Hi,>This machine is currently getting very little traffic (because it is being set up). >After some time of no activity, it refuses to talk to me from home (ping, ssh, http, anything ..) > However, talking to it from another server on the local subnet works fine.>A lot of debugging seems to indicate that the interface "forgets" it IP address after nobody talked to it for a whileI''m experiencing the exact same problem .. inserting "pings" into crontab mostly fixes it, but occasionally it still gets lost. Has anyone else seen anything like this or can anyone point me in the right direction? tia Gareth. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> Hi, > > >This machine is currently getting very little traffic (because it > is being set up). > >After some time of no activity, it refuses to talk to me from home > (ping, ssh, http, anything ..) > >However, talking to it from another server on the local subnet > works fine. > > >A lot of debugging seems to indicate that the interface "forgets" > it IP address after nobody talked to it for a whileIs the machine answering ARP replies? Does the upstream router have the IP & MAC in its ARP table? Does the upstream switch have the MAC in its mac-address-table? Assigned to the correct port? Sounds to me like an ARP timeout problem. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
>Is the machine answering ARP replies?Honestly, I don''t know .. the machine tends to lock up for other reasons when it dies hence it''s not easy to track ..>Does the upstream router have the IP & MAC in its ARP table? >Does the upstream switch have the MAC in its mac-address-table? >Assigned to the correct port?>Sounds to me like an ARP timeout problem.This occurs between DomU''s and Dom0 in addition to external addresses ... so I don''t think it''s linked to anything outside of Xen .. I''ve experienced the same problem on 4 different machines, all different HW config .. so again I think faulty HW is out. For what it''s worth; I''m using Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10) with the stock Xen 3.1 kernel all on AMD64 and Intel/Xeon machines all running 64 bit kernels and distros. All machines are using bridging with two physical ethernet ports. All DomU''s are running two matching virtual ports. I''m using IPTABLES (firehol) fairly heavily for port filtering. Typically the DomU''s are mounting a network filesystem off Dom0 using a 10.0.0.x address range .. at random intervals, 10.0.0.1 (Dom0) vanishes, the DomU fails to read/write the filesystem and the whole thing goes to pot. BUT, if I''m not watching it, the system itself recovers the IP and carries on .. but by then the DomU''s are in such a state I don''t get much sense out of it. :( _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
>> Is the machine answering ARP replies? > > Honestly, I don''t know .. the machine tends to lock up for other > reasons when it dies hence it''s not easy to track .. > >> Does the upstream router have the IP & MAC in its ARP table? >> Does the upstream switch have the MAC in its mac-address-table? >> Assigned to the correct port? > >> Sounds to me like an ARP timeout problem. > > This occurs between DomU''s and Dom0 in addition to external > addresses ... so I don''t think it''s linked to anything outside of > Xen .. I''ve experienced the same problem on 4 different machines, > all different HW config .. so again I think faulty HW is out. > > For what it''s worth; > > I''m using Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10) with the stock Xen 3.1 kernel all on > AMD64 and Intel/Xeon machines all running 64 bit kernels and distros. > > All machines are using bridging with two physical ethernet ports. > All DomU''s are running two matching virtual ports. > I''m using IPTABLES (firehol) fairly heavily for port filtering.Bridging is Layer2, IP is Layer 3, you are having a problem at layer 3 so you need to look to make sure your layer 2 stuff is working properly. If Xen is bridging only then you won''t really have visibility into the Layer 3 problem from Dom0. You could look at the bridging config and see if it knows about the MAC address properly in the switch. At some point upstream from the Xen hardware you have another Layer 3 device, most likely a router. You need to get into that router and see if it has the IP -> MAC entry in its ARP table. If it doesn''t have it then there is your problem. Something is stopping the DomU from answering the ARP queries from the router. The route loses track of the MAC address and can no longer send Ethernet frames to your DomU. If your router does have the ARP entry then I would look into your switches and see if they are dropping the MAC address from their table. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Ok, I''ve managed to pin it down and you are quite right - it''s
ARP.
Now the question is, how do I fix it.
here''s what I have
Dom0 :: 10.0.0.1
DomU :: 10.0.0.12
Both machines work fine for 40 mins .. then;
DomU reports Dom0 unreachable.
Sure enough ping 10.0.0.1 gives no response.
However, ping 10.0.0.12 from Dom0 responds fine.
A one-way ping!
arp -na on Dom0 reports as expected.
arp -na on the broken DomU shows;
? (10.0.0.1) at FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF [ether] on eth0
It''s picking up FE:EE ... instead of the desired MAC address ?!
How can it do this ?!
On Dom0:
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:C5:5D:C0:BE  
          inet addr:10.0.0.1  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::215:c5ff:fe5d:c0be/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:205397 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:413848 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:41267633 (39.3 MB)  TX bytes:95050228 (90.6 MB)
On DomU:
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:10:00:00:0C  
          inet addr:10.0.0.12  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::200:10ff:fe00:c/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:6297 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:11662 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:1157351 (1.1 MB)  TX bytes:907972 (886.6 KB)
Help!
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From: "Matthew Crocker" <mcrocker@crocker.com>
To: "Gareth Bult" <gareth@encryptec.net>
Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 10:00:40 PM (GMT) Europe/London
Subject: Re: Re; [Xen-users] Ethernet has Alzheimers
>> Is the machine answering ARP replies?
>
> Honestly, I don''t know .. the machine tends to lock up for other  
> reasons when it dies hence it''s not easy to track ..
>
>> Does the upstream router have the IP & MAC in its ARP table?
>> Does the upstream switch have the MAC in its mac-address-table?
>> Assigned to the correct port?
>
>> Sounds to me like an ARP timeout problem.
>
> This occurs between DomU''s and Dom0 in addition to external  
> addresses ... so I don''t think it''s linked to anything
outside of
> Xen .. I''ve experienced the same problem on 4 different machines,
> all different HW config .. so again I think faulty HW is out.
>
> For what it''s worth;
>
> I''m using Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10) with the stock Xen 3.1 kernel all on
> AMD64 and Intel/Xeon machines all running 64 bit kernels and distros.
>
> All machines are using bridging with two physical ethernet ports.
> All DomU''s are running two matching virtual ports.
> I''m using IPTABLES (firehol) fairly heavily for port filtering.
Bridging is Layer2,  IP is Layer 3, you are having a problem at layer  
3 so you need to look to make sure your layer 2 stuff is working  
properly.
If Xen is bridging only then you won''t really have visibility into the
Layer 3 problem from Dom0.  You could look at the bridging config and  
see if it knows about the MAC address properly in the switch.   At  
some point upstream from the Xen hardware you have another Layer 3  
device,  most likely a router.  You need to get into that router and  
see if it has the IP -> MAC entry in its ARP table.  If it doesn''t  
have it then there is your problem.  Something is stopping the DomU  
from answering the ARP queries from the router.  The route loses track  
of the MAC address and can no longer send Ethernet frames to your  
DomU.  If your router does have the ARP entry then I would look into  
your switches and see if they are dropping the MAC address from their  
table.
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Wait, it gets better, on 10.0.0.12;
arp -d 10.0.0.1
tcpdump shows;
23:14:14.014725 arp who-has 10.0.0.1 tell 10.0.0.10
23:14:14.014797 arp reply 10.0.0.1 is-at fe:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
Eeeek!
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From: "Gareth Bult" <gareth@encryptec.net>
To: "Matthew Crocker" <mcrocker@crocker.com>
Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 11:11:04 PM (GMT) Europe/London
Subject: Re: Re; [Xen-users] Ethernet has Alzheimers
Ok, I''ve managed to pin it down and you are quite right - it''s
ARP.
Now the question is, how do I fix it.
here''s what I have
Dom0 :: 10.0.0.1
DomU :: 10.0.0.12
Both machines work fine for 40 mins .. then;
DomU reports Dom0 unreachable.
Sure enough ping 10.0.0.1 gives no response.
However, ping 10.0.0.12 from Dom0 responds fine.
A one-way ping!
arp -na on Dom0 reports as expected.
arp -na on the broken DomU shows;
? (10.0.0.1) at FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF [ether] on eth0
It''s picking up FE:EE ... instead of the desired MAC address ?!
How can it do this ?!
On Dom0:
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:C5:5D:C0:BE  
          inet addr:10.0.0.1  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::215:c5ff:fe5d:c0be/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:205397 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:413848 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:41267633 (39.3 MB)  TX bytes:95050228 (90.6 MB)
On DomU:
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:10:00:00:0C  
          inet addr:10.0.0.12  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::200:10ff:fe00:c/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:6297 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:11662 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:1157351 (1.1 MB)  TX bytes:907972 (886.6 KB)
Help!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Crocker" <mcrocker@crocker.com>
To: "Gareth Bult" <gareth@encryptec.net>
Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 10:00:40 PM (GMT) Europe/London
Subject: Re: Re; [Xen-users] Ethernet has Alzheimers
>> Is the machine answering ARP replies?
>
> Honestly, I don''t know .. the machine tends to lock up for other  
> reasons when it dies hence it''s not easy to track ..
>
>> Does the upstream router have the IP & MAC in its ARP table?
>> Does the upstream switch have the MAC in its mac-address-table?
>> Assigned to the correct port?
>
>> Sounds to me like an ARP timeout problem.
>
> This occurs between DomU''s and Dom0 in addition to external  
> addresses ... so I don''t think it''s linked to anything
outside of
> Xen .. I''ve experienced the same problem on 4 different machines,
> all different HW config .. so again I think faulty HW is out.
>
> For what it''s worth;
>
> I''m using Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10) with the stock Xen 3.1 kernel all on
> AMD64 and Intel/Xeon machines all running 64 bit kernels and distros.
>
> All machines are using bridging with two physical ethernet ports.
> All DomU''s are running two matching virtual ports.
> I''m using IPTABLES (firehol) fairly heavily for port filtering.
Bridging is Layer2,  IP is Layer 3, you are having a problem at layer  
3 so you need to look to make sure your layer 2 stuff is working  
properly.
If Xen is bridging only then you won''t really have visibility into the
Layer 3 problem from Dom0.  You could look at the bridging config and  
see if it knows about the MAC address properly in the switch.   At  
some point upstream from the Xen hardware you have another Layer 3  
device,  most likely a router.  You need to get into that router and  
see if it has the IP -> MAC entry in its ARP table.  If it doesn''t  
have it then there is your problem.  Something is stopping the DomU  
from answering the ARP queries from the router.  The route loses track  
of the MAC address and can no longer send Ethernet frames to your  
DomU.  If your router does have the ARP entry then I would look into  
your switches and see if they are dropping the MAC address from their  
table.
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IPTables rules blocking ARP? Is the same IP address being used by multiple hosts? If you have access to the switch you can do ''show mac-address- table'' (assuming cisco) and see what port has that MAC address. Also, FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF is not a valid MAC address, do you have something that is generating bogus MACs? FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF is the Ethernet broadcast address (frames go to all ports on the switch/ vlan). For obvious reasons you don''t want to use the Ethernet broadcast address for your machines MAC. -Matt On Jan 7, 2008, at 6:11 PM, Gareth Bult wrote:> Ok, I''ve managed to pin it down and you are quite right - it''s ARP. > > Now the question is, how do I fix it. > > here''s what I have > > Dom0 :: 10.0.0.1 > DomU :: 10.0.0.12 > > Both machines work fine for 40 mins .. then; > > DomU reports Dom0 unreachable. > Sure enough ping 10.0.0.1 gives no response. > However, ping 10.0.0.12 from Dom0 responds fine. > A one-way ping! > > arp -na on Dom0 reports as expected. > arp -na on the broken DomU shows; > ? (10.0.0.1) at FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF [ether] on eth0 > > It''s picking up FE:EE ... instead of the desired MAC address ?! > > How can it do this ?! > > On Dom0: > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:C5:5D:C0:BE > inet addr:10.0.0.1 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::215:c5ff:fe5d:c0be/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:205397 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:413848 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:41267633 (39.3 MB) TX bytes:95050228 (90.6 MB) > > On DomU: > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:10:00:00:0C > inet addr:10.0.0.12 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::200:10ff:fe00:c/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:6297 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:11662 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:1157351 (1.1 MB) TX bytes:907972 (886.6 KB) > > Help! > > > > > -- > Managing Director, Encryptec Limited > Tel: 0845 25 77033, Mob: 07853 305393, Int: 00 44 1443205756 > Email: gareth@encryptec.net > Statements made are at all times subject to Encryptec''s Terms and > Conditions of Business, which are available upon request. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Crocker" <mcrocker@crocker.com> > To: "Gareth Bult" <gareth@encryptec.net> > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 10:00:40 PM (GMT) Europe/London > Subject: Re: Re; [Xen-users] Ethernet has Alzheimers > >>> Is the machine answering ARP replies? >> >> Honestly, I don''t know .. the machine tends to lock up for other >> reasons when it dies hence it''s not easy to track .. >> >>> Does the upstream router have the IP & MAC in its ARP table? >>> Does the upstream switch have the MAC in its mac-address-table? >>> Assigned to the correct port? >> >>> Sounds to me like an ARP timeout problem. >> >> This occurs between DomU''s and Dom0 in addition to external >> addresses ... so I don''t think it''s linked to anything outside of >> Xen .. I''ve experienced the same problem on 4 different machines, >> all different HW config .. so again I think faulty HW is out. >> >> For what it''s worth; >> >> I''m using Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10) with the stock Xen 3.1 kernel all on >> AMD64 and Intel/Xeon machines all running 64 bit kernels and distros. >> >> All machines are using bridging with two physical ethernet ports. >> All DomU''s are running two matching virtual ports. >> I''m using IPTABLES (firehol) fairly heavily for port filtering. > > Bridging is Layer2, IP is Layer 3, you are having a problem at layer > 3 so you need to look to make sure your layer 2 stuff is working > properly. > > If Xen is bridging only then you won''t really have visibility into the > Layer 3 problem from Dom0. You could look at the bridging config and > see if it knows about the MAC address properly in the switch. At > some point upstream from the Xen hardware you have another Layer 3 > device, most likely a router. You need to get into that router and > see if it has the IP -> MAC entry in its ARP table. If it doesn''t > have it then there is your problem. Something is stopping the DomU > from answering the ARP queries from the router. The route loses track > of the MAC address and can no longer send Ethernet frames to your > DomU. If your router does have the ARP entry then I would look into > your switches and see if they are dropping the MAC address from their > table. > > > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> Wait, it gets better, on 10.0.0.12; > > arp -d 10.0.0.1 > > tcpdump shows; > > 23:14:14.014725 arp who-has 10.0.0.1 tell 10.0.0.10 > 23:14:14.014797 arp reply 10.0.0.1 is-at fe:ff:ff:ff:ff:ffLook at the switch and fine out what port has FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF on it and hit that machine in the head. -Matt> Eeeek! > > -- > Managing Director, Encryptec Limited > Tel: 0845 25 77033, Mob: 07853 305393, Int: 00 44 1443205756 > Email: gareth@encryptec.net > Statements made are at all times subject to Encryptec''s Terms and > Conditions of Business, which are available upon request. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gareth Bult" <gareth@encryptec.net> > To: "Matthew Crocker" <mcrocker@crocker.com> > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 11:11:04 PM (GMT) Europe/London > Subject: Re: Re; [Xen-users] Ethernet has Alzheimers > > Ok, I''ve managed to pin it down and you are quite right - it''s ARP. > > Now the question is, how do I fix it. > > here''s what I have > > Dom0 :: 10.0.0.1 > DomU :: 10.0.0.12 > > Both machines work fine for 40 mins .. then; > > DomU reports Dom0 unreachable. > Sure enough ping 10.0.0.1 gives no response. > However, ping 10.0.0.12 from Dom0 responds fine. > A one-way ping! > > arp -na on Dom0 reports as expected. > arp -na on the broken DomU shows; > ? (10.0.0.1) at FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF [ether] on eth0 > > It''s picking up FE:EE ... instead of the desired MAC address ?! > > How can it do this ?! > > On Dom0: > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:C5:5D:C0:BE > inet addr:10.0.0.1 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::215:c5ff:fe5d:c0be/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:205397 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:413848 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:41267633 (39.3 MB) TX bytes:95050228 (90.6 MB) > > On DomU: > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:10:00:00:0C > inet addr:10.0.0.12 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::200:10ff:fe00:c/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:6297 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:11662 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:1157351 (1.1 MB) TX bytes:907972 (886.6 KB) > > Help! > > > > > -- > Managing Director, Encryptec Limited > Tel: 0845 25 77033, Mob: 07853 305393, Int: 00 44 1443205756 > Email: gareth@encryptec.net > Statements made are at all times subject to Encryptec''s Terms and > Conditions of Business, which are available upon request. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Crocker" <mcrocker@crocker.com> > To: "Gareth Bult" <gareth@encryptec.net> > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 10:00:40 PM (GMT) Europe/London > Subject: Re: Re; [Xen-users] Ethernet has Alzheimers > >>> Is the machine answering ARP replies? >> >> Honestly, I don''t know .. the machine tends to lock up for other >> reasons when it dies hence it''s not easy to track .. >> >>> Does the upstream router have the IP & MAC in its ARP table? >>> Does the upstream switch have the MAC in its mac-address-table? >>> Assigned to the correct port? >> >>> Sounds to me like an ARP timeout problem. >> >> This occurs between DomU''s and Dom0 in addition to external >> addresses ... so I don''t think it''s linked to anything outside of >> Xen .. I''ve experienced the same problem on 4 different machines, >> all different HW config .. so again I think faulty HW is out. >> >> For what it''s worth; >> >> I''m using Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10) with the stock Xen 3.1 kernel all on >> AMD64 and Intel/Xeon machines all running 64 bit kernels and distros. >> >> All machines are using bridging with two physical ethernet ports. >> All DomU''s are running two matching virtual ports. >> I''m using IPTABLES (firehol) fairly heavily for port filtering. > > Bridging is Layer2, IP is Layer 3, you are having a problem at layer > 3 so you need to look to make sure your layer 2 stuff is working > properly. > > If Xen is bridging only then you won''t really have visibility into the > Layer 3 problem from Dom0. You could look at the bridging config and > see if it knows about the MAC address properly in the switch. At > some point upstream from the Xen hardware you have another Layer 3 > device, most likely a router. You need to get into that router and > see if it has the IP -> MAC entry in its ARP table. If it doesn''t > have it then there is your problem. Something is stopping the DomU > from answering the ARP queries from the router. The route loses track > of the MAC address and can no longer send Ethernet frames to your > DomU. If your router does have the ARP entry then I would look into > your switches and see if they are dropping the MAC address from their > table. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
The traffic does not leave my machine ...
Here''s my ifconfig if that helps;
0         Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00  
          inet6 addr: fe80::200:ff:fe00:0/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:468 (468.0 b)
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:C5:5D:C0:BE  
          inet addr:10.0.0.1  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::215:c5ff:fe5d:c0be/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:176328 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:301583 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:26003737 (24.7 MB)  TX bytes:488759515 (466.1 MB)
eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:C5:5D:C0:BF  
          inet addr:87.102.101.158  Bcast:87.102.101.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::215:c5ff:fe5d:c0bf/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:272976 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:559429 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:17198305 (16.4 MB)  TX bytes:249087754 (237.5 MB)
lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:79887 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:79887 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:6587300 (6.2 MB)  TX bytes:6587300 (6.2 MB)
peth0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF  
          inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:13260 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:20341 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:1038838 (1014.4 KB)  TX bytes:5661953 (5.3 MB)
          Base address:0xecc0 Memory:fe9e0000-fea00000 
peth1     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF  
          inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:846060 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:577736 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:267309371 (254.9 MB)  TX bytes:260521447 (248.4 MB)
          Base address:0xdcc0 Memory:fe5e0000-fe600000 
tun0      Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr
00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
          inet addr:10.99.0.1  P-t-P:10.99.0.2  Mask:255.255.255.255
          UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
vif0.0    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF  
          inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:301583 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:176329 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:488759515 (466.1 MB)  TX bytes:26003807 (24.7 MB)
vif0.1    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF  
          inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:559429 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:272977 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:249087754 (237.5 MB)  TX bytes:17198375 (16.4 MB)
vif4.0    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF  
          inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:164166 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:182474 errors:0 dropped:6 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:32 
          RX bytes:22467019 (21.4 MB)  TX bytes:305137759 (291.0 MB)
vif4.1    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF  
          inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:7535 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:276712 errors:0 dropped:2052 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:32 
          RX bytes:4698540 (4.4 MB)  TX bytes:23528102 (22.4 MB)
vif5.0    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF  
          inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:99546 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:108154 errors:0 dropped:9 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:32 
          RX bytes:13948995 (13.3 MB)  TX bytes:178514052 (170.2 MB)
vif5.1    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF  
          inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:4779 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:271874 errors:0 dropped:2778 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:32 
          RX bytes:2391054 (2.2 MB)  TX bytes:21580528 (20.5 MB)
vif6.0    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF  
          inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:6701 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:3462 errors:0 dropped:14 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:32 
          RX bytes:430729 (420.6 KB)  TX bytes:657222 (641.8 KB)
vif6.1    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF  
          inet6 addr: fe80::fcff:ffff:feff:ffff/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:806 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:265698 errors:0 dropped:2098 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:32 
          RX bytes:123889 (120.9 KB)  TX bytes:19099185 (18.2 MB)
xenbr0    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF  
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:98256 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:183 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:13375927 (12.7 MB)  TX bytes:7770 (7.5 KB)
xenbr1    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF  
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:825898 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:2447 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:249201663 (237.6 MB)  TX bytes:102934 (100.5 KB)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Crocker" <mcrocker@crocker.com>
To: "Gareth Bult" <gareth@encryptec.net>
Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 12:24:23 AM (GMT) Europe/London
Subject: Re: Re; [Xen-users] Ethernet has Alzheimers
> Wait, it gets better, on 10.0.0.12;
>
> arp -d 10.0.0.1
>
> tcpdump shows;
>
> 23:14:14.014725 arp who-has 10.0.0.1 tell 10.0.0.10
> 23:14:14.014797 arp reply 10.0.0.1 is-at fe:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
Look at the switch and fine out what port has FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF on it  
and hit that machine in the head.
-Matt
> Eeeek!
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gareth Bult" <gareth@encryptec.net>
> To: "Matthew Crocker" <mcrocker@crocker.com>
> Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 11:11:04 PM (GMT) Europe/London
> Subject: Re: Re; [Xen-users] Ethernet has Alzheimers
>
> Ok, I''ve managed to pin it down and you are quite right -
it''s ARP.
>
> Now the question is, how do I fix it.
>
> here''s what I have
>
> Dom0 :: 10.0.0.1
> DomU :: 10.0.0.12
>
> Both machines work fine for 40 mins .. then;
>
> DomU reports Dom0 unreachable.
> Sure enough ping 10.0.0.1 gives no response.
> However, ping 10.0.0.12 from Dom0 responds fine.
> A one-way ping!
>
> arp -na on Dom0 reports as expected.
> arp -na on the broken DomU shows;
> ? (10.0.0.1) at FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF [ether] on eth0
>
> It''s picking up FE:EE ... instead of the desired MAC address ?!
>
> How can it do this ?!
>
> On Dom0:
> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:C5:5D:C0:BE
>          inet addr:10.0.0.1  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>          inet6 addr: fe80::215:c5ff:fe5d:c0be/64 Scope:Link
>          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>          RX packets:205397 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>          TX packets:413848 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>          RX bytes:41267633 (39.3 MB)  TX bytes:95050228 (90.6 MB)
>
> On DomU:
> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:10:00:00:0C
>          inet addr:10.0.0.12  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>          inet6 addr: fe80::200:10ff:fe00:c/64 Scope:Link
>          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>          RX packets:6297 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>          TX packets:11662 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>          RX bytes:1157351 (1.1 MB)  TX bytes:907972 (886.6 KB)
>
> Help!
>
>
>
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Crocker" <mcrocker@crocker.com>
> To: "Gareth Bult" <gareth@encryptec.net>
> Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 10:00:40 PM (GMT) Europe/London
> Subject: Re: Re; [Xen-users] Ethernet has Alzheimers
>
>>> Is the machine answering ARP replies?
>>
>> Honestly, I don''t know .. the machine tends to lock up for
other
>> reasons when it dies hence it''s not easy to track ..
>>
>>> Does the upstream router have the IP & MAC in its ARP table?
>>> Does the upstream switch have the MAC in its mac-address-table?
>>> Assigned to the correct port?
>>
>>> Sounds to me like an ARP timeout problem.
>>
>> This occurs between DomU''s and Dom0 in addition to external
>> addresses ... so I don''t think it''s linked to
anything outside of
>> Xen .. I''ve experienced the same problem on 4 different
machines,
>> all different HW config .. so again I think faulty HW is out.
>>
>> For what it''s worth;
>>
>> I''m using Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10) with the stock Xen 3.1 kernel
all on
>> AMD64 and Intel/Xeon machines all running 64 bit kernels and distros.
>>
>> All machines are using bridging with two physical ethernet ports.
>> All DomU''s are running two matching virtual ports.
>> I''m using IPTABLES (firehol) fairly heavily for port
filtering.
>
> Bridging is Layer2,  IP is Layer 3, you are having a problem at layer
> 3 so you need to look to make sure your layer 2 stuff is working
> properly.
>
> If Xen is bridging only then you won''t really have visibility into
the
> Layer 3 problem from Dom0.  You could look at the bridging config and
> see if it knows about the MAC address properly in the switch.   At
> some point upstream from the Xen hardware you have another Layer 3
> device,  most likely a router.  You need to get into that router and
> see if it has the IP -> MAC entry in its ARP table.  If it
doesn''t
> have it then there is your problem.  Something is stopping the DomU
> from answering the ARP queries from the router.  The route loses track
> of the MAC address and can no longer send Ethernet frames to your
> DomU.  If your router does have the ARP entry then I would look into
> your switches and see if they are dropping the MAC address from their
> table.
>
>
>
>
>
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> xenbr0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > > xenbr1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1Not sure if this is the problem, but I think you need to turn ARP off on your bridge interfaces. Something like: " ip link set xen-br0 arp off " or, if you prefer ifconfig: " ifconfig xen-br0 -arp " should do the trick. On my system, xen-br0 would sometimes respond to arp requests, even though it had no IP address of its own. James _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Ok, I''ve a sneaking suspicion after a couple of tests that this may be the cure. It needs to go into /etc/xen/scripts/xen-network-common.sh I notice over recent versions there have been a number of people commenting on what looks like the same problem, nobody seems to have a definitive fix. My other fix (to date) it to insert static ARP entries with; arp -s <address> <hwaddr> This also seems to be working ... Many thanks, Gareth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Harper" <james.harper@bendigoit.com.au> To: "Gareth Bult" <gareth@encryptec.net>, "Matthew Crocker" <mcrocker@crocker.com> Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 12:48:02 AM (GMT) Europe/London Subject: RE: Re; [Xen-users] Ethernet has Alzheimers> xenbr0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > > xenbr1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1Not sure if this is the problem, but I think you need to turn ARP off on your bridge interfaces. Something like: " ip link set xen-br0 arp off " or, if you prefer ifconfig: " ifconfig xen-br0 -arp " should do the trick. On my system, xen-br0 would sometimes respond to arp requests, even though it had no IP address of its own. James _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi,
For some reason my XENBR0 was being created with ARP turned on and changing
/etc/xen/scripts/xen-network-common.sh has fixed the initial problem.
Problem #2 (!) seemed to be based on this but turned out to be something
altogether different.
I''m using Dom0 as a MySQL cluster node / manager, and DomU''s
as MySQL instances.
I then have a Dom0 on a second machine acting as the arbiter.
For some reason, my iptables were catching the occasional packet on ports 1186
and 2202, which was causing the MySQL cluster configuration to randomly throw a
wobbler.
It would be really nice to get some definitive direction re; firewalling rules.
This is what I have at the moment and it seems to have cured the problem;
version 5
interface eth0 private
        policy accept
interface eth1 public
        server  ssh             accept src "$FULLACCESS"
        server  icmp            accept
        server  multicast       drop
        server  cups            drop
        server  netbios_dgm     drop
        server  netbios_ns      drop
        server  netbios_ssn     drop
        server  microsoft_ds    drop
        server  bootp           drop
        client  all             accept
router router inface any outface any
        route   all accept
interface xenbr0 xen0
        policy accept
interface xenbr1 xen1
        server  multicast       drop
        policy accept
interface peth0 phy0
        policy accept
interface peth1 phy1
        server  multicast       drop
        policy accept
interface 0 zero
        policy accept
The problem occurs if I "don''t" explicitly have "policy
accept" on all the interfaces OR I try to filter the interfaces in some way
... I''m not sure this is a problem, I guess all the DomU''s
have their own firewalls should it should be Ok (?)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gareth Bult" <gareth@encryptec.net>
To: "James Harper" <james.harper@bendigoit.com.au>
Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com, "Gareth Bult"
<gareth@encryptec.net>, "Matthew Crocker"
<mcrocker@crocker.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 3:04:03 AM (GMT) Europe/London
Subject: Re: Re; [Xen-users] Ethernet has Alzheimers
Ok,
I''ve a sneaking suspicion after a couple of tests that this may be the
cure.
It needs to go into /etc/xen/scripts/xen-network-common.sh
I notice over recent versions there have been a number of people commenting on
what looks like the same problem, nobody seems to have a definitive fix.
My other fix (to date) it to insert static ARP entries with;
arp -s <address> <hwaddr>
This also seems to be working ...
Many thanks,
Gareth.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Harper" <james.harper@bendigoit.com.au>
To: "Gareth Bult" <gareth@encryptec.net>, "Matthew
Crocker" <mcrocker@crocker.com>
Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 12:48:02 AM (GMT) Europe/London
Subject: RE: Re; [Xen-users] Ethernet has Alzheimers
> xenbr0    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> 
> xenbr1    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
Not sure if this is the problem, but I think you need to turn ARP off on
your bridge interfaces. Something like:
"
ip link set xen-br0 arp off
"
or, if you prefer ifconfig:
"
ifconfig xen-br0 -arp
"
should do the trick. On my system, xen-br0 would sometimes respond to
arp requests, even though it had no IP address of its own.
James
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