We have launched a web forum front end to this mailing list. I wanted to notify the subscribers of this list to that fact. http://forum.winehq.org If you prefer, you can now use this website to browse and post to the list. Your posts will still be mailed out to the list, and posts to the list will appear in the forum. You can continue to use the mailing list as you always have if you prefer that method. So far it has been working fairly well in our testing. But there still may be a few kinks to work out. The best way to find to bugs is to get people to use it, so here you go! If you have suggestions, you can post them in the Suggestion Box on the Forums web page.
jnewman wrote:> We have launched a web forum front end to this mailing list. I wanted to > notify the subscribers of this list to that fact.The first post in this thread was sent via the mailing list. This reply is sent from the Web Forum. This is just a sample to give us an idea how how the posting will appear on the list.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Jeremy Newman <jnewman at codeweavers.com> wrote:> We have launched a web forum front end to this mailing list. I wanted to > notify the subscribers of this list to that fact. > > http://forum.winehq.orgVery nice. I look forward to seeing how it works out in practice. http://www.winehq.org/site/forums needs a bit of updating now, though.
Crap, we got our first porn poster. Freaking-a that didn't take very long. I deleted the post and banned the user. What is wrong with these people? Sorry for that. Looks like I'm going to need some help moderating this site if that continues.
On 23/02/2008, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote: > On Saturday 23 February 2008, my mailbox was graced by a missive > from Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon at gmail.com> who wrote: > > Prefixes are useful in Subject lines if you have heaps of mail in one > > folder and need to filter, sort or search by eye. > Which is exactly what I do, and the reason I would like it to remain. Precisely. Deliberately making a user list hard to use in the ways users typically use a list is stupidly arrogant. - d.
Am 23.02.2008 um 15:32 schrieb Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI:> On Saturday 23 February 2008, my mailbox was graced by a missive > from James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51 at sprintpcs.com> who wrote: > >> +1 to dropping [Wine] as a prefix. I sort by to and cc addresses. > > -1, I sort (in the Linux folder) by subject line.Messages forwarded from one list to another list fall into the wrong location, then. Markus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/
jnewman wrote:> Crap, we got our first porn poster. Freaking-a that didn't take very long. I deleted the post and banned the user. What is wrong with these people? > > Sorry for that. Looks like I'm going to need some help moderating this site if that continues.free pics click here Seriously... phpBB is pretty exploited. Easiest way to keep the spammers off is to change some of the defaults, such as .php extensions, rename posting.php, or anthing a bot would be hard-programmed with. I actually stopped 100% of spam on my boards by putting a question at the bottom by the submit button. -Tres
I vote we start a new mail list to discuss "issues" with the wine- users mailing list. Then we can use the wine-users mailing list to discuss issues that users have with wine. -- Kevin Horton
I am leaving the [Wine] prefix on the subject line. No more discussion is needed.
David Gerard wrote:> Asking people with phpBB experience, the main things you need are: > > 1. captcha or similar for account registrations > 2. moderate all registrations that make it past that > 3. mods who like phpBB forums and catch and block as needed the people > who make it past that. > > Some moderation on the gateway to the list would be useful as well. > > I use Akismet on my WordPress blog and it's fantastic. There's a phpBB port: > > http://www.eadz.co.nz/blog/article/phpbb-akismet.html > > - though I know that a lot of wine-users posts get caught by my > various spam filters (presumably because there's so much spam for > warez copies of Windows programs), so I'd review and train it > carefully. > > Various other ideas: > > http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=57141 > http://boonedocks.net/mike/archives/49-PHPBB-Member-List-Link-Spam.html > http://boonedocks.net/mike/categories/9-PHPBB > http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=427852 > > (I am not volunteering as a mod myself!) > > > - d.Might be worthy of a topic-split, and sorry to respond so late, but captcha is garbage IMHO. It filters out people who have a hard time seeing and frustrates 10x the amount of people that it actually filters. And its not like computerized text recognition is a thing of the future. What I've been impressed with is settable questions that make you prove you are human, like "what is this a picture of?" and show a wine bottle. Or make people solve a word puzzle. Heck, it might make registering for accounts fun instead of a PITA. Unfortunately, the world enjoys scrambling letters into unreadable checkered psychedelic images. -Tres [Twisted Evil]
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 8:15 PM, James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51 at sprintpcs.com> wrote:> Paul Johnson wrote: > > Only true assholes or the illiterate top post. Everyone else writes > > in conversational order. > > > > You must not work in industry then. It is EXPECTED your reply will be > on top, ready for the boss to read. Bottom post, or even worse, > intersperse, and you might get to visit the boss, with all of your > possessions. Remember, not everyone is familiar with nor cares about > RFC 1855. All they want is an answer, now if you please.Actually, I do, and I have said as much to supervisors before and kept my job. You can get away with it if you actually know what you're doing. I don't know what parallel universe you're living in, but it must suck to work with people who can't deal with basic English skills.> No, keep the forum. Just remove the link between the forum and the > mailing list. See which gets the most traffic and eliminate the other. > Bet the mailing list looses. Mailing lists are so last century for > technical support issues. Now, development and announcements are the > place for mailing lists. Or better yet, IRC for support.You contradict yourself there. If mailing lists are so last century, how isn't IRC? Seems like Jabber MUC has long obsoleted (5+ years now) IRC by your own measure of obsolescence. -- Paul Johnson baloo at ursine.ca
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:03 PM, James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51 at sprintpcs.com> wrote:> Suck? I would not go so far. These people are called BOSSES and they > can may or break you. If you don't follow their rules, you might just > as well start a new job search. And good luck if the new place calls > your old boss.Nice thing about Oregon is that former employers are legally prohibited from saying anything bad about current or former employees. Employers that do end up losing huge sums of money to former employees taking them to court over it. They can choose to say something nice, or nothing at all. In practice, most companies here will not discuss former employees, period, for fear of getting sued big-time for lost wages.> I've had that happen to me. I ended up working just > above minimum wage in a stuffy call center. Luckily, my skills were > enough to overcome this problem and I went to work for a company with a > much better outlook on life. As to top versus bottom posting, take a > look at the RFC. It really does not address the problem, but it gives > something more valuable, guidance.This goes beyond the RFC, it's about what a reasonable expectation for an English-literate person is.> However, things are better now than they were a month ago and they will > continue to get better.So the forum's going away? That's about the only way things could get unequivocally better. -- Paul Johnson baloo at ursine.ca
Closing this thread in forum Paul Johnson please stop spamming. All off topic -> /dev/null
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:59 PM, vitamin <wineforum-user at winehq.org> wrote:> Closing this thread in forum > Paul Johnson please stop spamming. All off topic -> /dev/nullCram it, asshole. -- Paul Johnson baloo at ursine.ca
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursine.ca> wrote:> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:59 PM, vitamin <wineforum-user at winehq.org> wrote: > > Closing this thread in forum > > Paul Johnson please stop spamming. All off topic -> /dev/null > > Cram it, asshole.Paul, that kind of language is out of bounds for this list. - Dan