wine users - May 2010 - Vectorworks 2010 almost working

Hi all!

I'm trying to get the cadprogram Vectorworks 2010 (VW) run with Wine. So far
I have succeed in getting the program installed and to start up with a plain
Wine installation in PClinuxOS 2010. To get the toolboxes and everything look
normal I had to install GDI+ (gdiplus) via Winetricks.

However the drawing area is still messed up after this even if the toolboxes
look fine. On one computer with an ATI Radeon HD 4550 graphic card the drawing
area is showing a colorful noisy pixel view (hard to explain), and on my Laptop
with an ATI X1200 graphic card the drawing area is black. Even if I can't
see what I?m drawing it?s possible to draw lines etc and save the file, the
object are there when I open the file with VW in Windows.

I have seen that VW 2008 got gold status after installing GDI+. After that the
3D modeling engine has changed in VW2009 to Parasolid 3D modeling kernel built
by Siemens PLM. I don't know if this can have something to do with the
problem....

So as far as I can see VW should work if I only got the drawing area fixed. So
has anyone suggestions on how to fix this?  [Rolling Eyes]

On 2010-05-26 (May, Wednesday) 10:07:02 consta wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> I'm trying to get the cadprogram Vectorworks 2010 (VW) run with Wine.
> ...
> However the drawing area is still messed up after this even if the
>  toolboxes look fine. On one computer with an ATI Radeon HD 4550 graphic
> ...
>  and on my Laptop with an ATI X1200 graphic card the drawing area
>  is black.
> ...
> So as far as I can see VW should work if I only got the drawing area fixed.
> So has anyone suggestions on how to fix this?  [Rolling Eyes]
	Are you really sure that this is Wine bug? If you didn't try the program
with
NVidia card (ideally with latest NVidia driver) it is very likely to be the 
cause. I have seen some applications and games working perfectly with NVidia 
card and working badly or even not working at all with ATI. So, first step is to
try it with NVidia card. If this doesn't help - report a bug to Wine
bugzilla.
If it does help you can report a bug to ATI about yet another bug in their 
Linux driver.

No, I?m not sure if it?s a Wine bug, I only know there is a problem. As you say
the ATI card/driver can be casuing this behaviour. At the moment I?m only having
ATI cards here, so I can't test it with Nvidia unless I get an new Nvidia
card, I will think about it. Thanks for your tips so far!

L. Rahyen, thanks for your tips. I have now made some more testings based on
them.

First I noticed the motherboard an Intel? Desktop Board DG35EC is equipped with
an Intel? Graphics Media Accelerator X3500 on board graphics subsystem. So I
took out the ATI 4550HD card and started up PCLOS with the Intel on board card.
Now VW starts up and looks ok and the drawing area is white as it should be (mot
noisy or black), but when drawing something like a line it only shows while
being drawn and then when finishing it disappears. I can mark it, but I
can't see the line only the handles for resizing etc. I also tried to change
colors but nothing helps. I also opened a saved drawingfile which opens fine but
the drawing area shows nothing unless I hower over objects with the mouse and
mark them. I can use all kind of tools and rendering settings, the program will
not crash but I can't see anything.

The second test is with a NVidia 7900GS card I found in another computer. I
strated up with it and I've got the same result as described above.

So yes there are problems with the ATI cards, both were not working good at all.
The NVidia card seems to work, but there is something not working properly with
the drawing area.

Perryh, the lines width is around 0,25 mm, not 0. I also tried with fills but
nothing is seen, not even the opengl mode where everything should be rendered.
Also I can see the line while drawing it, but when ending the command the line
disappears.

On 2010-05-29 (May, Saturday) 15:37:38 consta wrote:
> So yes there are problems with the ATI cards, both were not working good at
>  all. The NVidia card seems to work, but there is something not working
>  properly with the drawing area.
	Please report a bug to Wine bugzilla: http://bugs.winehq.org . Currently there 
is no bug report about the problem with drawing area in Vectorworks so your bug 
report would be valuable. However please note that currently Wine is in a 
code freeze, so non-regression bugs are likely to be fixed after release of Wine
1.2.

Reported as Bug 22988.