Jan Albrecht
2006-Sep-04 06:47 UTC
[Xen-users] Brolen virtual machines after updates host system
Hi all, I''ve a little problem here. I''m using SuSE 10.1 as a host system. I had various virtual machines (debian,centos,SuSE,...) running on it. Last week I did a full upgrade on the host system, even a new kernel. After the upgrade all virtual systems had problems, which lasted in not be able to boot systems. I know what happened, but my question: Is there a way to upgrade a host system without needing to touch the virtual machines? Or do I always have to patch a virtual host after patching the host system itself? Would this be possible with the virtual system supporting hardware from Intel/AMD? Thanks Jan -- http://blog.salid.de _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Galileon Galilei
2006-Sep-04 10:05 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Brolen virtual machines after updates host system
you upgraded the host kernel? in this case, is the new one xen-enabled? because the domain0 kernel should always be modified for xen... if it is xen-modified, is xend running? open a console, type xm list to see if the dom0 is listed....if your new kernel is not xen-modified, (plus maybe xen isnt loading at all), you should still have an option to boot into the old kernel thru grub when you start the computer... On 9/4/06, Jan Albrecht <jan.albrecht@gmail.com> wrote:> > Hi all, > > I''ve a little problem here. > I''m using SuSE 10.1 as a host system. I had various virtual machines > (debian,centos,SuSE,...) running on it. > Last week I did a full upgrade on the host system, even a new kernel. > After the upgrade all virtual systems had problems, which lasted in > not be able to boot systems. > > I know what happened, but my question: Is there a way to upgrade a > host system without needing to touch the virtual machines? Or do I > always have to patch a virtual host after patching the host system > itself? > Would this be possible with the virtual system supporting hardware > from Intel/AMD? > > Thanks > Jan > > -- > http://blog.salid.de > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Jan Albrecht
2006-Sep-04 11:00 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Brolen virtual machines after updates host system
I upgraded the dom0 Kernel. And yes, it is modified (by openSuSE) for XEN. My poblem is, that I need to have to modfiy the virtual guests (i.e. copy the correct kernel modules into their filesystems). My question is, if there is any way to get around this (as we''re plan to use various instaces of XEN guests without touching them at every update)? Thanks J Galileon Galilei wrote:> you upgraded the host kernel? in this case, is the new one > xen-enabled? because the domain0 kernel should always be modified for > xen... > > if it is xen-modified, is xend running? open a console, type > > xm list > > > to see if the dom0 is listed....if your new kernel is not > xen-modified, (plus maybe xen isnt loading at all), you should still > have an option to boot into the old kernel thru grub when you start > the computer... > > > On 9/4/06, *Jan Albrecht* <jan.albrecht@gmail.com > <mailto:jan.albrecht@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I''ve a little problem here. > I''m using SuSE 10.1 as a host system. I had various virtual machines > (debian,centos,SuSE,...) running on it. > Last week I did a full upgrade on the host system, even a new kernel. > After the upgrade all virtual systems had problems, which lasted in > not be able to boot systems. > > I know what happened, but my question: Is there a way to upgrade a > host system without needing to touch the virtual machines? Or do I > always have to patch a virtual host after patching the host system > itself? > Would this be possible with the virtual system supporting hardware > from Intel/AMD? > > Thanks > Jan > > -- > http://blog.salid.de > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com <mailto:Xen-users@lists.xensource.com> > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Kris Doosje
2006-Sep-04 11:03 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] Brolen virtual machines after updates host system
Do you have two kernels on your Xen-server, one for dom0 and one for domU? If you use your dom0 kernel also for your domU''s, then ofcourse you need to copy the correct kernel modules to the virtual-servers'' filesystems. If you have a seperate kernel for your domU''s, and that one does not change, you don''t need to update the virtual-servers in any way after doing updates on the dom0 kernel. - Kris -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Jan Albrecht [mailto:jan.albrecht@gmail.com] Verzonden: maandag 4 september 2006 13:00 Aan: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Onderwerp: Re: [Xen-users] Brolen virtual machines after updates host system I upgraded the dom0 Kernel. And yes, it is modified (by openSuSE) for XEN. My poblem is, that I need to have to modfiy the virtual guests (i.e. copy the correct kernel modules into their filesystems). My question is, if there is any way to get around this (as we''re plan to use various instaces of XEN guests without touching them at every update)? Thanks J Galileon Galilei wrote:> you upgraded the host kernel? in this case, is the new one > xen-enabled? because the domain0 kernel should always be modified for > xen... > > if it is xen-modified, is xend running? open a console, type > > xm list > > > to see if the dom0 is listed....if your new kernel is not > xen-modified, (plus maybe xen isnt loading at all), you should still > have an option to boot into the old kernel thru grub when you start > the computer... > > > On 9/4/06, *Jan Albrecht* <jan.albrecht@gmail.com > <mailto:jan.albrecht@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I''ve a little problem here. > I''m using SuSE 10.1 as a host system. I had various virtual machines > (debian,centos,SuSE,...) running on it. > Last week I did a full upgrade on the host system, even a new kernel. > After the upgrade all virtual systems had problems, which lasted in > not be able to boot systems. > > I know what happened, but my question: Is there a way to upgrade a > host system without needing to touch the virtual machines? Or do I > always have to patch a virtual host after patching the host system > itself? > Would this be possible with the virtual system supporting hardware > from Intel/AMD? > > Thanks > Jan > > -- > http://blog.salid.de > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com <mailto:Xen-users@lists.xensource.com> > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Galileon Galilei
2006-Sep-04 13:57 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Brolen virtual machines after updates host system
did you update the guest kernels as well? coz if you did, then they will need the new /lib/modules... you can also update the host and leave the guest kernels alone...that way nothing has to be done for them On 9/4/06, Kris Doosje <k.doosje@nido.nl> wrote:> > Do you have two kernels on your Xen-server, one for dom0 and one for domU? > If you use your dom0 kernel also for your domU''s, then ofcourse you need to > copy the correct kernel modules to the virtual-servers'' filesystems. If you > have a seperate kernel for your domU''s, and that one does not change, you > don''t need to update the virtual-servers in any way after doing updates on > the dom0 kernel. > > - Kris > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Jan Albrecht [mailto:jan.albrecht@gmail.com] > Verzonden: maandag 4 september 2006 13:00 > Aan: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Onderwerp: Re: [Xen-users] Brolen virtual machines after updates host > system > > > I upgraded the dom0 Kernel. And yes, it is modified (by openSuSE) for XEN. > > My poblem is, that I need to have to modfiy the virtual guests (i.e. > copy the correct kernel modules into their filesystems). > My question is, if there is any way to get around this (as we''re plan to > use various instaces of XEN guests without touching them at every update)? > > Thanks > J > > Galileon Galilei wrote: > > you upgraded the host kernel? in this case, is the new one > > xen-enabled? because the domain0 kernel should always be modified for > > xen... > > > > if it is xen-modified, is xend running? open a console, type > > > > xm list > > > > > > to see if the dom0 is listed....if your new kernel is not > > xen-modified, (plus maybe xen isnt loading at all), you should still > > have an option to boot into the old kernel thru grub when you start > > the computer... > > > > > > On 9/4/06, *Jan Albrecht* <jan.albrecht@gmail.com > > <mailto:jan.albrecht@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I''ve a little problem here. > > I''m using SuSE 10.1 as a host system. I had various virtual machines > > (debian,centos,SuSE,...) running on it. > > Last week I did a full upgrade on the host system, even a new > kernel. > > After the upgrade all virtual systems had problems, which lasted in > > not be able to boot systems. > > > > I know what happened, but my question: Is there a way to upgrade a > > host system without needing to touch the virtual machines? Or do I > > always have to patch a virtual host after patching the host system > > itself? > > Would this be possible with the virtual system supporting hardware > > from Intel/AMD? > > > > Thanks > > Jan > > > > -- > > http://blog.salid.de > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com <mailto:Xen-users@lists.xensource.com> > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Steffen Heil
2006-Sep-04 17:30 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] Brolen virtual machines after updates host system
Hi> My poblem is, that I need to have to modfiy the virtual guests (i.e. > copy the correct kernel modules into their filesystems).So you updated the domUs kernels when updating the dom0 kernel? That''s the problem. Make a copy (or hardlink) of each used kernel for each guest and let the guests use those copies. So they have their kernel and will work independently of updates. You can then also update domUs kernels distinctly...> My question is, if there is any way to get around this (as we''re plan > to use various instaces of XEN guests without touching them at every > update)?See above. Regards, Steffen _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users