefully. First migrate users > > > who > > > > only use mail, browser and occasionally office. They do not need much > > > > diskperformance, in fact, they do not even know if an application is > > > running > > > > on their pc or on the network ( browser ). Once you have a userbase that > > > is > > > > satisfied with the performance, migrate a somewhat heavier user. If he > > > > complains, you can tell him : look, there are 10 users happy why you''re > > > not > > > > ? This buys you some time to figure the problem out en gets the user off > > > > your back. This is where I''m now. > > > > > > > > Never ever start with power users !! It is my experience that most of the > > > > userbase don''t care where or how their OS is running - even 3/4 of our > > > > developers don''t care, as long as the performance is ok. For the 1/4 > > > > developers who do care, don''t bitch and just give them a standalone > > > machine. > > > > It is really a win-win situation with xen, we have the control over the > > > > hardware while they have control over their windows game console ... er OS > > > > *cough* :-) . > > > > > > > > But definitely need the gplpv drivers to work if I am to migrate most of > > > my > > > > users. > > > > > > > > Anyway, thanks for the advise. > > > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 19 August 2008 14:50:19 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > > > Peter, > > > > > OK, first and foremost, I think I forgot to mention this thread in > > > > > my last response: > > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00428.html > > > > > I bring it up now because I looked over your config again and noticed > > > the > > > > > two CD-ROM drives. It may be that you need to get rid of them as this > > > may > > > > > be a new problem with 0.9.11-pre11 (if you really need those images > > > > mounted > > > > > in Windows, you might be able to use something like Elby Virtual Clone > > > > Drive > > > > > [http://elby.ch/fun/software/index.html] to mount those images from > > > within > > > > > the domU, but I don''t know if this can be done automatically [might > > > > require > > > > > manual remount after each reboot]). > > > > > I haven''t even messed with 0.9.11-preX, I am running 0.9.10. Seeing > > > > > as how you had problems with it, my only thought is that if the > > > installer > > > > > changed for 0.9.11-pre11 vs 0.9.10, you might revert again and try > > > 0.9.10 > > > > to > > > > > see if the add new hardware windows disappear on their own given a bit > > > of > > > > > time. I know I''ve had hanging like that in the past with previous > > > > versions, > > > > > and it seems like in some cases waiting long enough would make it work > > > > > (though not necessarily with the performance the drivers are supposed to > > > > > provide) and in others I had to restore (or rebuild) Windows, and try > > > > again, > > > > > as it used to (and may still) be absolutely crucial that the drivers are > > > > > installed on a clean system, but I honestly don''t remember all the > > > details > > > > > here. Alternatively, since 0.9.10 caused your system to hang, you might > > > > try > > > > > the suggestion mentioned here on 0.9.11-pre11 (even though the issue > > > being > > > > > resolved appears to be unrelated and has potentially been solved in > > > > pre11): > > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00203.html > > > > > I think the risk with doing that (disabling the xenhide.sys driver) > > > > > is that if the system loads the qemu drivers and the gplpv drivers at > > > the > > > > > same time you will get massive HD corruption (should not be a big deal > > > > with > > > > > a snapshot). However, for the record, I am shooting in the dark on all > > > > > counts here (I haven''t suggested anything I wouldn''t try, but that > > > doesn''t > > > > > mean I haven''t suggested some things others wouldn''t recommend trying), > > > so > > > > > don''t get your hopes up. Unless removing the 0.9.10 drivers was done > > > via > > > > a > > > > > method other than reverting to a backup/snapshot (you said removing them > > > > via > > > > > device manager and it has always taken more steps than that) or the > > > > drivers > > > > > and their installation methods changed quite a bit between 0.9.10 and > > > > > 0.9.11-pre11 (assuming you didn''t get the same error on 0.9.10), the > > > error > > > > > ending in "but can''t find the device itself" might ultimately have > > > > something > > > > > to do with your environment (for instance, perhaps your version of > > > Windows > > > > > is different or there is an issue with your version of debian). I think > > > > > James usually spends more time dealing with his drivers and the list on > > > > > weekends, so it might be a few days or a couple weeks before you hear > > > much > > > > > from him, but unless you luck out somehow, that''s probably what it will > > > > > take. > > > > > Finally, as an aside, regarding your thread on the performance of > > > > > the GPLPV drivers, it surprises me that your users haven''t complained > > > > about > > > > > performance with qemu drivers, they must be easy to please. The > > > > difference > > > > > is most certainly noticeable and worth the trouble. > > > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > > > Biesen > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 04:47 > > > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > > > > > > > reverting is a matter of seconds, as I am running my domU on a lvm > > > > snapshot > > > > > volume. > > > > > > > > > > I tried installing again. When I got the new hardware windows, I did > > > > > nothing, but they did nog go away. So I hit cancel on every one. > > > > > > > > > > In the device manager, the xen devices still had the exclamation mark. > > > > > > > > > > I then added the /gplpv line in the boot.ini and rebooted. This worked > > > > fine > > > > > ! But windows still didn''t use the xen drivers ( no change in the > > > counters > > > > > in xm top ). The drivers still have the exclamation mark and every time > > > I > > > > > reboot I get all the "new hardware" windows again and again. > > > > > > > > > > I had installed the 0.9.10 drivers last week, this made windows hang, > > > but > > > > > the counters in xm top did go up. > > > > > > > > > > I removed all faulty drivers from the device manager and rebooted. When > > > I > > > > > then look at the devices, no drivers are installed. I then installed > > > them > > > > > one by one and get error : > > > > > > > > > > " Windows has loaded the driver in memory, but can''t find the device > > > > itself > > > > > ( code 41 )" ( this is a translation from dutch ) > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > > > > > On Monday 18 August 2008 17:32:37 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > > > > I don''t remember what version this applies to, but at one point, > > > > > when > > > > > > installing, I was going through the "new hardware" windows and letting > > > > > > > > > Windows install the drivers automatically. I had problems when I did > > > > > this. > > > > > > After recovering to a pre GPLPV-installed environment, I ran the > > > > > > installer again and let it deal with these windows. They eventually > > > > > > disappeared without me even clicking next and then everything worked > > > > > > great. I tried this because that is how some Windows driver > > > > > > installers work (i.e. most mainboard RealTek sound drivers). However, > > > > > > > > > this may not help you, as this may have been with an installer for a > > > > > > previous version that didn''t have the "the device is not plugged in, > > > > > > cannot update driver" error, which I believe was added to prevent > > > > > confusion when upgrading from one version to another. > > > > > > Hopefully someone else can come back with more/better information, but > > > > > > > > > in the meantime, odds are that you''ll need to get to a pre > > > > > > GPLPV-installed state (restore from backup) and try again, so if > > > > > > getting back to that state is easy and you want to try the install > > > > > > again before anyone else responds, just don''t interfere with the parts > > > > > > > > > of the install that look like they need manual intervention for a > > > while > > > > > and see what happens. Good luck, > > > > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > > > > > Biesen > > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 09:05 > > > > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > > > Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > > > > Windows XP > > > > > > SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the > > > > > > 2.6.18 xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a 32bit > > > > > > > > > windows xp using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and disk > > > io > > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework. > > > > > > > > > > > > I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the > > > > > > 0.9.11pre11 and installed it. > > > > > > > > > > > > While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannot update > > > > > > > > > driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows > > > > > > complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of > > > > > > its own ''high'' standard ). After installation, I get several "new > > > > > hardware" windows. > > > > > > I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpv > > > drivers > > > > ). > > > > > > > > > > > > I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the > > > > > > device manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all have a > > > > > > exclamation mark on them. The only xen device working without problems > > > > > > > > > is "xen pci device driver". > > > > > > > > > > > > All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free > > > > > > resources ( its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ). > > > > > > > > > > > > When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get > > > > > > een BSOD on Mup.sys. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here''s my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu > > > > > > stuff in the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ? ): > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader" > > > > > > builder=''hvm'' > > > > > > memory = 512 > > > > > > name = "windows2" > > > > > > disk = [ > > > > > > ''phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w'',''file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9 > > > > > > FMQ3-F > > > > > > RVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r'',''file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r'' > > > > > > , ] vif = [ ''bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01'', ] device_model = > > > > > > ''/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm'' > > > > > > > > > > > > boot=''cd'' > > > > > > sdl=0 > > > > > > vnc=1 > > > > > > vnclisten="0.0.0.0" > > > > > > vncunused=1 > > > > > > acpi=1 > > > > > > apic=0 > > > > > > pae=1 > > > > > > usb = 1 > > > > > > usbdevice = ''tablet'' > > > > > > #serial="pty" > > > > > > ---------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Peter Van Biesen > > > > > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > > > > > > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > > > > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > > > > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > > > > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Peter Van Biesen > > > > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > > > > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > > > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > > > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > > > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Nemeth, Tamas
2008-Oct-01 14:18 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] SOLVED Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
I''ve forgotten to give you the URL of the report: http://bugzilla.xensource.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1363 2008. 10. 1, szerda keltezéssel 15.01-kor Peter Van Biesen ezt írta:> Hi all, > > I saw a message on the list yesterday saying the gplpv driver could have a problem with lvm. I tried the gplpv driver without lvm and all works perfectly ! > > Kindest regards, > > Peter. > > On Wednesday 27 August 2008 12:29:35 Peter Van Biesen wrote: > > Hi Dustin, > > > > I used a windows XP with SP2 EN to reinstall my domu. I installed the 0.9.11pre13 package, this produces the same errors as with my other windows XP version. I also tried the 0.9.10 version, which produced also the same results. > > > > I''m at a loss here. Apparently the problem isn''t the windows version. > > > > My collegue-vmware specialist is laughing his ass off at the moment :-( . > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > Peter. > > > > On Friday 22 August 2008 17:38:14 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > Peter, > > > Regarding installing SP1a and SP2, it may be possible to go directly > > > to SP2 (unless you are referring to.net 2.0 service packs and not WinXP > > > service packs), but I don''t remember for sure, and this wouldn''t affect your > > > problem, it''s just a thought for future reference. > > > It is possible that the drivers don''t work with your version of > > > Windows, and that seems more likely than them not working with host setup, > > > but I don''t know enough about either to say so definitively. It seems to me > > > like WinXP would work and be built the same for Dutch and English, as I > > > would think it would only be drastically different for extended languages > > > (like Chinese) and countries that have US export restrictions on encryption > > > or something, but I really don''t know. I can also tell you that I tried > > > several versions (either I started at 0.8.9, or 0.8.9 was the first version > > > that worked at all in my environment, so I deleted all previous ones) before > > > it worked for me. During that time, other people were using the drivers > > > successfully, so when 0.9.11 is no longer pre, and when 0.9.12 et all come > > > out, I would try again. That said, perhaps James can work with you on > > > getting an existing version to work, as determining what is causing your > > > problem may help in resolving other issues as well. > > > Dustin > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Biesen > > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 07:27 > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > > > an update : > > > > > > - I reinstalled windows XP > > > - added SP1a an SP2 ( this is necessary for .net 2.0 ) > > > > > > On a snapshot, I installed 0.9.11pre12. All drivers have an exclamation > > > mark. > > > > > > I reverted to SP2 and installed 0.9.10. Windows hangs on the splash screen. > > > > > > The only thing I can conclude is that the gplpv drivers do not work with my > > > specific version of windows xp. Is it because it is a dutch version ? A > > > specific build ? Is this possible ( I''m a complete windows novice ) ? > > > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > On Wednesday 20 August 2008 14:48:10 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > > Peter, > > > > I would most definitely try rebuilding if you have the time. It is > > > > possible that following the cleanup steps from the wiki might work, but I > > > > never had much luck with them. After a rebuild, I would set up a > > > snapshot, > > > > try 0.9.10 again, and wait for the add new hardware windows to disappear > > > (I > > > > don''t know if this should happen in 0.9.11-preX as well or not), hopefully > > > > at this point, all of the drivers work. The xenvbd driver is the disk > > > > driver, so if it isn''t working right, it''s no wonder the system locks up > > > and > > > > goes to 100% CPU, xenhide is preventing Windows from seeing the qemu > > > > disk(s), and the driver for the xen ones (xenvbd) isn''t working. If the > > > > same problem were encountered, I would drop changes from the snapshot, try > > > > the new 0.9.11-pre12, and respond to the thread about it with any problems > > > > and a brief history of your experience thus far (dutch Windows, version of > > > > Debian, version of Xen, versions of GPLPV tried, issues encountered). He > > > > may have some more insight on Debian, or he may be able to gather > > > additional > > > > information to potentially test or fix your problem if it is related to > > > the > > > > Dutch version [I am assuming it is a fully different version, but > > > truthfully > > > > I don''t know whether it''s the same version with a language pack or a > > > > different version, and neither would surprise me]). Good luck, > > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > > Biesen > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 05:45 > > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > > > > > I found this thread too and I tried without the cdrom devices already. > > > This > > > > makes no difference. > > > > > > > > I reverted and installed the 0.9.10. I only get "the device was not > > > plugged > > > > in" error twice now. The devices still have an exclamation mark in the > > > > device manager but the "add new hardware" dialog does disappear after a > > > > while. After reboot, windows seems to hang on the splash screen. I then > > > > disabled usb ( this is sometimes an issue when hanging on mup.sys ), and > > > now > > > > the screen goes black and the domu uses 100% CPU. At the third reboot, I > > > > select safe mode and behold - windows boots. > > > > > > > > When looking in the device manager, only the xen vbd driver had an > > > > exclamation mark. The network drivers seems to work ( I had now some 10 > > > > network devices ). I disabled the vdb driver and rebooted. Again a hang on > > > a > > > > black screen. > > > > > > > > So, basically, after installation of the driver, the only way to get > > > windows > > > > back online is to > > > > 1) disable usb > > > > 2) boot in safe mode > > > > > > > > Maybe I should completely reinstall windows xp ? > > > > > > > > Concerning performance : I pick my users carefully. First migrate users > > > who > > > > only use mail, browser and occasionally office. They do not need much > > > > diskperformance, in fact, they do not even know if an application is > > > running > > > > on their pc or on the network ( browser ). Once you have a userbase that > > > is > > > > satisfied with the performance, migrate a somewhat heavier user. If he > > > > complains, you can tell him : look, there are 10 users happy why you''re > > > not > > > > ? This buys you some time to figure the problem out en gets the user off > > > > your back. This is where I''m now. > > > > > > > > Never ever start with power users !! It is my experience that most of the > > > > userbase don''t care where or how their OS is running - even 3/4 of our > > > > developers don''t care, as long as the performance is ok. For the 1/4 > > > > developers who do care, don''t bitch and just give them a standalone > > > machine. > > > > It is really a win-win situation with xen, we have the control over the > > > > hardware while they have control over their windows game console ... er OS > > > > *cough* :-) . > > > > > > > > But definitely need the gplpv drivers to work if I am to migrate most of > > > my > > > > users. > > > > > > > > Anyway, thanks for the advise. > > > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 19 August 2008 14:50:19 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > > > Peter, > > > > > OK, first and foremost, I think I forgot to mention this thread in > > > > > my last response: > > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00428.html > > > > > I bring it up now because I looked over your config again and noticed > > > the > > > > > two CD-ROM drives. It may be that you need to get rid of them as this > > > may > > > > > be a new problem with 0.9.11-pre11 (if you really need those images > > > > mounted > > > > > in Windows, you might be able to use something like Elby Virtual Clone > > > > Drive > > > > > [http://elby.ch/fun/software/index.html] to mount those images from > > > within > > > > > the domU, but I don''t know if this can be done automatically [might > > > > require > > > > > manual remount after each reboot]). > > > > > I haven''t even messed with 0.9.11-preX, I am running 0.9.10. Seeing > > > > > as how you had problems with it, my only thought is that if the > > > installer > > > > > changed for 0.9.11-pre11 vs 0.9.10, you might revert again and try > > > 0.9.10 > > > > to > > > > > see if the add new hardware windows disappear on their own given a bit > > > of > > > > > time. I know I''ve had hanging like that in the past with previous > > > > versions, > > > > > and it seems like in some cases waiting long enough would make it work > > > > > (though not necessarily with the performance the drivers are supposed to > > > > > provide) and in others I had to restore (or rebuild) Windows, and try > > > > again, > > > > > as it used to (and may still) be absolutely crucial that the drivers are > > > > > installed on a clean system, but I honestly don''t remember all the > > > details > > > > > here. Alternatively, since 0.9.10 caused your system to hang, you might > > > > try > > > > > the suggestion mentioned here on 0.9.11-pre11 (even though the issue > > > being > > > > > resolved appears to be unrelated and has potentially been solved in > > > > pre11): > > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00203.html > > > > > I think the risk with doing that (disabling the xenhide.sys driver) > > > > > is that if the system loads the qemu drivers and the gplpv drivers at > > > the > > > > > same time you will get massive HD corruption (should not be a big deal > > > > with > > > > > a snapshot). However, for the record, I am shooting in the dark on all > > > > > counts here (I haven''t suggested anything I wouldn''t try, but that > > > doesn''t > > > > > mean I haven''t suggested some things others wouldn''t recommend trying), > > > so > > > > > don''t get your hopes up. Unless removing the 0.9.10 drivers was done > > > via > > > > a > > > > > method other than reverting to a backup/snapshot (you said removing them > > > > via > > > > > device manager and it has always taken more steps than that) or the > > > > drivers > > > > > and their installation methods changed quite a bit between 0.9.10 and > > > > > 0.9.11-pre11 (assuming you didn''t get the same error on 0.9.10), the > > > error > > > > > ending in "but can''t find the device itself" might ultimately have > > > > something > > > > > to do with your environment (for instance, perhaps your version of > > > Windows > > > > > is different or there is an issue with your version of debian). I think > > > > > James usually spends more time dealing with his drivers and the list on > > > > > weekends, so it might be a few days or a couple weeks before you hear > > > much > > > > > from him, but unless you luck out somehow, that''s probably what it will > > > > > take. > > > > > Finally, as an aside, regarding your thread on the performance of > > > > > the GPLPV drivers, it surprises me that your users haven''t complained > > > > about > > > > > performance with qemu drivers, they must be easy to please. The > > > > difference > > > > > is most certainly noticeable and worth the trouble. > > > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > > > Biesen > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 04:47 > > > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > > > Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dustin, > > > > > > > > > > reverting is a matter of seconds, as I am running my domU on a lvm > > > > snapshot > > > > > volume. > > > > > > > > > > I tried installing again. When I got the new hardware windows, I did > > > > > nothing, but they did nog go away. So I hit cancel on every one. > > > > > > > > > > In the device manager, the xen devices still had the exclamation mark. > > > > > > > > > > I then added the /gplpv line in the boot.ini and rebooted. This worked > > > > fine > > > > > ! But windows still didn''t use the xen drivers ( no change in the > > > counters > > > > > in xm top ). The drivers still have the exclamation mark and every time > > > I > > > > > reboot I get all the "new hardware" windows again and again. > > > > > > > > > > I had installed the 0.9.10 drivers last week, this made windows hang, > > > but > > > > > the counters in xm top did go up. > > > > > > > > > > I removed all faulty drivers from the device manager and rebooted. When > > > I > > > > > then look at the devices, no drivers are installed. I then installed > > > them > > > > > one by one and get error : > > > > > > > > > > " Windows has loaded the driver in memory, but can''t find the device > > > > itself > > > > > ( code 41 )" ( this is a translation from dutch ) > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > > > > > On Monday 18 August 2008 17:32:37 Dustin Henning wrote: > > > > > > I don''t remember what version this applies to, but at one point, > > > > > when > > > > > > installing, I was going through the "new hardware" windows and letting > > > > > > > > > Windows install the drivers automatically. I had problems when I did > > > > > this. > > > > > > After recovering to a pre GPLPV-installed environment, I ran the > > > > > > installer again and let it deal with these windows. They eventually > > > > > > disappeared without me even clicking next and then everything worked > > > > > > great. I tried this because that is how some Windows driver > > > > > > installers work (i.e. most mainboard RealTek sound drivers). However, > > > > > > > > > this may not help you, as this may have been with an installer for a > > > > > > previous version that didn''t have the "the device is not plugged in, > > > > > > cannot update driver" error, which I believe was added to prevent > > > > > confusion when upgrading from one version to another. > > > > > > Hopefully someone else can come back with more/better information, but > > > > > > > > > in the meantime, odds are that you''ll need to get to a pre > > > > > > GPLPV-installed state (restore from backup) and try again, so if > > > > > > getting back to that state is easy and you want to try the install > > > > > > again before anyone else responds, just don''t interfere with the parts > > > > > > > > > of the install that look like they need manual intervention for a > > > while > > > > > and see what happens. Good luck, > > > > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > > > > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van > > > > > > Biesen > > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 09:05 > > > > > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > > > Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running > > > > > > Windows XP > > > > > > SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the > > > > > > 2.6.18 xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a 32bit > > > > > > > > > windows xp using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and disk > > > io > > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework. > > > > > > > > > > > > I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the > > > > > > 0.9.11pre11 and installed it. > > > > > > > > > > > > While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannot update > > > > > > > > > driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows > > > > > > complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of > > > > > > its own ''high'' standard ). After installation, I get several "new > > > > > hardware" windows. > > > > > > I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpv > > > drivers > > > > ). > > > > > > > > > > > > I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the > > > > > > device manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all have a > > > > > > exclamation mark on them. The only xen device working without problems > > > > > > > > > is "xen pci device driver". > > > > > > > > > > > > All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free > > > > > > resources ( its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ). > > > > > > > > > > > > When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get > > > > > > een BSOD on Mup.sys. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here''s my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu > > > > > > stuff in the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ? ): > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader" > > > > > > builder=''hvm'' > > > > > > memory = 512 > > > > > > name = "windows2" > > > > > > disk = [ > > > > > > ''phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w'',''file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9 > > > > > > FMQ3-F > > > > > > RVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r'',''file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r'' > > > > > > , ] vif = [ ''bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01'', ] device_model = > > > > > > ''/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm'' > > > > > > > > > > > > boot=''cd'' > > > > > > sdl=0 > > > > > > vnc=1 > > > > > > vnclisten="0.0.0.0" > > > > > > vncunused=1 > > > > > > acpi=1 > > > > > > apic=0 > > > > > > pae=1 > > > > > > usb = 1 > > > > > > usbdevice = ''tablet'' > > > > > > #serial="pty" > > > > > > ---------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Peter Van Biesen > > > > > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > > > > > > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > > > > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > > > > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > > > > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Peter Van Biesen > > > > > Sysadmin VAPH > > > > > > > > > > tel: +32 (0) 2 225 85 70 > > > > > fax: +32 (0) 2 225 85 88 > > > > > e-mail: peter.vanbiesen@vaph.be > > > > > PGP: http://www.vaph.be/pgpkeys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users