hi, all
I want to use windows xp in xen vitual machine, but I find nothing
about that except the name of Intel Virtualization Technology.
Is there anyone knows the howto, please help me, thank you:) I will
apreciate it, thanks very much!
Phinux Chang
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> I want to use windows xp in xen vitual machine, but I find nothing > about that except the name of Intel Virtualization Technology.You need hardware from Intel that supports VMX, or hardware from AMD that supports SVM. Intel''s is already available through some channels but not widely shipped. AMD''s is due for release later this year. With that, Xen can provide the illusion of a whole machine, avoiding the need to port Windows to it. The original Xen-aware Windows port ran on unmodified hardware but can''t be distributed due to licensing reasons (also, I believe it wasn''t feature complete). Cheers, Mark> Is there anyone knows the howto, please help me, thank you:) I will > apreciate it, thanks very much! > > > Phinux Chang-- Dave: Just a question. What use is a unicyle with no seat? And no pedals! Mark: To answer a question with a question: What use is a skateboard? Dave: Skateboards have wheels. Mark: My wheel has a wheel! _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi> I want to use windows xp in xen vitual machine, but I find > nothing about that except the name of Intel Virtualization Technology. > > Is there anyone knows the howto, please help me, thank > you:) I will apreciate it, thanks very much!You cannot. You need the Windows sources and patcht them (and write that patch though). Or you need to run it with Hardware Virtualization. If you don''t have that, you cannot. Regards, Steffen _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of > Phinux Chang > Sent: 22 March 2006 06:47 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: [Xen-users] help: ports of windows > > hi, all > > I want to use windows xp in xen vitual machine, but I find > nothing about that except the name of Intel Virtualization Technology. > > Is there anyone knows the howto, please help me, thank > you:) I will apreciate it, thanks very much!Well, the guys at XenSource have done it. The "Howto" is both rather trivial and very complicated: 1. Get source code for Windows. 2. Apply suitable modifications to source code (probably available from XenSource if you have a documentable Windows source license). Although I think patches may not be up to date with Xen 3.0.x 3. Go run it. The difficult part of this is getting a source license from Microsoft - they do not come with your breakfast cereals as a freebie ;-). More like you have to pay millions of dollars and sign away the rest of your life to get it... Without source license to Windows, you haven''t got a chance, except for getting a processor that supports full virtualization - or using another virtualization technology which doesn''t rely on Xen and modifications to the source code of the OS. There are several of those available. -- Mats> > > > Phinux Chang > > -- > Phinux Chang > JiangSu Linux Public Technical Service Center > http://www.jslc.org.cn > Tel: +86 25 84815160 Fax: +86 25 > 84815160 > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi, Petersson
Thank you firstly.
are you kidding, windows source, my god:)
The cpu of my notebook is Pentium M, and it does''t support Intel
Virtualization Technology.
Is there a compromised method? why not patch windows just like
windows patch from the Microsoft official? or anybody who has the source
code of windows sends me a copy:)
Petersson, Mats ??:
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com
>>[mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of
>>Phinux Chang
>>Sent: 22 March 2006 06:47
>>To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
>>Subject: [Xen-users] help: ports of windows
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>>hi, all
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>> I want to use windows xp in xen vitual machine, but I find
>>nothing about that except the name of Intel Virtualization Technology.
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>> Is there anyone knows the howto, please help me, thank
>>you:) I will apreciate it, thanks very much!
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>Well, the guys at XenSource have done it. The "Howto" is both
rather
>trivial and very complicated:
>1. Get source code for Windows.
>2. Apply suitable modifications to source code (probably available from
>XenSource if you have a documentable Windows source license). Although I
>think patches may not be up to date with Xen 3.0.x
>3. Go run it.
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>The difficult part of this is getting a source license from Microsoft -
>they do not come with your breakfast cereals as a freebie ;-). More like
>you have to pay millions of dollars and sign away the rest of your life
>to get it...
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>Without source license to Windows, you haven''t got a chance, except
for
>getting a processor that supports full virtualization - or using another
>virtualization technology which doesn''t rely on Xen and
modifications to
>the source code of the OS. There are several of those available.
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>--
>Mats
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>>Phinux Chang
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>>Phinux Chang
>>JiangSu Linux Public Technical Service Center
>>http://www.jslc.org.cn
>>Tel: +86 25 84815160 Fax: +86 25
>>84815160
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Well, Xen in it''s original form was and is a Para-virtualized virtual machine monitor (hypervisor). It RELIES on modifications of the source code of the OS to inform the hypervisor of important changes to critical registers, i/o accesses, etc, etc. Since then, there''s been support added for HVM (Hardware Virtual Machine), but that requires a new CPU that has the Virtualization features... If Microsoft wanted to, they COULD release a version of Windows that supports Para-virtualization on top of Xen, but my guess is that the reasons they don''t do this is many: 1. MS don''t believe in the Open Source community - or at least do not want to be seen to support it. 2. MS has their own Virtual Server that they want to promote instead of Xen. More reasons are quite likely - but I wouldn''t really know what. There are of course other virtualization software sets that would run on machines with no OS modifications, and with no hardware support for virtualization. VMWare is one, there are others too. I doubt anyone with access to Windows Source would actually send you a copy - that would definitely be a BIG breach of the licensing contract. ;-) -- Mats ________________________________ From: Phinux Chang [mailto:phinuxchang@gmail.com] Sent: 23 March 2006 10:44 To: Petersson, Mats; xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-users] help: ports of windows Hi, Petersson Thank you firstly. are you kidding, windows source, my god:) The cpu of my notebook is Pentium M, and it does''t support Intel Virtualization Technology. Is there a compromised method? why not patch windows just like windows patch from the Microsoft official? or anybody who has the source code of windows sends me a copy:) Petersson, Mats 写道: -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Phinux Chang Sent: 22 March 2006 06:47 To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: [Xen-users] help: ports of windows hi, all I want to use windows xp in xen vitual machine, but I find nothing about that except the name of Intel Virtualization Technology. Is there anyone knows the howto, please help me, thank you:) I will apreciate it, thanks very much! Well, the guys at XenSource have done it. The "Howto" is both rather trivial and very complicated: 1. Get source code for Windows. 2. Apply suitable modifications to source code (probably available from XenSource if you have a documentable Windows source license). Although I think patches may not be up to date with Xen 3.0.x 3. Go run it. The difficult part of this is getting a source license from Microsoft - they do not come with your breakfast cereals as a freebie ;-). More like you have to pay millions of dollars and sign away the rest of your life to get it... Without source license to Windows, you haven''t got a chance, except for getting a processor that supports full virtualization - or using another virtualization technology which doesn''t rely on Xen and modifications to the source code of the OS. There are several of those available. -- Mats Phinux Chang -- Phinux Chang JiangSu Linux Public Technical Service Center http://www.jslc.org.cn Tel: +86 25 84815160 Fax: +86 25 84815160 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users -- Phinux Chang JiangSu Linux Public Technical Service Center http://www.jslc.org.cn Tel: +86 25 84815160 Fax: +86 25 84815160 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users