Ido Levy
2007-Dec-05  22:53 UTC
[Xen-users] How to initiate a guest installation from the CD-ROM media
Hello All, I am pretty new to Xen and I would appreciate you advice on the following issue. I have installed Red Hat 5 Update 1 with the xen kernel and all the required packages for virtualization support. I reached to the point where dom0 is up and running. Now I want to install a guest Linux OS from a customize Linux CD-ROM I have. I tried to use virt-install and virt-manager but the only install location supported is via ftp, http or NFS. Under my restrictions the only way I have to install the required guest is by initiating a CD_ROM installation. How can I do it ? Thanks, Ido _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Nico Kadel-Garcia
2007-Dec-05  23:10 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] How to initiate a guest installation from the CD-ROM media
Ido Levy wrote:> Hello All, > > I am pretty new to Xen and I would appreciate you advice on the following > issue. > > I have installed Red Hat 5 Update 1 with the xen kernel and all the > required packages for virtualization support. > I reached to the point where dom0 is up and running. > > Now I want to install a guest Linux OS from a customize Linux CD-ROM I > have. > I tried to use virt-install and virt-manager but the only install location > supported is via ftp, http or NFS. > > Under my restrictions the only way I have to install the required guest is > by initiating a CD_ROM installation. > > How can I do it ? > > > Thanks, > > Ido > >You need full virtualization to do a CD installation. Does your CPU support that? If so, enable it and select full virtualization instead of hte para-virtualization you''re currently seeing. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Sadique Puthen
2007-Dec-06  05:44 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] How to initiate a guest installation from the CD-ROM media
Ido Levy wrote:> Hello All, > > I am pretty new to Xen and I would appreciate you advice on the following > issue. > > I have installed Red Hat 5 Update 1 with the xen kernel and all the > required packages for virtualization support. > I reached to the point where dom0 is up and running. > > Now I want to install a guest Linux OS from a customize Linux CD-ROM I > have. > I tried to use virt-install and virt-manager but the only install location > supported is via ftp, http or NFS. > > Under my restrictions the only way I have to install the required guest is > by initiating a CD_ROM installation. >You can set the dom0 itself as an nfs server and install the guest from there. See details at http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_108_10484.shtm --Sadique> How can I do it ? > > > Thanks, > > Ido > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Ido Levy
2007-Dec-06  17:16 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] How to initiate a guest installation from the CD-ROM media
Thank you Nico for your tip.
As per your advice I enabled the support for the CPU and now I am able to
use full Virtualization.
I have two more question that I would appreciate your advice:
1) Is there any performance differences between para and full
virtualization ?
2) What is better to create the virtual machine as a separate partition or
as a file ?
Thanks
Ido
                                                                           
             Nico Kadel-Garcia                                             
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Ido Levy wrote:> Hello All,
>
> I am pretty new to Xen and I would appreciate you advice on the following
> issue.
>
> I have installed Red Hat 5 Update 1 with the xen kernel and all the
> required packages for virtualization support.
> I reached to the point where dom0 is up and running.
>
> Now I want to install a guest Linux OS from a customize Linux CD-ROM I
> have.
> I tried to use virt-install and virt-manager but the only install
location> supported is via ftp, http or NFS.
>
> Under my restrictions the only way I have to install the required guest
is> by initiating a CD_ROM installation.
>
> How can I do it ?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ido
>
>
You need full virtualization to do a CD installation. Does your CPU
support that? If so, enable it and select full virtualization instead of
hte para-virtualization you''re currently seeing.
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Ido Levy
2007-Dec-06  17:16 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] How to initiate a guest installation from the CD-ROM media
Thanks for the tip
Ido
                                                                           
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Ido Levy wrote:> Hello All,
>
> I am pretty new to Xen and I would appreciate you advice on the following
> issue.
>
> I have installed Red Hat 5 Update 1 with the xen kernel and all the
> required packages for virtualization support.
> I reached to the point where dom0 is up and running.
>
> Now I want to install a guest Linux OS from a customize Linux CD-ROM I
> have.
> I tried to use virt-install and virt-manager but the only install
location> supported is via ftp, http or NFS.
>
> Under my restrictions the only way I have to install the required guest
is> by initiating a CD_ROM installation.
>
You can set the dom0 itself as an nfs server and install the guest from
there.  See details at http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_108_10484.shtm
--Sadique
> How can I do it ?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ido
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xen-users mailing list
> Xen-users@lists.xensource.com
> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
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>
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Sadique Puthen
2007-Dec-06  18:13 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] How to initiate a guest installation from the CD-ROM media
Ido Levy wrote:> Thank you Nico for your tip. > > As per your advice I enabled the support for the CPU and now I am able to > use full Virtualization. > > I have two more question that I would appreciate your advice: > > 1) Is there any performance differences between para and full > virtualization ? >Yes. Paravirtualization performs around 90 to 99% of bare metal hardware whereas full virtualization without para virtualized drivers can only perform upto 50 to 60% of real hardware.> 2) What is better to create the virtual machine as a separate partition or > as a file ? >If performance is considered, partition or LVM. If flexibility for the guest to be mobile is concerned (Eg, through live migration) then file is preferred. --Sadique> Thanks > > Ido > > > > > Nico Kadel-Garcia > <nkadel@gmail.com > > To > Sent by: Ido Levy/Haifa/IBM@IBMIL > xen-users-bounces cc > @lists.xensource. xen-users@lists.xensource.com > com Subject > Re: [Xen-users] How to initiate a > guest installation from the CD-ROM > 06/12/2007 01:10 media > > > > > > > > > > > Ido Levy wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> I am pretty new to Xen and I would appreciate you advice on the following >> issue. >> >> I have installed Red Hat 5 Update 1 with the xen kernel and all the >> required packages for virtualization support. >> I reached to the point where dom0 is up and running. >> >> Now I want to install a guest Linux OS from a customize Linux CD-ROM I >> have. >> I tried to use virt-install and virt-manager but the only install >> > location > >> supported is via ftp, http or NFS. >> >> Under my restrictions the only way I have to install the required guest >> > is > >> by initiating a CD_ROM installation. >> >> How can I do it ? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ido >> >> >> > You need full virtualization to do a CD installation. Does your CPU > support that? If so, enable it and select full virtualization instead of > hte para-virtualization you''re currently seeing. > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Nico Kadel-Garcia
2007-Dec-07  00:53 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] How to initiate a guest installation from the CD-ROM media
Ido Levy wrote:> Thank you Nico for your tip. > > As per your advice I enabled the support for the CPU and now I am able to > use full Virtualization. > > I have two more question that I would appreciate your advice: > > 1) Is there any performance differences between para and full > virtualization ? > 2) What is better to create the virtual machine as a separate partition or > as a file ? > > Thanks > > Ido >Yes, para-virtualization is noticeably faster than full virtualization. And for performance and management reasons, I recommend using LVM based partitions, not files. But if your system is already built and configured, that''s not always feasible. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Ido Levy
2007-Dec-07  08:27 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] How to initiate a guest installation from the CD-ROM media
Nico,
Can you please explain why it''s better to use LVM partitions in compare
to
regular partitions with regards to image management.
Thanks,
Ido
                                                                           
             Nico Kadel-Garcia                                             
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Ido Levy wrote:> Thank you Nico for your tip.
>
> As per your advice I enabled the support for the CPU and now I am able to
> use full Virtualization.
>
> I have two more question that I would appreciate your advice:
>
> 1) Is there any performance differences between para and full
> virtualization ?
> 2) What is better to create the virtual machine as a separate partition
or> as a file ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ido
>
Yes, para-virtualization is noticeably faster than full virtualization.
And for performance and management reasons, I recommend using LVM based
partitions, not files. But if your system is already built and
configured, that''s not always feasible.
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Sadique Puthen
2007-Dec-07  09:02 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] How to initiate a guest installation from the CD-ROM media
Ido Levy wrote:> Nico, > > Can you please explain why it''s better to use LVM partitions in compare to > regular partitions with regards to image management. >Because you can resize an LVM partition. --Sadique> Thanks, > > Ido > > > > Nico Kadel-Garcia > <nkadel@gmail.com > > To > Ido Levy/Haifa/IBM@IBMIL > 07/12/2007 02:53 cc > xen-users@lists.xensource.com, > xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.c > om > Subject > Re: [Xen-users] How to initiate a > guest installation from the CD-ROM > media > > > > > > > > > > > Ido Levy wrote: > >> Thank you Nico for your tip. >> >> As per your advice I enabled the support for the CPU and now I am able to >> use full Virtualization. >> >> I have two more question that I would appreciate your advice: >> >> 1) Is there any performance differences between para and full >> virtualization ? >> 2) What is better to create the virtual machine as a separate partition >> > or > >> as a file ? >> >> Thanks >> >> Ido >> >> > Yes, para-virtualization is noticeably faster than full virtualization. > And for performance and management reasons, I recommend using LVM based > partitions, not files. But if your system is already built and > configured, that''s not always feasible. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Christian Horn
2007-Dec-07  09:06 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] How to initiate a guest installation from the CD-ROM media
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:32:41PM +0530, Sadique Puthen wrote:> Ido Levy wrote: > > > >Can you please explain why it''s better to use LVM partitions in compare to > >regular partitions with regards to image management. > > Because you can resize an LVM partition...and lvm-snapshots are also nice for backups. Christian _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users