Hi I have a Athlon X2 6000+ 64bit, xen 3.2.1 64bit with about 1.0 - 1.5 GB memory left. Dom0 is ubuntu hardy. Other domUs are not cpu intensive. All domUs are linux paravirt with block devices on LVM so far. Now I want to try one of Windows 2003 R2 Server or Windows 2008 Server. Can I expect Windows 2008 to run smoothly on this machine or should I step back up 2003 ? 1. Can someone recommend me a link to a installation tutorial? 2. I only have network access to that machine, no physical access and there is no X in the dom0. Will this be a problem? 3. Can I use LVM partitions for this? 4. Any other hint? Regards, Steffen _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
One more question: Should/Can I use Windows with 32 or 64 bit? (dom0 is 64bit) Regards, Steffen> -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of > Steffen Heil > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:11 PM > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: [Xen-users] Windows 2003 and 2008 > > Hi > > I have a Athlon X2 6000+ 64bit, xen 3.2.1 64bit with about > 1.0 - 1.5 GB memory left. Dom0 is ubuntu hardy. > Other domUs are not cpu intensive. All domUs are linux > paravirt with block devices on LVM so far. > > Now I want to try one of Windows 2003 R2 Server or Windows > 2008 Server. > Can I expect Windows 2008 to run smoothly on this machine or > should I step back up 2003 ? > > 1. Can someone recommend me a link to a installation tutorial? > > 2. I only have network access to that machine, no physical > access and there is no X in the dom0. Will this be a problem? > > 3. Can I use LVM partitions for this? > > 4. Any other hint? > > Regards, > Steffen > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
>Should/Can I use Windows with 32 or 64 bit? >(dom0 is 64bit)Should - If you need the memory capabilities or your software requires it. You don''t have enough ram to exceed what a 32bit version of windows can allot anyway. Can - Yes.> Now I want to try one of Windows 2003 R2 Server or Windows > 2008 Server. > Can I expect Windows 2008 to run smoothly on this machine or should I > step back up 2003 ?Try it... I haven''t checked whether or not your CPU supports running hvm''s (I don''t use amd). The pdf I point you to below explains how to check. I think it''s a bit of a moving target currently as to whether or not it works well. I believe once the effort at pv drivers gets us to a stable first release it will run very well. I have a small commercial xen server running windows hvm''s in production well.> 1. Can someone recommend me a link to a installation tutorial?PDF in the wiki. http://www.xensource.com/files/xen_install_windows.pdf> 2. I only have network access to that machine, no physical access and > there is no X in the dom0. Will this be a problem?Never even ran a Linux server with a gui yet, so I would say no :)> 3. Can I use LVM partitions for this?Yes, its how I do it just for the management capacity it provides.> 4. Any other hint?Just try it, and post back with questions as they arise. jlc _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi> >Should/Can I use Windows with 32 or 64 bit? > Can - Yes.Ok, then I will use 32bit. Just wanted to be sure that this works, as 32bit paravirt linux does not work on 64bit hypervisor and I want to use the GPL drivers for windows.> Try it... I haven''t checked whether or not your CPU supports > running hvm''s (I don''t use amd).Obviously, it does: xen_caps : xen-3.0-x86_64 xen-3.0-x86_32p hvm-3.0-x86_32 hvm-3.0-x86_32p hvm-3.0-x86_64> > 1. Can someone recommend me a link to a installation tutorial? > PDF in the wiki. > http://www.xensource.com/files/xen_install_windows.pdfGreate starting point. Didn''t know. Thanks.> > 2. I only have network access to that machine, no physical > > access and > > there is no X in the dom0. Will this be a problem? > Never even ran a Linux server with a gui yet, so I would say no :)The pdf does not say anything, what to do if I have no GUI. Can you give me a hint here? Regards, Steffen _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
>Ok, then I will use 32bit. Just wanted to be sure that this works, as 32bit >paravirt linux does not work on 64bit hypervisor and I want to use the GPL >drivers for windows.You sure about that? http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenFaq#head-5f7176b3909cb0382cece43a6a8fc25a3a114e93>The pdf does not say anything, what to do if I have no GUI. Can you give me >a hint here?Read it closely. It shows a procedure for doing this *without* a GUI. Copy the config, tweak it to match your net/storage needs, then start it as it says, "At an su command prompt type...". jlc _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi> >Ok, then I will use 32bit. Just wanted to be sure that this > works, as > >32bit paravirt linux does not work on 64bit hypervisor and I want to > >use the GPL drivers for windows. > > You sure about that? > http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenFaq#head-5f7176b3909cb038 > 2cece43a6a8fc25a3a114e93Actually, I was quite sure from some discussions on the list. But obviously this information was out-dated. Just tried it and it works GREAT ! Thanks for that hint.> Read it closely. It shows a procedure for doing this *without* a GUI. > Copy the config, tweak it to match your net/storage needs, > then start it as it says, "At an su command prompt type...".It opens a SDL window. That does require a GUI, doesn''t it? Regards, Steffen _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users- > bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Steffen Heil > Sent: woensdag 2 juli 2008 10:10 > To: ''Joseph L. Casale''; xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Windows 2003 and 2008 > > Hi > > > >Ok, then I will use 32bit. Just wanted to be sure that this > > works, as > > >32bit paravirt linux does not work on 64bit hypervisor and I want to > > >use the GPL drivers for windows. > > > > You sure about that? > > http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenFaq#head-5f7176b3909cb038 > > 2cece43a6a8fc25a3a114e93 > > Actually, I was quite sure from some discussions on the list. > But obviously this information was out-dated. > > Just tried it and it works GREAT ! > > Thanks for that hint. > > > > Read it closely. It shows a procedure for doing this *without* a GUI. > > Copy the config, tweak it to match your net/storage needs, > > then start it as it says, "At an su command prompt type...". > > It opens a SDL window. That does require a GUI, doesn''t it? > > Regards, > SteffenYou can use X forwarding for that. If you are running windows, check Xming. If you are running linux, you''ll have all the tools you need (look at ssh -X). _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi> > It opens a SDL window. That does require a GUI, doesn''t it? > > > > Regards, > > Steffen > > You can use X forwarding for that. If you are running > windows, check Xming. If you are running linux, you''ll have > all the tools you need (look at ssh -X).I tried. However I get the following in the logs. Any idea how to solve that? Reagrds, Steffen Strip off blktap sub-type prefix to /root/w2k3.iso Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/49/logdirty/next-active Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/49/command bridge xenbr100 does not exist! =======================| DirectFB 1.0.1 |====================== (c) 2001-2007 The DirectFB Organization (directfb.org) (c) 2000-2004 Convergence (integrated media) GmbH ------------------------------------------------------------ (*) DirectFB/Core: Single Application Core. (2008-04-08 15:15) (*) Direct/Memcpy: Using Generic 64bit memcpy() (!) Direct/Util: opening ''/dev/fb0'' and ''/dev/fb/0'' failed --> No such file or directory (!) DirectFB/FBDev: Error opening framebuffer device! (!) DirectFB/FBDev: Use ''fbdev'' option or set FRAMEBUFFER environment variable. (!) DirectFB/Core: Could not initialize ''system'' core! --> Initialization error! Could not initialize SDL - exiting For the following configuration: kernel = ''/usr/lib/xen/boot/hvmloader'' builder = ''hvm'' memory = ''512'' device_model=''/usr/lib/xen/bin/qemu-dm'' disk = [ ''phy:/dev/raid/windows,ioemu:hda,w'',''tap:aio:/root/w2k3.iso,ioemu:hdc:cdrom, r'' ] #disk = [ ''phy:/dev/raid/windows,ioemu:hda,w'' ] #cdrom = ''/root/w2k3.iso'' name = ''windows'' vif = [''type=ioemu,mac=00:16:3e:00:00:08,ip=78.46.250.160/32''] boot=''d'' vnc=0 sdl=1 stdvga=1 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
I''m not a native to Linux and haven''t really used it that much, but I never had any luck with X forwarding. Also, I believe SDL is resource intensive. I recommend you set up your HVM DomU to use VNC instead of SDL. At that point, the vncserver in your Dom0 will function similar to the way an IPvM functions and you will be able to access your server through there. This obviously will require the vncserver to exist and be properly configured (I use F8 with xen from F8 repos and this is all automatic, so I can''t help you with custom configuration for that). It will also require you to have the appropriate port open on the Dom0 network to the machine you want to connect through vnc from. I think you want to set the tablet usbdevice up as well, because otherwise the mouse will be a pain. Regardless, once you can get in through VNC, you can enable remote desktop, then you can close vnc back up and connect directly to the domu that way. However, you will still need to use vnc if you need to access the boot menu because of the GPLPV drivers orto try to get at safe mode or something. Hope this helps, Dustin -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Steffen Heil Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 08:44 To: ''Jeroen Torrekens''; xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Windows 2003 and 2008 Hi> > It opens a SDL window. That does require a GUI, doesn''t it? > > > > Regards, > > Steffen > > You can use X forwarding for that. If you are running windows, check > Xming. If you are running linux, you''ll have all the tools you need > (look at ssh -X).I tried. However I get the following in the logs. Any idea how to solve that? Reagrds, Steffen Strip off blktap sub-type prefix to /root/w2k3.iso Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/49/logdirty/next-active Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/49/command bridge xenbr100 does not exist! =======================| DirectFB 1.0.1 |====================== (c) 2001-2007 The DirectFB Organization (directfb.org) (c) 2000-2004 Convergence (integrated media) GmbH ------------------------------------------------------------ (*) DirectFB/Core: Single Application Core. (2008-04-08 15:15) (*) Direct/Memcpy: Using Generic 64bit memcpy() (!) Direct/Util: opening ''/dev/fb0'' and ''/dev/fb/0'' failed --> No such file or directory (!) DirectFB/FBDev: Error opening framebuffer device! (!) DirectFB/FBDev: Use ''fbdev'' option or set FRAMEBUFFER environment variable. (!) DirectFB/Core: Could not initialize ''system'' core! --> Initialization error! Could not initialize SDL - exiting For the following configuration: kernel = ''/usr/lib/xen/boot/hvmloader'' builder = ''hvm'' memory = ''512'' device_model=''/usr/lib/xen/bin/qemu-dm'' disk = [ ''phy:/dev/raid/windows,ioemu:hda,w'',''tap:aio:/root/w2k3.iso,ioemu:hdc:cdrom, r'' ] #disk = [ ''phy:/dev/raid/windows,ioemu:hda,w'' ] #cdrom = ''/root/w2k3.iso'' name = ''windows'' vif = [''type=ioemu,mac=00:16:3e:00:00:08,ip=78.46.250.160/32''] boot=''d'' vnc=0 sdl=1 stdvga=1 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
I didn''t see the new thread on the same issue... The config sent by Fajar A. Nugraha includes these lines: sdl=0 # this disables sdl vnc=1 # this enables vnc vnclisten="0.0.0.0" # this tells vnc to allow connections on all IPs instead of only loopback connections, remember, it is dom0 doing the vnc, not domU vncpasswd='''' # this allows connections to the appropriate vnc port with no password, or a password can be entered There may be another line that binds the machine to a specific vnc port, but I don''t have access to my configs to tell you what it is. It would be in the xmexample.hvm in /etc/xen if you have one there. It MIGHT be vncportwhere 0 means automatic and 1+ tells which port (590x where 1+=x), but I am not certain, as the vncport part was just a guess. I have also seen instances where the whole port has to be entered (5901 or whatever), but I don''t know whether that was in the xml configs or something totally different. Dustin -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Dustin Henning Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 08:55 To: ''Steffen Heil''; ''Jeroen Torrekens''; xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Windows 2003 and 2008 I''m not a native to Linux and haven''t really used it that much, but I never had any luck with X forwarding. Also, I believe SDL is resource intensive. I recommend you set up your HVM DomU to use VNC instead of SDL. At that point, the vncserver in your Dom0 will function similar to the way an IPvM functions and you will be able to access your server through there. This obviously will require the vncserver to exist and be properly configured (I use F8 with xen from F8 repos and this is all automatic, so I can''t help you with custom configuration for that). It will also require you to have the appropriate port open on the Dom0 network to the machine you want to connect through vnc from. I think you want to set the tablet usbdevice up as well, because otherwise the mouse will be a pain. Regardless, once you can get in through VNC, you can enable remote desktop, then you can close vnc back up and connect directly to the domu that way. However, you will still need to use vnc if you need to access the boot menu because of the GPLPV drivers orto try to get at safe mode or something. Hope this helps, Dustin -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Steffen Heil Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 08:44 To: ''Jeroen Torrekens''; xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Windows 2003 and 2008 Hi> > It opens a SDL window. That does require a GUI, doesn''t it? > > > > Regards, > > Steffen > > You can use X forwarding for that. If you are running windows, check > Xming. If you are running linux, you''ll have all the tools you need > (look at ssh -X).I tried. However I get the following in the logs. Any idea how to solve that? Reagrds, Steffen Strip off blktap sub-type prefix to /root/w2k3.iso Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/49/logdirty/next-active Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/49/command bridge xenbr100 does not exist! =======================| DirectFB 1.0.1 |====================== (c) 2001-2007 The DirectFB Organization (directfb.org) (c) 2000-2004 Convergence (integrated media) GmbH ------------------------------------------------------------ (*) DirectFB/Core: Single Application Core. (2008-04-08 15:15) (*) Direct/Memcpy: Using Generic 64bit memcpy() (!) Direct/Util: opening ''/dev/fb0'' and ''/dev/fb/0'' failed --> No such file or directory (!) DirectFB/FBDev: Error opening framebuffer device! (!) DirectFB/FBDev: Use ''fbdev'' option or set FRAMEBUFFER environment variable. (!) DirectFB/Core: Could not initialize ''system'' core! --> Initialization error! Could not initialize SDL - exiting For the following configuration: kernel = ''/usr/lib/xen/boot/hvmloader'' builder = ''hvm'' memory = ''512'' device_model=''/usr/lib/xen/bin/qemu-dm'' disk = [ ''phy:/dev/raid/windows,ioemu:hda,w'',''tap:aio:/root/w2k3.iso,ioemu:hdc:cdrom, r'' ] #disk = [ ''phy:/dev/raid/windows,ioemu:hda,w'' ] #cdrom = ''/root/w2k3.iso'' name = ''windows'' vif = [''type=ioemu,mac=00:16:3e:00:00:08,ip=78.46.250.160/32''] boot=''d'' vnc=0 sdl=1 stdvga=1 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users