Ulrich Windl
2006-Oct-06 09:31 UTC
[Xen-users] Trouble trying to use vmware within XEN Dom0
Hi,
it seems using vmware within XEN is the ultimate test for XEN. Unfortunately it
does not work (SLES10 on x86_64 (latest) with VMware Server 1.0.1):
The Linux gets an Oops or panic:
Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: CPU 2
Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Modules linked in: vmnet parport_pc parport vmm
on xt_physdev xt_pkttype ipt_LOG xt_limit bridge blkbk netbk netloop nfsd eeprom
exportfs lockd lm92 nfs_acl adm1026 hwmon_vid hwmon sunrpc i2c_isa sr_mod af_pa
cket button battery ac ip6t_REJECT xt_tcpudp ipt_REJECT xt_state iptable_mangle
iptable_nat ip_nat iptable_filter ip6table_mangle ip_conntrack nfnetlink ip_tabl
es ip6table_filter ip6_tables x_tables ipv6 loop usb_storage usbhid dm_mod hw_ra
ndom i2c_amd8111 i2c_amd756 i2c_core ide_cd ohci_hcd usbcore e1000 cdrom shpchp
pci_hotplug reiserfs fan thermal processor sg mptsas mptscsih mptbase scsi_trans
port_sas amd74xx sd_mod scsi_mod ide_disk ide_core
Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Pid: 7300, comm: vmware-vmx Tainted: P U 2.
6.16.21-0.25-xen #1
Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: RIP: e030:[<ffffffff883483a2>]
<ffffffff883483a
2>{:vmmon:Task_Switch+503}
[...]
Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Process vmware-vmx (pid: 7300, threadinfo ffff8
803bccba000, task ffff8803ea591880)
[...]
Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Call Trace:
<ffffffff8834ac5e>{:vmmon:Vmx86_RunVM+63}
Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel:
<ffffffff88343a8e>{:vmmon:LinuxDriver_Ioctl+317}
<ffffffff8010d7e7>{monotonic_clock+53}
Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel:
<ffffffff802c5fe9>{thread_return+0}
<ffffffff8012e937>{do_setitimer+936}
Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel:
<ffffffff8834423e>{:vmmon:LinuxDriver_CompatIoctl+35}
Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel:
<ffffffff801980ac>{compat_sys_ioctl+206}
<ffffffff80119ca5>{ia32_sysret+0}
[...]
Regards,
Ulrich
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Janke Dávid
2006-Oct-06 11:37 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Trouble trying to use vmware within XEN Dom0
Hi Ulrich! If you parse the list archive, we discussed this. Unfortunately it won''t work. Use a VT enabled system and HVM for Windows installs. Or a seperate server. David On 10/6/06, Ulrich Windl <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> wrote:> > Hi, > > it seems using vmware within XEN is the ultimate test for XEN. > Unfortunately it > does not work (SLES10 on x86_64 (latest) with VMware Server 1.0.1): > > The Linux gets an Oops or panic: > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: CPU 2 > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Modules linked in: vmnet parport_pc > parport vmm > on xt_physdev xt_pkttype ipt_LOG xt_limit bridge blkbk netbk netloop nfsd > eeprom > exportfs lockd lm92 nfs_acl adm1026 hwmon_vid hwmon sunrpc i2c_isa sr_mod > af_pa > cket button battery ac ip6t_REJECT xt_tcpudp ipt_REJECT xt_state > iptable_mangle > iptable_nat ip_nat iptable_filter ip6table_mangle ip_conntrack nfnetlink > ip_tabl > es ip6table_filter ip6_tables x_tables ipv6 loop usb_storage usbhid dm_mod > hw_ra > ndom i2c_amd8111 i2c_amd756 i2c_core ide_cd ohci_hcd usbcore e1000 cdrom > shpchp > pci_hotplug reiserfs fan thermal processor sg mptsas mptscsih mptbase > scsi_trans > port_sas amd74xx sd_mod scsi_mod ide_disk ide_core > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Pid: 7300, comm: vmware-vmx Tainted: > P U 2. > 6.16.21-0.25-xen #1 > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: RIP: e030:[<ffffffff883483a2>] > <ffffffff883483a > 2>{:vmmon:Task_Switch+503} > [...] > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Process vmware-vmx (pid: 7300, threadinfo > ffff8 > 803bccba000, task ffff8803ea591880) > [...] > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Call Trace: > <ffffffff8834ac5e>{:vmmon:Vmx86_RunVM+63} > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: > <ffffffff88343a8e>{:vmmon:LinuxDriver_Ioctl+317} > <ffffffff8010d7e7>{monotonic_clock+53} > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 > kernel: <ffffffff802c5fe9>{thread_return+0} > <ffffffff8012e937>{do_setitimer+936} > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: > <ffffffff8834423e>{:vmmon:LinuxDriver_CompatIoctl+35} > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 > kernel: <ffffffff801980ac>{compat_sys_ioctl+206} > <ffffffff80119ca5>{ia32_sysret+0} > [...] > > Regards, > Ulrich > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Ulrich Windl
2006-Oct-06 13:09 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Trouble trying to use vmware within XEN Dom0
On 6 Oct 2006 at 13:37, Janke Dávid wrote:> Hi Ulrich! > > If you parse the list archive, we discussed this. Unfortunately it won''t > work. Use a VT enabled system and HVM for Windows installs. Or a seperate > server.OK, I agree it wouldn''t work, so I guess XEN would also fail under VMware, right? I was only reporting this because there was a kernel problem, and I was not sure whether the vmware modules have the problem, or the XEN code, or the stck kernel... Regards, Ulrich> > David > > On 10/6/06, Ulrich Windl <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > it seems using vmware within XEN is the ultimate test for XEN. > > Unfortunately it > > does not work (SLES10 on x86_64 (latest) with VMware Server 1.0.1): > > > > The Linux gets an Oops or panic: > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: CPU 2 > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Modules linked in: vmnet parport_pc > > parport vmm > > on xt_physdev xt_pkttype ipt_LOG xt_limit bridge blkbk netbk netloop nfsd > > eeprom > > exportfs lockd lm92 nfs_acl adm1026 hwmon_vid hwmon sunrpc i2c_isa sr_mod > > af_pa > > cket button battery ac ip6t_REJECT xt_tcpudp ipt_REJECT xt_state > > iptable_mangle > > iptable_nat ip_nat iptable_filter ip6table_mangle ip_conntrack nfnetlink > > ip_tabl > > es ip6table_filter ip6_tables x_tables ipv6 loop usb_storage usbhid dm_mod > > hw_ra > > ndom i2c_amd8111 i2c_amd756 i2c_core ide_cd ohci_hcd usbcore e1000 cdrom > > shpchp > > pci_hotplug reiserfs fan thermal processor sg mptsas mptscsih mptbase > > scsi_trans > > port_sas amd74xx sd_mod scsi_mod ide_disk ide_core > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Pid: 7300, comm: vmware-vmx Tainted: > > P U 2. > > 6.16.21-0.25-xen #1 > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: RIP: e030:[<ffffffff883483a2>] > > <ffffffff883483a > > 2>{:vmmon:Task_Switch+503} > > [...] > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Process vmware-vmx (pid: 7300, threadinfo > > ffff8 > > 803bccba000, task ffff8803ea591880) > > [...] > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Call Trace: > > <ffffffff8834ac5e>{:vmmon:Vmx86_RunVM+63} > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: > > <ffffffff88343a8e>{:vmmon:LinuxDriver_Ioctl+317} > > <ffffffff8010d7e7>{monotonic_clock+53} > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 > > kernel: <ffffffff802c5fe9>{thread_return+0} > > <ffffffff8012e937>{do_setitimer+936} > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: > > <ffffffff8834423e>{:vmmon:LinuxDriver_CompatIoctl+35} > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 > > kernel: <ffffffff801980ac>{compat_sys_ioctl+206} > > <ffffffff80119ca5>{ia32_sysret+0} > > [...] > > > > Regards, > > Ulrich > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Petersson, Mats
2006-Oct-06 13:34 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] Trouble trying to use vmware within XEN Dom0
> -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of > Ulrich Windl > Sent: 06 October 2006 14:10 > To: Janke Dávid > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Trouble trying to use vmware within XEN Dom0 > > On 6 Oct 2006 at 13:37, Janke Dávid wrote: > > > Hi Ulrich! > > > > If you parse the list archive, we discussed this. > Unfortunately it won''t > > work. Use a VT enabled system and HVM for Windows installs. > Or a seperate > > server. > > OK, I agree it wouldn''t work, so I guess XEN would also fail > under VMware, right? > I was only reporting this because there was a kernel problem, > and I was not sure > whether the vmware modules have the problem, or the XEN code, > or the stck > kernel...Yes, Xen will not work on top of VMWare, for exactly the same reason - again, it''s theoretically possible to make it work - but I would expect that it''s not on the top of VMWares or Xen''s list of things to do... ;-) -- Mats> > Regards, > Ulrich > > > > > David > > > > On 10/6/06, Ulrich Windl <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > it seems using vmware within XEN is the ultimate test for XEN. > > > Unfortunately it > > > does not work (SLES10 on x86_64 (latest) with VMware > Server 1.0.1): > > > > > > The Linux gets an Oops or panic: > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: CPU 2 > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Modules linked in: vmnet > parport_pc > > > parport vmm > > > on xt_physdev xt_pkttype ipt_LOG xt_limit bridge blkbk > netbk netloop nfsd > > > eeprom > > > exportfs lockd lm92 nfs_acl adm1026 hwmon_vid hwmon > sunrpc i2c_isa sr_mod > > > af_pa > > > cket button battery ac ip6t_REJECT xt_tcpudp ipt_REJECT xt_state > > > iptable_mangle > > > iptable_nat ip_nat iptable_filter ip6table_mangle > ip_conntrack nfnetlink > > > ip_tabl > > > es ip6table_filter ip6_tables x_tables ipv6 loop > usb_storage usbhid dm_mod > > > hw_ra > > > ndom i2c_amd8111 i2c_amd756 i2c_core ide_cd ohci_hcd > usbcore e1000 cdrom > > > shpchp > > > pci_hotplug reiserfs fan thermal processor sg mptsas > mptscsih mptbase > > > scsi_trans > > > port_sas amd74xx sd_mod scsi_mod ide_disk ide_core > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Pid: 7300, comm: > vmware-vmx Tainted: > > > P U 2. > > > 6.16.21-0.25-xen #1 > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: RIP: e030:[<ffffffff883483a2>] > > > <ffffffff883483a > > > 2>{:vmmon:Task_Switch+503} > > > [...] > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Process vmware-vmx (pid: > 7300, threadinfo > > > ffff8 > > > 803bccba000, task ffff8803ea591880) > > > [...] > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Call Trace: > > > <ffffffff8834ac5e>{:vmmon:Vmx86_RunVM+63} > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: > > > <ffffffff88343a8e>{:vmmon:LinuxDriver_Ioctl+317} > > > <ffffffff8010d7e7>{monotonic_clock+53} > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 > > > kernel: <ffffffff802c5fe9>{thread_return+0} > > > <ffffffff8012e937>{do_setitimer+936} > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: > > > <ffffffff8834423e>{:vmmon:LinuxDriver_CompatIoctl+35} > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 > > > kernel: <ffffffff801980ac>{compat_sys_ioctl+206} > > > <ffffffff80119ca5>{ia32_sysret+0} > > > [...] > > > > > > Regards, > > > Ulrich > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Iustin Pop
2006-Oct-06 16:14 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Trouble trying to use vmware within XEN Dom0
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 03:09:53PM +0200, Ulrich Windl wrote:> OK, I agree it wouldn''t work, so I guess XEN would also fail under VMware, right?For your information, XEN runs fine on top of qemu. It''s a perfect environment for testing, just not very fast. Sometimes it even works with kqemu in user mode, which increases the speed quite a bit. Regards, Iustin _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Henning Sprang
2006-Oct-08 18:44 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Trouble trying to use vmware within XEN Dom0
On 10/6/06, Ulrich Windl <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> wrote:> OK, I agree it wouldn''t work, so I guess XEN would also fail under VMware, right?I heard people doing this. Not sure whwre it''s documented. As VMWare simulates a full PC including full BIOS, this can work. But here we are starting to talk about one Virtualization technology _inside_ the other, while your first problem was one tech _next_ to the other. Henning _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Mark Williamson
2006-Oct-21 03:10 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Trouble trying to use vmware within XEN Dom0
> Yes, Xen will not work on top of VMWare, for exactly the same reason - > again, it''s theoretically possible to make it work - but I would expect > that it''s not on the top of VMWares or Xen''s list of things to do... ;-)Actually, it certainly used to run. There used to be a few hacks in Xen specifically to make development running on VMware easier... IIRC, VMware wants to do things it just *can''t* do in a Xen dom0, whereas dom0 and Xen do (mostly) valid things from the PoV of VMware. The only thing I can think of that stops Xen running in VMware is lack of local apic support in VMware''s emulation, and the occasional VMware bug that folks would run across. But, as you say, it''s not going to be top of VMware''s list to make this work ;-) Although QEmu actually use the Xen DemoCD as a regression test, presumably because it exercises the hardware in fairly strange ways :-) Cheers, Mark> > -- > Mats > > > Regards, > > Ulrich > > > > > David > > > > > > On 10/6/06, Ulrich Windl <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > it seems using vmware within XEN is the ultimate test for XEN. > > > > Unfortunately it > > > > does not work (SLES10 on x86_64 (latest) with VMware > > > > Server 1.0.1): > > > > The Linux gets an Oops or panic: > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: CPU 2 > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Modules linked in: vmnet > > > > parport_pc > > > > > > parport vmm > > > > on xt_physdev xt_pkttype ipt_LOG xt_limit bridge blkbk > > > > netbk netloop nfsd > > > > > > eeprom > > > > exportfs lockd lm92 nfs_acl adm1026 hwmon_vid hwmon > > > > sunrpc i2c_isa sr_mod > > > > > > af_pa > > > > cket button battery ac ip6t_REJECT xt_tcpudp ipt_REJECT xt_state > > > > iptable_mangle > > > > iptable_nat ip_nat iptable_filter ip6table_mangle > > > > ip_conntrack nfnetlink > > > > > > ip_tabl > > > > es ip6table_filter ip6_tables x_tables ipv6 loop > > > > usb_storage usbhid dm_mod > > > > > > hw_ra > > > > ndom i2c_amd8111 i2c_amd756 i2c_core ide_cd ohci_hcd > > > > usbcore e1000 cdrom > > > > > > shpchp > > > > pci_hotplug reiserfs fan thermal processor sg mptsas > > > > mptscsih mptbase > > > > > > scsi_trans > > > > port_sas amd74xx sd_mod scsi_mod ide_disk ide_core > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Pid: 7300, comm: > > > > vmware-vmx Tainted: > > > > P U 2. > > > > 6.16.21-0.25-xen #1 > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: RIP: e030:[<ffffffff883483a2>] > > > > <ffffffff883483a > > > > 2>{:vmmon:Task_Switch+503} > > > > [...] > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Process vmware-vmx (pid: > > > > 7300, threadinfo > > > > > > ffff8 > > > > 803bccba000, task ffff8803ea591880) > > > > [...] > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Call Trace: > > > > <ffffffff8834ac5e>{:vmmon:Vmx86_RunVM+63} > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: > > > > <ffffffff88343a8e>{:vmmon:LinuxDriver_Ioctl+317} > > > > <ffffffff8010d7e7>{monotonic_clock+53} > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 > > > > kernel: <ffffffff802c5fe9>{thread_return+0} > > > > <ffffffff8012e937>{do_setitimer+936} > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: > > > > <ffffffff8834423e>{:vmmon:LinuxDriver_CompatIoctl+35} > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 > > > > kernel: <ffffffff801980ac>{compat_sys_ioctl+206} > > > > <ffffffff80119ca5>{ia32_sysret+0} > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Ulrich > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users-- Dave: Just a question. What use is a unicyle with no seat? And no pedals! Mark: To answer a question with a question: What use is a skateboard? Dave: Skateboards have wheels. Mark: My wheel has a wheel! _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Mark Williamson
2006-Oct-21 03:13 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Trouble trying to use vmware within XEN Dom0
> it seems using vmware within XEN is the ultimate test for XEN. > Unfortunately it does not work (SLES10 on x86_64 (latest) with VMware > Server 1.0.1):VMware won''t run in Xen - the paravirtualised nature of Xen guest OSes makes it impossible for the VMware code to do the low-level manipulation of hardware state it expects to do. It might be possible to run VMware in Full Virtualisation in an HVM domain, in principle, but if you had HVM I guess you wouldn''t want VMware (!) QEmu (free) or Win4Lin (commercial) will run in Xen domains. The latter even offer official support for running in Xen domains. Both will let you run Windows, albeit with a performance penalty relative to VMware. There are some longer term plans to allow Xen to support unmodified guest operating systems with reasonable performance on non-HVM-aware hardware - this might be able to do what you want at some point in the future. HTH, Mark> The Linux gets an Oops or panic: > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: CPU 2 > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Modules linked in: vmnet parport_pc > parport vmm on xt_physdev xt_pkttype ipt_LOG xt_limit bridge blkbk netbk > netloop nfsd eeprom exportfs lockd lm92 nfs_acl adm1026 hwmon_vid hwmon > sunrpc i2c_isa sr_mod af_pa cket button battery ac ip6t_REJECT xt_tcpudp > ipt_REJECT xt_state iptable_mangle iptable_nat ip_nat iptable_filter > ip6table_mangle ip_conntrack nfnetlink ip_tabl es ip6table_filter > ip6_tables x_tables ipv6 loop usb_storage usbhid dm_mod hw_ra ndom > i2c_amd8111 i2c_amd756 i2c_core ide_cd ohci_hcd usbcore e1000 cdrom shpchp > pci_hotplug reiserfs fan thermal processor sg mptsas mptscsih mptbase > scsi_trans port_sas amd74xx sd_mod scsi_mod ide_disk ide_core > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Pid: 7300, comm: vmware-vmx Tainted: P > U 2. 6.16.21-0.25-xen #1 > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: RIP: e030:[<ffffffff883483a2>] > <ffffffff883483a 2>{:vmmon:Task_Switch+503} > [...] > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Process vmware-vmx (pid: 7300, threadinfo > ffff8 803bccba000, task ffff8803ea591880) > [...] > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Call Trace: > <ffffffff8834ac5e>{:vmmon:Vmx86_RunVM+63} > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: > <ffffffff88343a8e>{:vmmon:LinuxDriver_Ioctl+317} > <ffffffff8010d7e7>{monotonic_clock+53} > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: <ffffffff802c5fe9>{thread_return+0} > <ffffffff8012e937>{do_setitimer+936} > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: > <ffffffff8834423e>{:vmmon:LinuxDriver_CompatIoctl+35} > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: > <ffffffff801980ac>{compat_sys_ioctl+206} <ffffffff80119ca5>{ia32_sysret+0} > [...] > > Regards, > Ulrich > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users-- Dave: Just a question. What use is a unicyle with no seat? And no pedals! Mark: To answer a question with a question: What use is a skateboard? Dave: Skateboards have wheels. Mark: My wheel has a wheel! _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Tim Post
2006-Oct-21 14:13 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Trouble trying to use vmware within XEN Dom0
Does anyone happen to remember what build and kernel (Xen) would run rather happily under VMWare? I''m in a kind of odd position where I need to go through the motions of doing it before some ''powers that be'' accept the absurdity of the idea being used in production. I''d also point out that people should be required to take a test and get a license before owning a hosting company. Sort of like the Russian doll, in a doll, in a doll. I''d love to tinker with it in the lab however. IIRC it was 2.0.7, but v2 changed so much so fast now that we''re at 3.0.3, its kind of a blur :) I remember folks posting some success with it, but no longer have the list archived locally .. and can''t seem to turn it up in Google. I found this : http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2005-04/msg00405.html But I''m positive this was a success story and an indication of the nuances encountered while getting it to go. I Don''t remember the machine type or platform, but I''m positive it wasn''t Fedora. Many thanks Mark if you happen to recall! Best, -Tim On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 04:10 +0100, Mark Williamson wrote:> > Yes, Xen will not work on top of VMWare, for exactly the same reason - > > again, it''s theoretically possible to make it work - but I would expect > > that it''s not on the top of VMWares or Xen''s list of things to do... ;-) > > Actually, it certainly used to run. There used to be a few hacks in Xen > specifically to make development running on VMware easier... > > IIRC, VMware wants to do things it just *can''t* do in a Xen dom0, whereas dom0 > and Xen do (mostly) valid things from the PoV of VMware. > > The only thing I can think of that stops Xen running in VMware is lack of > local apic support in VMware''s emulation, and the occasional VMware bug that > folks would run across. > > But, as you say, it''s not going to be top of VMware''s list to make this > work ;-) Although QEmu actually use the Xen DemoCD as a regression test, > presumably because it exercises the hardware in fairly strange ways :-) > > Cheers, > Mark > > > > > -- > > Mats > > > > > Regards, > > > Ulrich > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > On 10/6/06, Ulrich Windl <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > it seems using vmware within XEN is the ultimate test for XEN. > > > > > Unfortunately it > > > > > does not work (SLES10 on x86_64 (latest) with VMware > > > > > > Server 1.0.1): > > > > > The Linux gets an Oops or panic: > > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: CPU 2 > > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Modules linked in: vmnet > > > > > > parport_pc > > > > > > > > parport vmm > > > > > on xt_physdev xt_pkttype ipt_LOG xt_limit bridge blkbk > > > > > > netbk netloop nfsd > > > > > > > > eeprom > > > > > exportfs lockd lm92 nfs_acl adm1026 hwmon_vid hwmon > > > > > > sunrpc i2c_isa sr_mod > > > > > > > > af_pa > > > > > cket button battery ac ip6t_REJECT xt_tcpudp ipt_REJECT xt_state > > > > > iptable_mangle > > > > > iptable_nat ip_nat iptable_filter ip6table_mangle > > > > > > ip_conntrack nfnetlink > > > > > > > > ip_tabl > > > > > es ip6table_filter ip6_tables x_tables ipv6 loop > > > > > > usb_storage usbhid dm_mod > > > > > > > > hw_ra > > > > > ndom i2c_amd8111 i2c_amd756 i2c_core ide_cd ohci_hcd > > > > > > usbcore e1000 cdrom > > > > > > > > shpchp > > > > > pci_hotplug reiserfs fan thermal processor sg mptsas > > > > > > mptscsih mptbase > > > > > > > > scsi_trans > > > > > port_sas amd74xx sd_mod scsi_mod ide_disk ide_core > > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Pid: 7300, comm: > > > > > > vmware-vmx Tainted: > > > > > P U 2. > > > > > 6.16.21-0.25-xen #1 > > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: RIP: e030:[<ffffffff883483a2>] > > > > > <ffffffff883483a > > > > > 2>{:vmmon:Task_Switch+503} > > > > > [...] > > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Process vmware-vmx (pid: > > > > > > 7300, threadinfo > > > > > > > > ffff8 > > > > > 803bccba000, task ffff8803ea591880) > > > > > [...] > > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: Call Trace: > > > > > <ffffffff8834ac5e>{:vmmon:Vmx86_RunVM+63} > > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: > > > > > <ffffffff88343a8e>{:vmmon:LinuxDriver_Ioctl+317} > > > > > <ffffffff8010d7e7>{monotonic_clock+53} > > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 > > > > > kernel: <ffffffff802c5fe9>{thread_return+0} > > > > > <ffffffff8012e937>{do_setitimer+936} > > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 kernel: > > > > > <ffffffff8834423e>{:vmmon:LinuxDriver_CompatIoctl+35} > > > > > Oct 6 11:05:34 rkdvmso1 > > > > > kernel: <ffffffff801980ac>{compat_sys_ioctl+206} > > > > > <ffffffff80119ca5>{ia32_sysret+0} > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Ulrich > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Xen-users mailing list > > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > -- > Dave: Just a question. What use is a unicyle with no seat? And no pedals! > Mark: To answer a question with a question: What use is a skateboard? > Dave: Skateboards have wheels. > Mark: My wheel has a wheel! > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users