Am a newbee to Linux and am trying to evaluate various distros to see how they fit my needs. For this purpose I now have six trial Linux partitions on the same machine. My other criterions to replace XP as my main system have been passed by all the distros, but remains the last one: to be able to handle Lotus wk4-files. That is where I have my history. First tried installing Lotus 123 from SmartSuite 96, which worked fine, but when trying to open a wk4-file all distros froze. Next tried to install Lotus 123 from SmartSuite 97, which worked fine except for Mandriva 2005 Ltd Edition which did not react at all to "setup.exe". The other distros opened Lotus 123 but died on me after about 10 seconds. Except Fedora Core 4, which died after trying to open more than about two files. Thought this might be a memory problem, so I tried to reduce the demands on the system by elliminating a lot of options in user setup, smart icons setup and view preferences. After having done this I found that I got a fully working Lotus 123 on my Fedora distro!! My other distros did not let me change the settings before dying. So I copied over the lotus directory and the wine registry files (I don't use wine for anything else - so far) from Fedora. For most distros the result was the same - dying after 10 seconds. Also got Mandriva to work like that. But SuSE 9.1 didn't die - it worked!!, just as well as (or even better than) Fedora Core 4. All distros had the Wine version 20050830 except SuSE 9.1: 20040213. Did try version 0.9.1 on Mandriva, but no difference to the 10 seconds death. Actually the installation said that 0.9.1 was older than 20050830!? The other distros were SuSE 10.0 and Kubuntu 5.10. Did also try to copy over Lotus 123 Millenium Edition to the Fedora partition but it died on me as soon as I tried to retrieve a file. So I have to well working versions of Lotus 123 SmartSuite 97 on Fedora Core 4 and SuSE 9.1, but this is only with the console command "wine winefile" and then go to the Lotus file 123w.exe to start. When trying to start from the menu shortcut, Lotus 123 starts okay, but it dies when I try to open a file or change a setting. How do you explain that?? Would very much appreciate suggestions how to to proceed to get the other distros onboard! Is this a memory problem, and if so how to solve it? Krister Hallergard Lytham, UK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/attachments/20051119/99aaccd3/attachment.htm
Krister Hallergard wrote:> All distros had the Wine version 20050830 except SuSE 9.1: 20040213.If they are all the same, then it's rather odd that only FC4 (besides SuSE) works. I wonder if they have any distro-specific patches. Presumably that information is available somewhere.> Would very much appreciate suggestions how to to proceedIf you want help here, upgrade to Wine 0.9.1 or CVS/SVN HEAD. Although the Wine developers will punk you if you as an outsider try and submit a code patch without a thorough test case, they happily submit lots of stuff themselves that break things all the time :-). Therefore noone seems to know how a version that's more than a month old works, and you're very unlikely to get any help with it. So: upgrade. Another approach could be to use CrossOver's version of Wine. Apparently it's not expensive. What they offer is a guarantee that their version will run a number of applications, some of those are Lotus applications. They have a trial available over at http://www.codeweavers.com/. If you want help with Wine 0.9.1 or CVS/SVN HEAD, run your applications in a console window, eg. like this: # wine setup.exe That will produce output on the console. When the program crashes, you should see lines like "err: blah blah", which you should report here. (If you think that more information regarding fx. a specific DLL is needed, there's also a number of debug channels that you can turn on. Search the mailing list archives or one of the Wikis or the docs for more information on that.)
Encouraged by the good results with SuSE9.1 using older versions of wine, I tried older versions with SuSE10.0. With wine 20040505 it works fairly well, not quite stable though. Krister Hallergard wrote:> Am a newbee to Linux and am trying to evaluate various distros to see > how they fit my needs. For this purpose I now have six trial Linux > partitions on the same machine. My other criterions to replace XP as my > main system have been passed by all the distros, but remains the last > one: to be able to handle Lotus wk4-files. That is where I have my history. > > First tried installing Lotus 123 from SmartSuite 96, which worked fine, > but when trying to open a wk4-file all distros froze. > > Next tried to install Lotus 123 from SmartSuite 97, which worked fine > except for Mandriva 2005 Ltd Edition which did not react at all to > "setup.exe". The other distros opened Lotus 123 but died on me after > about 10 seconds. Except Fedora Core 4, which died after trying to open > more than about two files. Thought this might be a memory problem, so I > tried to reduce the demands on the system by elliminating a lot of > options in user setup, smart icons setup and view preferences. After > having done this I found that I got a fully working Lotus 123 on my > Fedora distro!! > > My other distros did not let me change the settings before dying. So I > copied over the lotus directory and the wine registry files (I don't use > wine for anything else - so far) from Fedora. For most distros the > result was the same - dying after 10 seconds. Also got Mandriva to work > like that. But SuSE 9.1 didn't die - it worked!!, just as well as (or > even better than) Fedora Core 4. > > All distros had the Wine version 20050830 except SuSE 9.1: 20040213. > Did try version 0.9.1 on Mandriva, but no difference to the 10 seconds > death. Actually the installation said that 0.9.1 was older than > 20050830!? The other distros were SuSE 10.0 and Kubuntu 5.10. Did also > try to copy over Lotus 123 Millenium Edition to the Fedora partition but > it died on me as soon as I tried to retrieve a file. > > So I have to well working versions of Lotus 123 SmartSuite 97 on Fedora > Core 4 and SuSE 9.1, but this is only with the console command "wine > winefile" and then go to the Lotus file 123w.exe to start. When trying > to start from the menu shortcut, Lotus 123 starts okay, but it dies when > I try to open a file or change a setting. How do you explain that?? > > Would very much appreciate suggestions how to to proceed to get the > other distros onboard! Is this a memory problem, and if so how to solve it? > > Krister Hallergard > Lytham, UK > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wine-users mailing list > wine-users@winehq.org > http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users
Was reasonably happy with Lotus 123 on Fedora Core4 with wine 0.9.2 and with SuSE 10.0 with wine 2004-05-05. As long as I started from winefile and opened a wk4-file within 15 seconds it was stable (otherwise Lotus 123 would exit). But then I realized that I couldn't print - got error messages "we don't handle PRINTER_ENUM_CONNECTIONS..". Googling did not give any working solution, so I had to find a better solution. Excel has wk*-filters, so I installed winetools base setup incl IE6 and the Windows system software, and then Office 97 - Excel only. Installation worked fine, but when starting Excel it froze while showing the welcome screen. The solution was to use "Open an Office file", and after that Excel could be started normally. The printer also worked with Excel. This solution was valid for Fedora Core4, Suse 10.0 and also Kubuntu 5.10. - all now with wine 0.9.2. Great! Not with Mandriva 2006 though. Nothing happened when trying to install with install.exe (just like with Lotus SmartSuite setup.exe). Also after copying a functioning .wine directory (and fixing permissions) from Fedora, excel.exe would start but exit after a few seconds (same with 123w.exe). Same with a few other programs on the winetools menu (did not try all). IE6 works though. Wonder why Mandriva does not seem to like wine?? Krister Hallergard wrote:> Am a newbee to Linux and am trying to evaluate various distros to see > how they fit my needs. For this purpose I now have six trial Linux > partitions on the same machine. My other criterions to replace XP as my > main system have been passed by all the distros, but remains the last > one: to be able to handle Lotus wk4-files. That is where I have my history. > > First tried installing Lotus 123 from SmartSuite 96, which worked fine, > but when trying to open a wk4-file all distros froze. > > Next tried to install Lotus 123 from SmartSuite 97, which worked fine > except for Mandriva 2005 Ltd Edition which did not react at all to > "setup.exe". The other distros opened Lotus 123 but died on me after > about 10 seconds. Except Fedora Core 4, which died after trying to open > more than about two files. Thought this might be a memory problem, so I > tried to reduce the demands on the system by elliminating a lot of > options in user setup, smart icons setup and view preferences. After > having done this I found that I got a fully working Lotus 123 on my > Fedora distro!! > > My other distros did not let me change the settings before dying. So I > copied over the lotus directory and the wine registry files (I don't use > wine for anything else - so far) from Fedora. For most distros the > result was the same - dying after 10 seconds. Also got Mandriva to work > like that. But SuSE 9.1 didn't die - it worked!!, just as well as (or > even better than) Fedora Core 4. > > All distros had the Wine version 20050830 except SuSE 9.1: 20040213. > Did try version 0.9.1 on Mandriva, but no difference to the 10 seconds > death. Actually the installation said that 0.9.1 was older than > 20050830!? The other distros were SuSE 10.0 and Kubuntu 5.10. Did also > try to copy over Lotus 123 Millenium Edition to the Fedora partition but > it died on me as soon as I tried to retrieve a file. > > So I have to well working versions of Lotus 123 SmartSuite 97 on Fedora > Core 4 and SuSE 9.1, but this is only with the console command "wine > winefile" and then go to the Lotus file 123w.exe to start. When trying > to start from the menu shortcut, Lotus 123 starts okay, but it dies when > I try to open a file or change a setting. How do you explain that?? > > Would very much appreciate suggestions how to to proceed to get the > other distros onboard! Is this a memory problem, and if so how to solve it? > > Krister Hallergard > Lytham, UK > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wine-users mailing list > wine-users@winehq.org > http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users