-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I have dual xeon with debian sarge 32 bit. How can I determine if I have a good workaround with VT? A 64 bit OS is it necessary? Here the first cpu with cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 4 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz stepping : 3 cpu MHz : 2801.636 cache size : 2048 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 5 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm pni monitor ds_cpl cid bogomips : 5554.17 Regards -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFEGx91Nxpp46476aoRAv0BAJ43gjSR+yW8heiIMXmdW0WSgLIVBACfbbRW x+AaxB+4jKtIikgapoMAnro=p26+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Dnia piątek, 17 marca 2006 21:43, Giuseppe Iuculano napisał:> Hello, > > I have dual xeon with debian sarge 32 bit. > > How can I determine if I have a good workaround with VT? A 64 bit OS is > it necessary?I heard about vmware utility making this - try search archivum or google. For example my cpufino (pentium d 920): processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 6 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz stepping : 2 cpu MHz : 2800.832 cache size : 2048 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 1 core id : 255 cpu cores : 1 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 6 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm pni monitor ds_cpl vmx cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm bogomips : 5609.14 processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 6 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz stepping : 2 cpu MHz : 2800.832 cache size : 2048 KB physical id : 255 siblings : 1 core id : 255 cpu cores : 1 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 6 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm pni monitor ds_cpl vmx cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm bogomips : 5600.90 -- __ __ Rafał Zawadzki [jid/mail: bluszcz@jabberpl.org, skype: blvszcz] | |--.| |.--.--.-----.-----.----.-----. [www: http://bluszcz.jabberpl.org] | _ || || | |__ --|-- __| __|-- __| [ http://pyrss.jabberstudio.org/ ] |_____||__||_____|_____|_____|____|_____| つた _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Giuseppe Iuculano
2006-Mar-20 14:00 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] How can I check Intel VT technology
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Rafal Zawadzki ha scritto:> I heard about vmware utility making this - try search archivum or google. >It works only in 64 bit OS> For example my cpufino (pentium d 920): > > processor : 0 > vendor_id : GenuineIntel > cpu family : 15 > model : 6 > model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz > stepping : 2 > cpu MHz : 2800.832 > cache size : 2048 KB > physical id : 0 > siblings : 1 > core id : 255 > cpu cores : 1 > fdiv_bug : no > hlt_bug : no > f00f_bug : no > coma_bug : no > fpu : yes > fpu_exception : yes > cpuid level : 6 > wp : yes > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca > cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm pni monitor > ds_cpl vmx cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm > bogomips : 5609.14So you have vmx flag, Have you a 64 bit os installed? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFEHrVuNxpp46476aoRAthiAJ45gj+Ngeq9Hc/t9njsMQRpN7DnEgCglehL G0a4pxi9YNqg/8bgmybddAE=ffIJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
### Giuseppe Iuculano <giuseppe@iuculano.it> wrote message to xen-users@lists.xensource.com ### ### this is reply for: Re: [Xen-users] How can I check Intel VT technology ###> Rafal Zawadzki ha scritto: > > I heard about vmware utility making this - try search archivum or google. > > It works only in 64 bit OS > > > For example my cpufino (pentium d 920): > > > > processor : 0 > > vendor_id : GenuineIntel > > cpu family : 15 > > model : 6 > > model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz > > stepping : 2 > > cpu MHz : 2800.832 > > cache size : 2048 KB > > physical id : 0 > > siblings : 1 > > core id : 255 > > cpu cores : 1 > > fdiv_bug : no > > hlt_bug : no > > f00f_bug : no > > coma_bug : no > > fpu : yes > > fpu_exception : yes > > cpuid level : 6 > > wp : yes > > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge > > mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm pni > > monitor ds_cpl vmx cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm > > bogomips : 5609.14 > > So you have vmx flag, Have you a 64 bit os installed?This one is from 32bit system (64 bit linux for desktop is so poor). -- Rafał Zawadzki Deploy/Release Manager eo Networks Sp. z o.o. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Giuseppe Iuculano
2006-Mar-21 09:20 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] How can I check Intel VT technology
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Rafal Zawadzki ha scritto:>>> I heard about vmware utility making this - try search archivum or google. >> It works only in 64 bit OS >> >>> For example my cpufino (pentium d 920): >>> >>> processor : 0 >>> vendor_id : GenuineIntel >>> cpu family : 15 >>> model : 6 >>> model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz >>> stepping : 2 >>> cpu MHz : 2800.832 >>> cache size : 2048 KB >>> physical id : 0 >>> siblings : 1 >>> core id : 255 >>> cpu cores : 1 >>> fdiv_bug : no >>> hlt_bug : no >>> f00f_bug : no >>> coma_bug : no >>> fpu : yes >>> fpu_exception : yes >>> cpuid level : 6 >>> wp : yes >>> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge >>> mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm pni >>> monitor ds_cpl vmx cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm >>> bogomips : 5609.14 >> So you have vmx flag, Have you a 64 bit os installed? > > This one is from 32bit system (64 bit linux for desktop is so poor).Argh.. so I don''t understand why my dual xeon is not recognized as an Intel VT Platform.. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFEH8TfNxpp46476aoRAuWdAJ42cH3ASYRBuiqLzPN+7MSN5jkP/wCfS4By vGxnB9R4zbx3FmQmZpki8J0=Xhpz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> > This one is from 32bit system (64 bit linux for desktop is so poor). > > Argh.. so I don''t understand why my dual xeon is not recognized as an > Intel VT Platform..What model of cpu owns you? -- Rafał Zawadzki Deploy/Release Manager eo Networks Sp. z o.o. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
What is the exact cpu model # and have you updated the bios to the latest from 1/25/06? Adam Wendt IPCoast, Inc. On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:21 , Giuseppe Iuculano <giuseppe@iuculano.it> sent:>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Ralf Schmitt ha scritto: >> Giuseppe Iuculano wrote: >> >>> Argh.. so I don''t understand why my dual xeon is not recognized as an >>> Intel VT Platform.. >> >> Have you activated VMX in the BIOS? >> > >Hmm I don''t find any VMX option... So, doesn''t support it? > >I have a Supermicro X6DHR-TG, here details: >http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon800/E7520/X6DHR-TG.cfm > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (MingW32) > >iD8DBQFEIG5XNxpp46476aoRAg5mAKCOmxwiVygRtpWoeXYGCpCcQzpD9gCfbXLB >Un66gKQQPwYqqVwPR+p4HmI>=xi3I >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >_______________________________________________ >Xen-users mailing list >Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Latest bios update is essential to getting VT to work on all current systems that I know of. And that doesn''t tell me the model # of the cpu, probably need to ask the person who built the system what the cpu model # is. Adam Wendt IPCoast, Inc. On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:45 , Giuseppe Iuculano <giuseppe@iuculano.it> sent:>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Adam Wendt ha scritto: >> What is the exact cpu model # and have you updated the bios to the latest from >> 1/25/06? >> > >It Is a dual CPU XEON 2.8Ghz 2MB FSB800 DP > >Here the /proc/cpuinfo > > ># cat /proc/cpuinfo >processor : 0 >vendor_id : GenuineIntel >cpu family : 15 >model : 4 >model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz >stepping : 3 >cpu MHz : 2800.096 >cache size : 2048 KB >fdiv_bug : no >hlt_bug : yes >f00f_bug : no >coma_bug : no >fpu : yes >fpu_exception : yes >cpuid level : 5 >wp : yes >flags : fpu tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr mca cmov pat pse36 >clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm pni monitor ds_cpl >cid cx16 xtpr >bogomips : 5596.77 > > > >I haven''t updated bios, it is a remote box, not localy, but MB is new... > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (MingW32) > >iD8DBQFEIHQQNxpp46476aoRAncwAKCcKkBlxn/opVwMmaaOhIrIAvD6ugCcDE2O >/dR6ok7e0C85lAQd8ZiG0Q8>=epku >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Giuseppe Iuculano wrote:> Argh.. so I don''t understand why my dual xeon is not recognized as an > Intel VT Platform..Have you activated VMX in the BIOS? _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Giuseppe Iuculano
2006-Mar-21 21:21 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] How can I check Intel VT technology
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ralf Schmitt ha scritto:> Giuseppe Iuculano wrote: > >> Argh.. so I don''t understand why my dual xeon is not recognized as an >> Intel VT Platform.. > > Have you activated VMX in the BIOS? >Hmm I don''t find any VMX option... So, doesn''t support it? I have a Supermicro X6DHR-TG, here details: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon800/E7520/X6DHR-TG.cfm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFEIG5XNxpp46476aoRAg5mAKCOmxwiVygRtpWoeXYGCpCcQzpD9gCfbXLB Un66gKQQPwYqqVwPR+p4HmI=xi3I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Giuseppe Iuculano
2006-Mar-21 21:45 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] How can I check Intel VT technology
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Adam Wendt ha scritto:> What is the exact cpu model # and have you updated the bios to the latest from > 1/25/06? >It Is a dual CPU XEON 2.8Ghz 2MB FSB800 DP Here the /proc/cpuinfo # cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 4 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz stepping : 3 cpu MHz : 2800.096 cache size : 2048 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : yes f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 5 wp : yes flags : fpu tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm pni monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr bogomips : 5596.77 I haven''t updated bios, it is a remote box, not localy, but MB is new... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFEIHQQNxpp46476aoRAncwAKCcKkBlxn/opVwMmaaOhIrIAvD6ugCcDE2O /dR6ok7e0C85lAQd8ZiG0Q8=epku -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
>Hmm I don''t find any VMX option... So, doesn''t support it?is it a Xeon-processor? If so probably it is not supported because the first Xeon that supports VT will be the Dempsey in the Bensley-plattform which is not yet available! See (in german only): http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63203 http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63231 http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/64757 http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/70443 http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/70489 -- Chau y hasta luego, Thorolf _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hello All I have been lurking on this list for some time... I just spoke to Intel about VT enabled chips. Here is the list Pentium Extreme 955 Pentium D 950, 940, 930, 920 Xeons are not supported regards Robert Slater www.synaptics.com.au Thorolf Godawa wrote:>> Hmm I don''t find any VMX option... So, doesn''t support it? > > is it a Xeon-processor? > > If so probably it is not supported because the first Xeon that supports > VT will be the Dempsey in the Bensley-plattform which is not yet > available! > > See (in german only): > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63203 > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63231 > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/64757 > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/70443 > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/70489_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hello Robert, Pentium 4 672 and 662 are also VT enabled. http://www.intel.com/products/processor/pentium4/index.htm?info=EXLINK (you can find this information in "View Processor Number details" I''m still waiting for a notebook with a VT CPU. Everybody sais, that the T2x00 processors are not enabled yet. But (Sorry ... the link is very long) http://www.pintmaster.com/wordpress/index.php/20060131/mac-os-x-and-xen-optimizer-is-this-relationship-the-future-of-windows-on-the-mac/ ---Begin----------------------------------------------------------------- I just emailed Xen about this. Here is their reply: Stephen I read the blog, and it’s wildly inaccurate. Here are some facts - feel free to put them on the blog as followup if you’d like: 1. Yes, one could run theoretically Win/Tiger on Xen, on a new Intel Mac however I personally have yet to see Xen run on the new Macs. 2. XenSource is not working on this as a product right now, but someone in the Xen community may be. Regards Simon ---End------------------------------------------------------------------ If you have a look at "/proc/cpuinfo" on a MacBook Pro you will find "VMX" and the IBM Thinkpad T60 has a BIOS option to enable VMX ... is this a fake??? Robert wrote:> Hello All > I have been lurking on this list for some time... > > I just spoke to Intel about VT enabled chips. Here is the list > Pentium Extreme 955 > Pentium D 950, 940, 930, 920 > > Xeons are not supported > > regards > Robert Slater > www.synaptics.com.au >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
True of the two socket Xeons... The Paxville MP Xeon used in quad socket boxes does support VT. These are the 7000 series Dual Core processors. Of course, you need an updated BIOS as well. - Jim -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:32 PM To: Thorolf Godawa Cc: xen-users Subject: Re: [Xen-users] How can I check Intel VT technology Hello All I have been lurking on this list for some time... I just spoke to Intel about VT enabled chips. Here is the list Pentium Extreme 955 Pentium D 950, 940, 930, 920 Xeons are not supported regards Robert Slater www.synaptics.com.au Thorolf Godawa wrote:>> Hmm I don''t find any VMX option... So, doesn''t support it? > > is it a Xeon-processor? > > If so probably it is not supported because the first Xeon thatsupports> VT will be the Dempsey in the Bensley-plattform which is not yet > available! > > See (in german only): > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63203 > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63231 > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/64757 > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/70443 > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/70489_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi All. I though it might be of use to get supported chips all on one thread. It''s an itch: I am scratching. The list so far.. Out of the Box Intel. All below are dual core. Pentium Extreme 955 Pentium D 950, 940, 930, 920 With Bios Update. Paxville MP Xeon Quad Socket 7000 Series Dual Core Celeron D ? AMD ? Barlow, Jim D wrote:>True of the two socket Xeons... > >The Paxville MP Xeon used in quad socket boxes does support VT. > >These are the 7000 series Dual Core processors. Of course, you need an >updated BIOS as well. > >- Jim > >-----Original Message----- >From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com >[mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Robert >Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:32 PM >To: Thorolf Godawa >Cc: xen-users >Subject: Re: [Xen-users] How can I check Intel VT technology > >Hello All >I have been lurking on this list for some time... > >I just spoke to Intel about VT enabled chips. Here is the list >Pentium Extreme 955 >Pentium D 950, 940, 930, 920 > >Xeons are not supported > >regards >Robert Slater >www.synaptics.com.au > > >Thorolf Godawa wrote: > > > >>>Hmm I don''t find any VMX option... So, doesn''t support it? >>> >>> >>is it a Xeon-processor? >> >>If so probably it is not supported because the first Xeon that >> >> >supports > > >>VT will be the Dempsey in the Bensley-plattform which is not yet >>available! >> >>See (in german only): >>http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63203 >>http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63231 >>http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/64757 >>http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/70443 >>http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/70489 >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Xen-users mailing list >Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ >Xen-users mailing list >Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi, The Intel Processor Identification Utility is used to check your intel processor, so get it form www.intel.com or you can view the processor number details from http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/index_view_pentium_m.htm There is no VT technology in most of the Intel processor except Petium 662, 672 and Xeon series in my view regards Phinux Chang Robert 写道:> Hi All. > I though it might be of use to get supported chips all on one thread. > It''s an itch: I am scratching. > The list so far.. > > Out of the Box Intel. All below are dual core. > > Pentium Extreme 955 > Pentium D 950, 940, 930, 920 > > With Bios Update. > Paxville MP Xeon Quad Socket 7000 Series Dual Core > > Celeron D ? > > AMD ? > > > > Barlow, Jim D wrote: > >> True of the two socket Xeons... >> >> The Paxville MP Xeon used in quad socket boxes does support VT. >> >> These are the 7000 series Dual Core processors. Of course, you need an >> updated BIOS as well. >> >> - Jim >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com >> [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Robert >> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:32 PM >> To: Thorolf Godawa >> Cc: xen-users >> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] How can I check Intel VT technology >> >> Hello All >> I have been lurking on this list for some time... >> >> I just spoke to Intel about VT enabled chips. Here is the list >> Pentium Extreme 955 >> Pentium D 950, 940, 930, 920 >> >> Xeons are not supported >> >> regards >> Robert Slater >> www.synaptics.com.au >> >> >> Thorolf Godawa wrote: >> >> >> >>>> Hmm I don''t find any VMX option... So, doesn''t support it? >>>> >>> is it a Xeon-processor? >>> >>> If so probably it is not supported because the first Xeon that >>> >> supports >> >> >>> VT will be the Dempsey in the Bensley-plattform which is not yet >>> available! >>> >>> See (in german only): >>> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63203 >>> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63231 >>> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/64757 >>> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/70443 >>> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/70489 >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-users mailing list >> Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-users mailing list >> Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >-- Phinux Chang JiangSu Linux Public Technical Service Center http://www.jslc.org.cn Tel: +86 25 84815160 Fax: +86 25 84815160 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users