I plan to get a new Core2 Duo machine and install Fedora Core on it. I''d like to run Vista in a virtual machine atop Linux. So, am I better off using Xen for the virtual machine, or VMWare Server? Any tips and insights appreciated. -- Paul _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> I plan to get a new Core2 Duo machine and install Fedora Core on it. > I''d like to run Vista in a virtual machine atop Linux. So, am I > better off using Xen for the virtual machine, or VMWare Server?Unless you are doing it for self education, technology preparation in anticipation of a Xen future, or investing oneself in the technology for whatever reason, I''d say you shouldn''t use Xen yet. Getting a well-running Xen configuration is still a linux black- belt level task. VMWare products are rock-solid dependable and are generally work out of the box. There is the question of whether or not VMWare supports Vista. You should check that. Also, some versions of Vista aren''t licensed for virtualization (if you care). Joe. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Kraska, Joe A (US SSA) wrote:>> I plan to get a new Core2 Duo machine and install Fedora Core on it. >> I''d like to run Vista in a virtual machine atop Linux. So, am I >> better off using Xen for the virtual machine, or VMWare Server? > > Unless you are doing it for self education, technology preparation > in anticipation of a Xen future, or investing oneself in the > technology for whatever reason, I''d say you shouldn''t use Xen yet. > Getting a well-running Xen configuration is still a linux black- > belt level task.Nah, it''s down to red belt or yellow belt. The "virt-manager" tool for REL 4.92 beta or Fedora Core 6 is up to the job.> VMWare products are rock-solid dependable and are generally work > out of the box.That has not been my experience, but I admit it''s been 3 years since I did one myself.> There is the question of whether or not VMWare supports Vista. You > should check that. Also, some versions of Vista aren''t licensed for > virtualization (if you care).Licensing. Licensing is always fun...... _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> Nah, it''s down to red belt or yellow belt. The "virt-manager" tool forREL> 4.92 beta or Fedora Core 6 is up to the job.The stuff that shipped with RHEL5b2 was so bad it couldn''t even get VM''s installed on our Dell 1955 blades without crashing... full virtual or para virtual, either one. Joe. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Kraska, Joe A (US SSA) wrote:>>I plan to get a new Core2 Duo machine and install Fedora Core on it. >>I''d like to run Vista in a virtual machine atop Linux. So, am I >>better off using Xen for the virtual machine, or VMWare Server? > > > Unless you are doing it for self education, technology preparation > in anticipation of a Xen future, or investing oneself in the > technology for whatever reason, I''d say you shouldn''t use Xen yet. > Getting a well-running Xen configuration is still a linux black- > belt level task. > > VMWare products are rock-solid dependable and are generally work > out of the box. > > There is the question of whether or not VMWare supports Vista. You > should check that. Also, some versions of Vista aren''t licensed for > virtualization (if you care). >Hi Paul and Joe, While I can''t speak about Vista I have to disagree about Xen''s useability. This morning made 180 days uptime on an el cheapo mobo with an AMD Sempron 3000+ processor. It''s running xen-3.0.2-2 with a dom0 (of course) and three guests, all fedora core 4. It has provided a reliable firewall/router with a WAN, LAN, and DMZ, public and private dns, a caching name server, several smtp and pop servers, a web app server and a database server with nary a hiccup. At about 7:30 this morning its power supply fried. I pulled the box, swapped out the power supply, cleaned it of all its dust bunnies and rebooted the machine, checked that it had all its fingers and toes, then started xend and each of its three vm''s. Back in business by 8:30 with a very big smile :D My office used to hum. It''s much quieter now, and my utility bills are noticeably lower. The jumble of switches, power modules, cat 5 cables, and power strips has disappeared. While it _was_ a challenge to set up I wouldn''t even think about retiring xen now. My $0.02, Mike Wright :m) _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> While it _was_ a challenge to set up I wouldn''t even think about > retiring xen now.No one''s suggesting you should. :) The state of Xen today is not the state of Xen tomorrow. I believe that it is obvious that Xen will be the defacto consumer-ready out-of-the-box virtualization solution for Linux within a very short time window... 12-18 months, maybe sooner. The momentum is obvious. It''s just not "point and click" yet. If anything goes the least bit wrong with your Xen installation today, you''ll be burrowing all the way to the bottom. Joe. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users