hi! i successed running the windows guest but there are some problem with: - mouse : it'' not really easy to use it because of existing of two "head" - fullscreen: i enable "full-screen=1" in the config, but it said that was an error... - language: i''m french and i''d like to have a keyboard in french. i changed the keymap config in "the" winxp but "en-US" was using instead of "fr". i enable in the config with: keymap=fr but it didn''t work. in summary, i have a winxp system but it''s really, really difficult to use it. any suggestions, please? thank in advance. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of ko0nz > Sent: 29 May 2007 16:34 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: [Xen-users] simple configs for windows guest > > hi! > > i successed running the windows guest but there are some problem with: > - mouse : it'' not really easy to use it because of existing > of two "head"Do you mean that you have two mouse pointers that aren''t following each other? Yes, that''s "normal". Try setting "usbdevice=tablet" - this will change your "mouse" into a "pointing tablet", which has the difference to the machine that it''s giving ABSOLUTE rather than RELATIVE coordinates, which in turn is better because the device model is getting absolute coordinates when it''s READING the current mouse position - and to reverse the absolute to relative doesn''t work very well as the accelleration [1] gets all messed up [1] if you move the mouse quickly it moves further than if you move it slowly for the same actual travel distance, and this is calculated based on the actual movement and the timing of the "movement messages". Since the original movement gets accellerated by Linux, combined with the exact timing being modified by qemu-dm being run as a prcess in dom0, this isn''t going to work ever.> - fullscreen: i enable "full-screen=1" in the config, but it said that > was an error...Fullscreen isn''t working - it''s broken in Xen itself (technically in qemu-dm and the tools related to starting qemu-dm, which don''t know how to forward the "full-screen" parameter to qemu-dm).> - language: i''m french and i''d like to have a keyboard in french. > i changed the keymap config in "the" winxp but "en-US" was using > instead of "fr". > i enable in the config with: > keymap=fr but it didn''t work.Keymap should work - but you may need at least 3.0.4 of Xen, so if you are using an older version, it won''t work, you''ll have US keyboard. -- Mats> > in summary, i have a winxp system but it''s really, really > difficult to use it. > > any suggestions, please? > > thank in advance. > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
thank you for your explaination. i understant now why everybody wants to try Xen 3.1...:) On 5/29/07, Petersson, Mats <Mats.Petersson@amd.com> wrote:> > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of ko0nz > > Sent: 29 May 2007 16:34 > > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > Subject: [Xen-users] simple configs for windows guest > > > > hi! > > > > i successed running the windows guest but there are some problem with: > > - mouse : it'' not really easy to use it because of existing > > of two "head" > > Do you mean that you have two mouse pointers that aren''t following each > other? Yes, that''s "normal". Try setting "usbdevice=tablet" - this will > change your "mouse" into a "pointing tablet", which has the difference > to the machine that it''s giving ABSOLUTE rather than RELATIVE > coordinates, which in turn is better because the device model is getting > absolute coordinates when it''s READING the current mouse position - and > to reverse the absolute to relative doesn''t work very well as the > accelleration [1] gets all messed up > > > [1] if you move the mouse quickly it moves further than if you move it > slowly for the same actual travel distance, and this is calculated based > on the actual movement and the timing of the "movement messages". Since > the original movement gets accellerated by Linux, combined with the > exact timing being modified by qemu-dm being run as a prcess in dom0, > this isn''t going to work ever. > > > - fullscreen: i enable "full-screen=1" in the config, but it said that > > was an error... > > Fullscreen isn''t working - it''s broken in Xen itself (technically in > qemu-dm and the tools related to starting qemu-dm, which don''t know how > to forward the "full-screen" parameter to qemu-dm). > > > - language: i''m french and i''d like to have a keyboard in french. > > i changed the keymap config in "the" winxp but "en-US" was using > > instead of "fr". > > i enable in the config with: > > keymap=fr but it didn''t work. > > Keymap should work - but you may need at least 3.0.4 of Xen, so if you > are using an older version, it won''t work, you''ll have US keyboard. > > -- > Mats > > > > > in summary, i have a winxp system but it''s really, really > > difficult to use it. > > > > any suggestions, please? > > > > thank in advance. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> > other? Yes, that''s "normal". Try setting "usbdevice=tablet" - this illbut it seems that option doesn''t work either. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Using XP? I gave up using VNC. I''m working with rdesktop instead. keymap, mouse, all working there. That way it''s "usable" ;-) br Walter> -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Ko0nz > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:51 PM > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] simple configs for windows guest > > > > other? Yes, that''s "normal". Try setting > "usbdevice=tablet" - this ill > > but it seems that option doesn''t work either. > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
hi Walter, would you show us your config about rdesktop, please? i''d be very interesting to have a nice working XP guest. thank you in advance. On 5/30/07, Schober Walter <Walter.Schober@neotel.at> wrote:> Using XP? I gave up using VNC. I''m working with rdesktop instead. > keymap, mouse, all working there. That way it''s "usable" ;-) > br > Walter >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of ko0nz > Sent: 30 May 2007 09:01 > To: Schober Walter > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] simple configs for windows guest > > hi Walter, > > would you show us your config about rdesktop, please? > i''d be very interesting to have a nice working XP guest.Rdesktop is a "remote desktop" application that uses the Windows protocol and runs on Linux. As such, you should be able to configure this with your current setup - there''s no difference in the config for Xen, just in the setup inside Windows. I''m surprised that tablet doesn''t work for you tho'' - perhaps that wasn''t in 3.0.3 either... [I''m never quite sure which version of Xen contains what features]. -- Mats> > thank you in advance. > > > On 5/30/07, Schober Walter <Walter.Schober@neotel.at> wrote: > > Using XP? I gave up using VNC. I''m working with rdesktop instead. > > keymap, mouse, all working there. That way it''s "usable" ;-) > > br > > Walter > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 5/29/07, ko0nz <yesiko0nz@gmail.com> wrote:> - mouse : it'' not really easy to use it because of existing of two "head" > - fullscreen: i enable "full-screen=1" in the config, but it said that > was an error... > - language: i''m french and i''d like to have a keyboard in french. > i changed the keymap config in "the" winxp but "en-US" was using > instead of "fr". > i enable in the config with: > keymap=fr but it didn''t work. > > in summary, i have a winxp system but it''s really, really difficult to use it. >when removing from my config: vnc=1 vncviewer=1 my keymap(fr) is activated but not my numeric keyboard...strange! and my mouse in the XP window is a little slow... is it possible to have it faster( like in the linux host)? and what''s the combining of key to exit from XP window, please? Ctrl+Altgr+] is for exiting from the console guest. thank in advance. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Petersson, Mats
2007-May-30 12:43 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] Re: simple configs for windows guest
> -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of ko0nz > Sent: 30 May 2007 13:39 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: [Xen-users] Re: simple configs for windows guest > > On 5/29/07, ko0nz <yesiko0nz@gmail.com> wrote: > > > - mouse : it'' not really easy to use it because of existing > of two "head" > > - fullscreen: i enable "full-screen=1" in the config, but > it said that > > was an error... > > - language: i''m french and i''d like to have a keyboard in french. > > i changed the keymap config in "the" winxp but "en-US" was using > > instead of "fr". > > i enable in the config with: > > keymap=fr but it didn''t work. > > > > in summary, i have a winxp system but it''s really, really > difficult to use it. > > > > when removing from my config: > vnc=1 > vncviewer=1 > my keymap(fr) is activated but not my numeric keyboard...strange! > and my mouse in the XP window is a little slow... > is it possible to have it faster( like in the linux host)?Probably not. Try making sure that Dom0 runs on a separate CPU, that will make it a tiny bit more responsive, but it''s not a HUGE difference. Have you upgraded to 3.1? If not, I suggest you do, because it will have a whole heap or improvements, including some that makes performance better.> and what''s the combining of key to exit from XP window, please? > Ctrl+Altgr+] is for exiting from the console guest.You mean in Full-screen mode? I don''t think there is a way to "get out" of full-screen mode... I think that was mentioned by Trolle as one of the "drawbacks" of this mode. [Which may be why it''s not being used!] -- Mats> > thank in advance. > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> Probably not. Try making sure that Dom0 runs on a separate CPU, that > will make it a tiny bit more responsive, but it''s not a HUGE difference. > Have you upgraded to 3.1? If not, I suggest you do, because it will have > a whole heap or improvements, including some that makes performance > better.not yet :) i''d like to have a try...> > and what''s the combining of key to exit from XP window, please? > > Ctrl+Altgr+] is for exiting from the console guest. > > You mean in Full-screen mode? I don''t think there is a way to "get out" > of full-screen mode... I think that was mentioned by Trolle as one of > the "drawbacks" of this mode. [Which may be why it''s not being used!]no. i mean "to have the mouse exiting from the XP window". actually, i can''t have the full-screen (with the option) because my version of Xen is xen-hypervisor-3.0-i386 and you''ve said it works only from 3.0.4. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Petersson, Mats
2007-May-30 12:55 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] Re: simple configs for windows guest
> -----Original Message----- > From: kameas@gmail.com [mailto:kameas@gmail.com] On Behalf Of ko0nz > Sent: 30 May 2007 13:52 > To: Petersson, Mats > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Re: simple configs for windows guest > > > Probably not. Try making sure that Dom0 runs on a separate CPU, that > > will make it a tiny bit more responsive, but it''s not a > HUGE difference. > > Have you upgraded to 3.1? If not, I suggest you do, because > it will have > > a whole heap or improvements, including some that makes performance > > better. > > not yet :) > i''d like to have a try... > > > > and what''s the combining of key to exit from XP window, please? > > > Ctrl+Altgr+] is for exiting from the console guest. > > > > You mean in Full-screen mode? I don''t think there is a way > to "get out" > > of full-screen mode... I think that was mentioned by Trolle > as one of > > the "drawbacks" of this mode. [Which may be why it''s not > being used!] > > no. i mean "to have the mouse exiting from the XP window". > actually, i can''t have the full-screen (with the option) because my > version of Xen is xen-hypervisor-3.0-i386 > and you''ve said it works only from 3.0.4.To make the mouse and keyboard exit from the VM, you press just CTRL-ALT (no other keys). I misunderstood what you meant, sorry about that. -- Mats> > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> To make the mouse and keyboard exit from the VM, you press just CTRL-ALT > (no other keys). I misunderstood what you meant, sorry about that.it''s me: i need to improve my english...:)> Try making sure that Dom0 runs on a separate CPU, that > will make it a tiny bit more responsive, but it''s not a HUGE difference.any option on the config to do this? xentop - 15:13:51 Xen 3.0.3-0 2 domains: 1 running, 1 blocked, 0 paused, 0 crashed, 0 dying, 0 shutdown Mem: 2071872k total, 2071436k used, 436k free CPUs: 2 @ 1862MHz NAME STATE CPU(sec) CPU(%) MEM(k) MEM(%) MAXMEM(k) MAXMEM(%) VCPUS NETS NETTX(k) NETRX(k) VBDS VBD_OO VBD_RD VBD_WR SSID Domain-0 -----r 1601 15.4 973824 47.0 no limit n/a 2 8 202425 352014 0 0 0 0 0 winxp --b--- 30 0.2 1063324 51.3 1071516 51.7 1 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 an another question: what could be the possibility to run a xen server on a (vt or pacifica) server ? i need to diversify my knowledge... i understand that the aim is to have several guest...but on a server that is aimed to do one job, what could be the advantage? thank for your help. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Petersson, Mats
2007-May-30 13:26 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] Re: simple configs for windows guest
> -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of ko0nz > Sent: 30 May 2007 14:15 > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Re: simple configs for windows guest > > > To make the mouse and keyboard exit from the VM, you press > just CTRL-ALT > > (no other keys). I misunderstood what you meant, sorry about that. > > it''s me: i need to improve my english...:) > > > Try making sure that Dom0 runs on a separate CPU, that > > will make it a tiny bit more responsive, but it''s not a > HUGE difference. > > any option on the config to do this? > > xentop - 15:13:51 Xen 3.0.3-0 > 2 domains: 1 running, 1 blocked, 0 paused, 0 crashed, 0 > dying, 0 shutdown > Mem: 2071872k total, 2071436k used, 436k free CPUs: 2 @ 1862MHz > NAME STATE CPU(sec) CPU(%) MEM(k) MEM(%) MAXMEM(k) > MAXMEM(%) VCPUS NETS NETTX(k) NETRX(k) VBDS VBD_OO VBD_RD VBD_WR > SSID > Domain-0 -----r 1601 15.4 973824 47.0 no limit > n/a 2 8 202425 352014 0 0 0 0 0 > winxp --b--- 30 0.2 1063324 51.3 1071516 > 51.7 1 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 >Yes, the "xm vcpu-pin" can be used to restrict which cpu(s) are used for which domain. "xm vcpu-set" can be used to adjust the number of CPU''s used by a particular guest. You can also permanently set the number of CPU''s used by the guest and Dom0. For the Guest, you use "CPUS=n-m" or "CPUS=n,m" in the config file. For Dom0, you can set the number of cpus with "(dom0-cpus n)" in /etc/xen/xend-cofnig.sxp, which sets the number of CPUS for Dom0. You can''t map which CPU that dom0 uses, but it always starts at the lowest CPU number.> > an another question: > what could be the possibility to run a xen server on a (vt or > pacifica) server ?You can run Xen inside a HVM virtual machine, yes. You can''t use VT/SVM once your on that VM tho (because neither of those features allow "nested virtual machines" - there''s been a few comments on that subject in Xen Devel in the last month or so).> i need to diversify my knowledge... > i understand that the aim is to have several guest...but on a server > that is aimed to do one job, what could be the advantage?I don''t quite understand this "question"? The general purpose of Xen is to run multiple guests, such as one Windows Server as a "Exchange Mail Server", another guest is the "file-server" [say it''s running Samba on Linux] and a third one is the companies database server running "MS Sql" on Windows Server. That''s just one example. There is little advantage to running Xen on top of Xen - Mark Williamson does it for development of the Xen hypervisor, which allows him to use one machine to run multiple versions of Xen, and also since the "base-Xen" can "shutdown" errant guest-instances, it allows "remote reboot" of the Xen system being debugged. But for any "real" scenario, it''s unlikely to be useful. -- Mats> > thank for your help. > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
great! thank you for your answer.> > > To make the mouse and keyboard exit from the VM, you press > > just CTRL-ALT > > > (no other keys). I misunderstood what you meant, sorry about that. > > > > it''s me: i need to improve my english...:) > > > > > Try making sure that Dom0 runs on a separate CPU, that > > > will make it a tiny bit more responsive, but it''s not a > > HUGE difference. > > > > any option on the config to do this? > > > > xentop - 15:13:51 Xen 3.0.3-0 > > 2 domains: 1 running, 1 blocked, 0 paused, 0 crashed, 0 > > dying, 0 shutdown > > Mem: 2071872k total, 2071436k used, 436k free CPUs: 2 @ 1862MHz > > NAME STATE CPU(sec) CPU(%) MEM(k) MEM(%) MAXMEM(k) > > MAXMEM(%) VCPUS NETS NETTX(k) NETRX(k) VBDS VBD_OO VBD_RD VBD_WR > > SSID > > Domain-0 -----r 1601 15.4 973824 47.0 no limit > > n/a 2 8 202425 352014 0 0 0 0 0 > > winxp --b--- 30 0.2 1063324 51.3 1071516 > > 51.7 1 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 > > > Yes, the "xm vcpu-pin" can be used to restrict which cpu(s) are used for > which domain. "xm vcpu-set" can be used to adjust the number of CPU''s > used by a particular guest. > > You can also permanently set the number of CPU''s used by the guest and > Dom0. For the Guest, you use "CPUS=n-m" or "CPUS=n,m" in the config > file. For Dom0, you can set the number of cpus with "(dom0-cpus n)" in > /etc/xen/xend-cofnig.sxp, which sets the number of CPUS for Dom0. You > can''t map which CPU that dom0 uses, but it always starts at the lowest > CPU number. > > > > > an another question: > > what could be the possibility to run a xen server on a (vt or > > pacifica) server ? > > You can run Xen inside a HVM virtual machine, yes. You can''t use VT/SVM > once your on that VM tho (because neither of those features allow > "nested virtual machines" - there''s been a few comments on that subject > in Xen Devel in the last month or so). > > > i need to diversify my knowledge... > > i understand that the aim is to have several guest...but on a server > > that is aimed to do one job, what could be the advantage? > > I don''t quite understand this "question"? The general purpose of Xen is > to run multiple guests, such as one Windows Server as a "Exchange Mail > Server", another guest is the "file-server" [say it''s running Samba on > Linux] and a third one is the companies database server running "MS Sql" > on Windows Server. That''s just one example. > > There is little advantage to running Xen on top of Xen - Mark Williamson > does it for development of the Xen hypervisor, which allows him to use > one machine to run multiple versions of Xen, and also since the > "base-Xen" can "shutdown" errant guest-instances, it allows "remote > reboot" of the Xen system being debugged. But for any "real" scenario, > it''s unlikely to be useful._______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users