I'm rather new to Ubuntu and thus WINE and I'm just about to buy new parts for my computer (it's kind of broken as of this moment). When I read through the FAQ in the wiki I noticed something in section 9.3, "If you're running a graphics-heavy application using a video card with very poor drivers such as an ATI card under Linux, performance will degrade substantially.". Should I stay clear of ATI cards?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Tord<wineforum-user at winehq.org> wrote:> I'm rather new to Ubuntu and thus WINE and I'm just about to buy new parts for my computer (it's kind of broken as of this moment). When I read through the FAQ in the wiki I noticed something in section 9.3, "If you're running a graphics-heavy application using a video card with very poor drivers such as an ATI card under Linux, performance will degrade substantially.". Should I stay clear of ATI cards? >If you are buying a card for linux usage get a nVidia based card. You will have less problems with their drivers than the other two GPU manufacturers. John
Depends on what applications you're about to use. ATi is constantly improving but still lacks stability for 3D/accerlerated apps (games and the like). But 2D apps, like WinWord or whatever are running as smooth as on Nvidia.
I'm going to use it to play games so then I guess that means NVIDIA or actually using Windows, which I actually see as an option.
>I'm going to use it to play games so then I guess that means NVIDIA or actually using Windows, which I actually >see as an option. >The other option is to open a support request with AMD requesting better/faster Linux drivers. The phrase "The Squeeky wheel gets the grease" applies everywhere. James McKenzie
David Gerard wrote:> 2009/8/18 James Mckenzie <jjmckenzie51 at earthlink.net>: > ... so next year they should be a lot better, even if they're less than ideal right now ;-)Yeah... the thing is that my laptop died 3 weeks ago and my desktop has overall rather old components and a broken graphics card. My desktop still "works" but I have a crap lot of graphical bugs like my cursor just being a cloud of pixels. I don't really have until next year. I need something right now. But as I said. I'll just go with a nVidia card but it means that I'll have to do a little research. I find it much easier to pick an appropriate ATI card (hd 4850/4870 would have been nice).
Tord wrote:> I'm going to use it to play games so then I guess that means NVIDIA or actually using Windows, which I actually see as an option.Depends on what kind of games (MMORG, FPS, RPG), and how do you play it (for fun, for looks, competitive). If you don't care about high frame rates, quality of the image and stability - Wine would work. Or if it's an OpenGL game from number of years back which might work even better on Wine. But if you want to spend several hours playing the game that you can't stop in the middle of some intensive battle, or absolutely positively have to be there for another match of your clan, then Wine won't cut it.
for Linux under ATI normal playing only WOW, Oblivion, Morrowind , UT (classic) and games ID software
DaVince wrote:>dj--alex wrote: >> for Linux >> under ATI >> normal playing only WOW, Oblivion, Morrowind , UT (classic) and games ID software >My case: >for Linux >under ATI >Pretty much no 3D games will work well. Wine or otherwise. Choosing a proprietary ATI driver is not an option for my card. :( > >Point: just because it works well for you doesn't mean it would work well for others. Yes, there are some ATI cards out there that will work well on Linux with the proprietary drivers, but NVidia is still doing much better in >this case. >Sounds like you have an older ATI card which AMD/ATI decided, rightfully, to not support anymore. Time to upgrade. BTW, NVidia did the same thing and there are many unhappy NVidia card owners that will not upgrade to Vista and may not upgrade to Windows 7 when it is available. This is a financial decision where it is not financially rewarding to support older hardware. In some cases, it is not possible to do so as the hardware cannot support what we want use the card for. James McKenzie
My lappy and its card (an Xpress 1100!) do suck, but I cannot currently afford to upgrade. I'm glad enough 2D acceleration and external monitor support actually work with the free driver. I guess I might not be a best case for ATI-related stuff, but then again I might be after all because a lot of people do have old computers or video cards.