http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13517 Is Wine going to have to lose even more experienced users over a stupid bug? Does WineHQ really value new users over those who have the knowledge and are willing to help? Let's move towards resolution on this and consolidate on Google Groups already, before it's too late. -- Paul Johnson baloo at ursine.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/attachments/20080702/5ab31212/attachment.pgp
2008/7/2 Paul Johnson <baloo at ursine.ca>:> http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13517 > Is Wine going to have to lose even more experienced users over a stupid > bug? Does WineHQ really value new users over those who have the > knowledge and are willing to help? Let's move towards resolution on > this and consolidate on Google Groups already, before it's too late.Speaking as someone who uses the mailing list and hates forum interfaces, I actually hate using Google Groups more. It's not clear why they can't do for Usenet what they did for email, but they've comprehensively failed to. Not to mention that Google Groups does not automatically equal Usenet, as Google Groups' unwillingness to deal with spammers has led to what's left of Usenet frequently dropping all posts via Google. Forums may break threading, etc. This is a problem to be fixed in the software, not by getting rid of a whole new bunch of end-users that the Wine project can finally hear from. - d.
David Gerard:>Forums may break threading, etc. This is a problem to be fixed in the >software,That is not only a software problem. How could a software e.g. insert proper quotes? *eg*>not by getting rid of a whole new bunch of end-users that >the Wine project can finally hear from.Is someone speaking of getting rid of the forum? Those who like it may stay there. But, the gateway to the mailing list is an evil and should be closed. Hartmut
> Is someone speaking of getting rid of the forum? Those who like it may > stay there. But, the gateway to the mailing list is an evil and should > be closed.Sounds reasonable to me. Email and forums are very different styles of communicating, and trying to mix them is inevitably going to lead to culture clashes. The issue of quoting, which seems to be the main problem for email users, is a perfect example: from my perspective, not having to quote is one of the advantages of a forum, and remembering to do so for those on the mailing list is something of an annoyance. But then, I "haven't been around long enough to matter," so feel free to dismiss anything I say as irrelevant.
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 10:02:15AM +0200, Hartmut Figge wrote:> Is someone speaking of getting rid of the forum? Those who like it may > stay there. But, the gateway to the mailing list is an evil and should > be closed.tbh, it just needs the phpBB2 module to be fixed up a bit. That or help get version 2 of the code working. -- Darragh "Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool."