Has any testing of Xen using Vanderpool Technology been done? Thanks, Dave Feustel ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
>Has any testing of Xen using Vanderpool Technology been done?Yes - works just fine. We can currently support an unmodified Linux kernel with fully virtualized devices, etc. YMMV getting your hands on a VT-x box though - they''re not widely available just yet. cheers, S. ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 03:39 am, Steven Hand wrote:> > >Has any testing of Xen using Vanderpool Technology been done? > > Yes - works just fine. We can currently support an unmodified > Linux kernel with fully virtualized devices, etc. > > YMMV getting your hands on a VT-x box though - they''re not > widely available just yet.This is encouraging! Is AMD implementing Vanderpool or something else? Thanks, Dave Feustel ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
> On Wednesday 16 February 2005 03:39 am, Steven Hand wrote: > > > > >Has any testing of Xen using Vanderpool Technology been done? > > > > Yes - works just fine. We can currently support an unmodified > > Linux kernel with fully virtualized devices, etc. > > > > YMMV getting your hands on a VT-x box though - they''re not > > widely available just yet. > > This is encouraging! Is AMD implementing Vanderpool or something else?AMD has announced a technology called Pacifica which is likely to be similar to VT (i.e. it''s targeted at the same space), but there are no public documents or release timescales as yet. I think they had alluded to Q405 at some point, and yesterday at LinuxWorld some reports claim Q205, but don''t think there''s an "official" release date. cheers, S. ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 06:24 am, Steven Hand wrote:> > > On Wednesday 16 February 2005 03:39 am, Steven Hand wrote: > > > > > > >Has any testing of Xen using Vanderpool Technology been done? > > > > > > Yes - works just fine. We can currently support an unmodified > > > Linux kernel with fully virtualized devices, etc. > > > > > > YMMV getting your hands on a VT-x box though - they''re not > > > widely available just yet. > > > > This is encouraging! Is AMD implementing Vanderpool or something else? > > AMD has announced a technology called Pacifica which is likely to > be similar to VT (i.e. it''s targeted at the same space), but there > are no public documents or release timescales as yet. I think they > had alluded to Q405 at some point, and yesterday at LinuxWorld some > reports claim Q205, but don''t think there''s an "official" release > date.Yes. I saw the release but was unable to locate any technical docs. My question about Intel/Vanderpool was prompted by printing out and reading the preliminary Vanderpool specs. Is the Vanderpool-based VM monitor code OS-specific or will the code that you have run Linux with work for other operating systems? ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Are you running on a Vanderpool SDV or the real hardware itself? How about Windows XP and W3K Server? Is there any work being done to get them running on Xen with VT-x? Aravindh -----Original Message----- From: xen-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:xen-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Steven Hand Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:39 AM To: dfeustel@mindspring.com Cc: xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Steven.Hand@cl.cam.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Xen and Vanderpool>Has any testing of Xen using Vanderpool Technology been done?Yes - works just fine. We can currently support an unmodified Linux kernel with fully virtualized devices, etc. YMMV getting your hands on a VT-x box though - they''re not widely available just yet. cheers, S. ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95&alloc_id396&op=click _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Steve, I have a couple of questions about the support of Vanderpool by Xen : "Yes - works just fine. We can currently support an unmodified Linux kernel with fully virtualized devices, etc." I assume that for the virtualized devices you are using the same Front-End device drivers as the current ones. Correct ? The work necessary to take benefit of the Vanderpool Technology should be located in the Xen hypervisor. Does this require a brand new development or only some changes to the current hypervisor ? Will most of these changes be compatible for the support of Vanderpool on IA64 or will the work have to be done twice (for IA32 then for IA64) ? Regards Jean-Paul
BTW, docs/misc/VMX_changes.txt would answer such questions. Jun ________________________________________ From: xen-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:xen-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of jean-paul.pigache@bull.net Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:09 AM To: Steven Hand Cc: xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Xen-devel] Xen and Vanderpool Steve, I have a couple of questions about the support of Vanderpool by Xen : "Yes - works just fine. We can currently support an unmodified Linux kernel with fully virtualized devices, etc." I assume that for the virtualized devices you are using the same Front-End device drivers as the current ones. Correct ? The work necessary to take benefit of the Vanderpool Technology should be located in the Xen hypervisor. Does this require a brand new development or only some changes to the current hypervisor ? Will most of these changes be compatible for the support of Vanderpool on IA64 or will the work have to be done twice (for IA32 then for IA64) ? Regards Jean-Paul ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95&alloc_id396&op=click _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
> Are you running on a Vanderpool SDV or the real hardware itself? How > about Windows XP and W3K Server? Is there any work being done to get > them running on Xen with VT-x?We have some hardware which Intel generously donated to us. There''s no support for WinXP etc since we currently only deal with 32-bit code (i.e. no 16 bit stuff or virtual BIOS etc). Some of this is trivial but boring, some is a bit more gory. As Jun has also mentioned on the list, you can get further details on the current status in docs/misc/VMX_changes.txt (in xen-unstable) cheers, S. ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
On 2/16/2005 7:08 AM, jean-paul.pigache@bull.net wrote:> > Steve, > > I have a couple of questions about the support of Vanderpool by Xen : > > "Yes - works just fine. We can currently support an unmodified > Linux kernel with fully virtualized devices, etc." > > I assume that for the virtualized devices you are using the same > Front-End device drivers as the current ones. Correct ? >No, we have done a port of Bochs (bochs.sf.net) to Xen/VT. See tools/ioemu in the unstable tree.> The work necessary to take benefit of the Vanderpool Technology should > be located in the Xen hypervisor. > Does this require a brand new development or only some changes to the > current hypervisor ? > > Will most of these changes be compatible for the support of Vanderpool > on IA64 or will the work have to be done twice (for IA32 then for IA64) ?The Bochs device models should be reusable, but most of the hypervisor code is arch specific. -Arun ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Dave Feustel wrote:> > Is the Vanderpool-based VM monitor code OS-specific or will the code > that you have run Linux with work for other operating systems? >The VT-based VM monitor code should _not_ be OS-specific, but should be written to virulize a machine. As we enhance the capabilities in the monitor, it should work for other operating systems. However, validation or support is a different thing. Jun ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95&alloc_id396&op=click _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
On Thursday 17 February 2005 09:56 am, you wrote:> Dave Feustel wrote: > > > > Is the Vanderpool-based VM monitor code OS-specific or will the code > > that you have run Linux with work for other operating systems? > > > > The VT-based VM monitor code should _not_ be OS-specific, but should be > written to virulize a machine. As we enhance the capabilities in the > monitor, it should work for other operating systems. However, validation > or support is a different thing. > > JunJun, I expect to use this technology with OpenBSD as soon as it becomes available and I have supporting hardware and software. I have been completely focused on AMD ever since I found out about AMD64, but Vanderpool Technology has pulled my interest back to Intel processors. I would very much appreciate being kept up-to-date on the progress of Intel''s VM technology. Thanks, Dave Feustel Fort Wayne, IN ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel