Hello List, i have a spelling and reading software i would like to get running for a primary school because they should not be using windows and the teachers really want that software. I have already tried to get it running with a few people in #winehq, but it seems that its more a guessing game than a streight debugging and solving way. What steps do i need to do to get it running? First of all i checked the appsdb, and the apllication is not listed there. I am running OpenSuSE 10.1 with wine-0.9.20-SuSELinux101.i586.rpm from the winehq download section. I have removed the previous ~/.wine directory and let wine create a default setup. Then i ran the exe: cd /media/GUT_1/ && wine Setup_D.exe The Installation Program started, i was able to accept the license and seect a installation path, and pressed next. Now i am back to the console. The installation window is still there and it is saying "System wir ?berpr?ft, Bitte warten..." (which means something like: Checking system, please wait...). And now it hangs there since 20mins. What is my debug way from here? Do you need more info? Maybe the file list of the CD? Anything? Thanks, Mario
Can you post the name of the software? And I would guess in the direction of copyprotection. Does anyone know how to find out if it is a copyprotection? mario schrieb:> Hello List, > > i have a spelling and reading software i would like to get running for a > primary school because they should not be using windows and the teachers > really want that software. > > I have already tried to get it running with a few people in #winehq, but > it seems that its more a guessing game than a streight debugging and > solving way. > > What steps do i need to do to get it running? > > First of all i checked the appsdb, and the apllication is not listed > there. > > I am running OpenSuSE 10.1 with wine-0.9.20-SuSELinux101.i586.rpm from > the winehq download section. > > I have removed the previous ~/.wine directory and let wine create a > default setup. > > Then i ran the exe: > cd /media/GUT_1/ && wine Setup_D.exe > > The Installation Program started, i was able to accept the license and > seect a installation path, and pressed next. > > Now i am back to the console. The installation window is still there and > it is saying "System wir ?berpr?ft, Bitte warten..." (which means > something like: Checking system, please wait...). > > And now it hangs there since 20mins. > > > What is my debug way from here? Do you need more info? Maybe the file > list of the CD? Anything? > > > Thanks, Mario > > > _______________________________________________ > wine-users mailing list > wine-users@winehq.org > http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users > >
Hello, On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 18:20 +0200, Legine wrote:> Can you post the name of the software?"Das Rechtschreibprogramm" by GUT. Homepage: http://www.gut1.de/ The Demo seems to work though.> > And I would guess in the direction of copyprotection. > Does anyone know how to find out if it is a copyprotection?Thanks, Mario> > > mario schrieb: > > Hello List, > > > > i have a spelling and reading software i would like to get running for a > > primary school because they should not be using windows and the teachers > > really want that software. > > > > I have already tried to get it running with a few people in #winehq, but > > it seems that its more a guessing game than a streight debugging and > > solving way. > > > > What steps do i need to do to get it running? > > > > First of all i checked the appsdb, and the apllication is not listed > > there. > > > > I am running OpenSuSE 10.1 with wine-0.9.20-SuSELinux101.i586.rpm from > > the winehq download section. > > > > I have removed the previous ~/.wine directory and let wine create a > > default setup. > > > > Then i ran the exe: > > cd /media/GUT_1/ && wine Setup_D.exe > > > > The Installation Program started, i was able to accept the license and > > seect a installation path, and pressed next. > > > > Now i am back to the console. The installation window is still there and > > it is saying "System wir ?berpr?ft, Bitte warten..." (which means > > something like: Checking system, please wait...). > > > > And now it hangs there since 20mins. > > > > > > What is my debug way from here? Do you need more info? Maybe the file > > list of the CD? Anything? > > > > > > Thanks, Mario > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wine-users mailing list > > wine-users@winehq.org > > http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > wine-users mailing list > wine-users@winehq.org > http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users >
Hi, maybe there is a way to use a key to unlock the demo version? This should be the easiest way to solve your installation problem, if the demo works. Did you mount your cd drive with the unhide option or try to copy the cd to the harddrive and install it from there? Did you have any output on the console while the software is "checking your system"? cu, Stefan Am Mittwoch, 30. August 2006 19:39 schrieb mario:> Hello, > > On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 18:20 +0200, Legine wrote: > > Can you post the name of the software? > > "Das Rechtschreibprogramm" by GUT. > Homepage: http://www.gut1.de/ > > The Demo seems to work though. > > > And I would guess in the direction of copyprotection. > > Does anyone know how to find out if it is a copyprotection? > > Thanks, Mario >-- Dipl.-Inform. Stefan Munz. . . . . . . . . . stefan.munz@itomig.de ITOMIG GbR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . www.itomig.de Sand 14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . mobil: +49 178 729 72 72 D-72076 T?bingen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/attachments/20060831/fe504721/attachment.pgp
Hmmm. Makes it difficult to help. I still guess this is all about copyprotection. But I am at the end of my rope. The only tipp I can give is to check the diverence winedebugchannels: Check out http://www.winehq.org/site/docs/wineusr-guide/x509#AEN557 But I am unsure what the chennel names pointing at. Crypto looks apealing to me. Or try to find out wich dlls are called (the debug channel dll? or ntdll dont know) and replace them with natives ones from MS. A good Idea would be too to open up a AppDB entry. If you know more you could file a bug. Hope this are some Ideas to help. I am sorry that I do not know more, but I never worked deeper then this with wine. Maybe someone else can take it from here? mario schrieb:> Hello, > > > On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 18:20 +0200, Legine wrote: > >> Can you post the name of the software? >> > > "Das Rechtschreibprogramm" by GUT. > Homepage: http://www.gut1.de/ > > The Demo seems to work though. > > > > >> And I would guess in the direction of copyprotection. >> Does anyone know how to find out if it is a copyprotection? >> > > > Thanks, Mario > > >> mario schrieb: >> >>> Hello List, >>> >>> i have a spelling and reading software i would like to get running for a >>> primary school because they should not be using windows and the teachers >>> really want that software. >>> >>> I have already tried to get it running with a few people in #winehq, but >>> it seems that its more a guessing game than a streight debugging and >>> solving way. >>> >>> What steps do i need to do to get it running? >>> >>> First of all i checked the appsdb, and the apllication is not listed >>> there. >>> >>> I am running OpenSuSE 10.1 with wine-0.9.20-SuSELinux101.i586.rpm from >>> the winehq download section. >>> >>> I have removed the previous ~/.wine directory and let wine create a >>> default setup. >>> >>> Then i ran the exe: >>> cd /media/GUT_1/ && wine Setup_D.exe >>> >>> The Installation Program started, i was able to accept the license and >>> seect a installation path, and pressed next. >>> >>> Now i am back to the console. The installation window is still there and >>> it is saying "System wir ?berpr?ft, Bitte warten..." (which means >>> something like: Checking system, please wait...). >>> >>> And now it hangs there since 20mins. >>> >>> >>> What is my debug way from here? Do you need more info? Maybe the file >>> list of the CD? Anything? >>> >>> >>> Thanks, Mario >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wine-users mailing list >>> wine-users@winehq.org >>> http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> wine-users mailing list >> wine-users@winehq.org >> http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > wine-users mailing list > wine-users@winehq.org > http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users > >
Hi Mario
The demo works also for me.
Do this here:
1. open the file .bashrc
2. add the entry "export WINEDEBUG=+msi,+text" at the bottom
3. save the file
4. log off (or reboot the machine if you want)
5. reinstall the applikation "GUT 1" again (Ctrl+C if it freezes
more
than 2 minutes)
6. now you should see at least some installation steps more
Better: In step 5 install with:
1. sudo wine SetupDexe > ~/install.txt 2>&1
2. bzip2 ~/install.txt
3. send the file ro this list, or open an bug entry in bugzilla, or
let us do it for you
Bytheway: I had to set the sound to "emulation" in the demo to be able
to hear it. To do it, start "winecfg", and then go to the
"Audio" tab,
press "Ok" and select the hardware acceleration to
"Emulation".
greetings
Bojan
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Hello Bojan, On Sat, 2006-09-02 at 20:22 +0200, Bojan Antonovic wrote:> Hi Mario > > The demo works also for me. > > Do this here: > 1. open the file .bashrc > 2. add the entry "export WINEDEBUG=+msi,+text" at the bottomI just entered that in the bash if thats okay?!> 1. save the file > 2. log off (or reboot the machine if you want) > 3. reinstall the applikation "GUT 1" again (Ctrl+C if it freezes > more than 2 minutes) > 4. now you should see at least some installation steps more > Better: In step 5 install with: > 1. sudo wine SetupDexe > ~/install.txt 2>&1 > 2. bzip2 ~/install.txtAttached are 3 text files. One with the requested output. One with the top output (here you can see a ~000.exe idling around). And one with the CD-ROM output. Here you can see a folder called "LASERLOCK". Very instresting ;).> 1. send the file ro this list, or open an bug entry in bugzilla, > or let us do it for you > Bytheway: I had to set the sound to "emulation" in the demo to be able > to hear it. To do it, start "winecfg", and then go to the "Audio" tab, > press "Ok" and select the hardware acceleration to "Emulation". >Thanks a lot so far! What shall i do now? Cheers, Mario -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: install.tar.gz Type: application/x-compressed-tar Size: 10302 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/attachments/20060904/b0e69dd0/install.tar.bin
Hi Mario
Thanks for following my advices!
Unfortunatly, I can't see any direct problem report, as an crashing
application would produce, like in
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6061. But I'm not a Wine expert.
If I look at the report of the demo and of the applikation, and at the
applikation itself, then this seems to be a trivial applikation.
I've cc-ed this mail to a person who gave me some advices about Wine
(Dan Kegel), to get his attention to your problem. Hope, he's not angry
to me for this step!
In http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/2006-August/023398.html
you were asked to see what helps if you copy the content of the CD to
your harddisk, and install the software from there. Does it help?
In the worst case you have to negotiate with the company to give you a
copy without copy protection, if the copy protection is the problem.
The last step, what you can do from your side, is to change .bashrc to
WINEDEBUG=+all
and the to compress (please compress!) the console log file with
bzip2 -9 install.txt
Send it again to the list (we won't receive it in the attachment, only a
link to it)
It could be that the thing ends up by opening a bug report and leave it
so. If ever you need to enter a bug report (we assumed you checked that
it's not a duplicate), than
1. open a bug account (ID+password are required)
2. go to http://bugs.winehq.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wine
3. fill up the version of Wine (0.9.20), plattform (like PC x86_64),
OS (Linux), component (wine-misc), URL (www.gut1.de), summary
("GUT 1 is not installable"), description
4. after commiting, attach the file install.txt.bz2 in the comment box
What I think is positive, is that the application (GUT 1) is runnable as
a demo, and no direct problem is reported by Wine, even not a single
"fixme", "err" or so. It can be that the problem is easily
solvable.
If you have a Mac close to you, grab a beta version of CrossOver Office
for Mac (http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/) an test it (the
Windows version of GUT1) there. This is the commercial version for Wine,
with some configurations where it better works. At least the beta for
the Mac version is free. If it works, then you know that it's a
configuration problem.
greetings
Bojan
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