Not that VMWare have released VMWare Server as a free product i''m interested in using it where my hardware isn''t VT enabled to run non-linux environments. Ideally I''d like to run it on the Xen Dom0 environment so that I can run a mixture of Linux DomU and Windows VMWare instances. Any ideas if this is feasible, and which version of Xen I should be considering. At present i''m using a Xen 2.0.7 environment. Cheers Steve _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 11:58 +1300, Steven Ellis wrote:> Not that VMWare have released VMWare Server as a free product i''m > interested in using it where my hardware isn''t VT enabled to run > non-linux environments. Ideally I''d like to run it on the Xen Dom0 > environment so that I can run a mixture of Linux DomU and Windows VMWare > instances. > > Any ideas if this is feasible, and which version of Xen I should be > considering. At present i''m using a Xen 2.0.7 environment.In my opinion, there''s a big difference between "free" as VMWare Server and Player and free as GPL free, and this is not just a political difference, this can and will affect real life usage. but this has to be discussed elsewhere. For the feasibility, it depends on the technology VMWare Server is using. If it''s a hypervisor, like xen, then I am quite sure they won''t run at the same time on the same machine. The hypervisor sits on a level between the hardware and the actual OS you are running as dom0 - so there can be only one at the time. In case VMware server is "just" a userland/kernel level Software, it should theoretically be possible to run it at the same time. This is true for VMWare Workstation. I think that only VMWare ESX Server is a hypervisor, while the others are userland/kernel level - you have to check that yourself. At least you will have some kernel compiling fun, as VMWare needs special modules. It''s hard to predict how the VMWare Technology affects Performance and how well it would work together with a xen dom0. Another way to get your Windows VM''s is trying to use Hardware Virtualisation, as soon as it''s available and working. Henning _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Friday 10 February 2006 4:46 am, Henning Sprang wrote:> For the feasibility, it depends on the technology VMWare Server is > using. If it''s a hypervisor, like xen, then I am quite sure they won''t > run at the same time on the same machine.i guess it uses a kernel module, just like kqemu. BTW, i know kqemu doesn''t work in a domU, but what about running it in a dom0? (i''m guessing not...) -- Javier _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Javier Guerra wrote:> On Friday 10 February 2006 4:46 am, Henning Sprang wrote: > >> For the feasibility, it depends on the technology VMWare Server is >> using. If it''s a hypervisor, like xen, then I am quite sure they won''t >> run at the same time on the same machine. >> > > i guess it uses a kernel module, just like kqemu. BTW, i know kqemu doesn''t > work in a domU, but what about running it in a dom0? (i''m guessing not...) >dom0 and domU has pretty much all the same restrictions. It should be possible to port qvm86 to Xen. Regards, Anthony Liguori> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
I''m note able to load the module in dom0. My system: Fedora Core 3 xen-3.0-testing qemu 0.8.0 with kqemu-1.3.0pre3 Qemu is a nice tool ... but it is still to slow. Regards Ralf Javier Guerra wrote:> On Friday 10 February 2006 4:46 am, Henning Sprang wrote: > > For the feasibility, it depends on the technology VMWare Server is > > using. If it''s a hypervisor, like xen, then I am quite sure they won''t > > run at the same time on the same machine. > > i guess it uses a kernel module, just like kqemu. BTW, i know kqemu doesn''t > work in a domU, but what about running it in a dom0? (i''m guessing not...) > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users