Vorbis - Jan 2005 - Stand alone media player supporting Ogg ?

1. Anyone know of an Ogg playing media player, similar to the Netgear MP101 
or the Voyetra AudioTron-100 (neither of which play ogg) ?
I need something that will display and play/stream ogg audio files stored on 
the PC, without having to use a tv as the viewer. I looked on the wiki but 
didn't find anything. If they don't use a tv they don't play ogg, so
far
anyway.

Voyetra AudioTron-100 [ 
http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/products/audiotron/producthome.asp ]
Netgear MP101 [ http://www.netgear.com/products/details/MP101.php ]

2. And while I'm here. . .What's involved for one of these companies
like
Netgear or Linksys to include Ogg as a supported format? Is it just an 
addition to the firmware? Is it that much of an additional expense?
How do we go about getting them to support it?

Kent

Kent Barbour wrote:
> 1. Anyone know of an Ogg playing media player, similar to the Netgear 
> MP101 or the Voyetra AudioTron-100 (neither of which play ogg) ?
> I need something that will display and play/stream ogg audio files 
> stored on the PC, without having to use a tv as the viewer. I looked 
> on the wiki but didn't find anything. If they don't use a tv they 
> don't play ogg, so far anyway.
I've been thinking about this for a while and one feasible solution 
would be to have some software running on a PC, doing real time 
Vorbis->WAV convertion and exposing the WAV files on a network share. 
Most devices can play uncompressed WAV files and the necessary bandwith 
is rarely an issue in local networks.
> 2. And while I'm here. . .What's involved for one of these
companies
> like Netgear or Linksys to include Ogg as a supported format? Is it 
> just an addition to the firmware? Is it that much of an additional 
> expense?
> How do we go about getting them to support it? 

Why not send them an email and ask for it? One guess is that the 
additional development costs are too high.

Tor

--- Kent Barbour <keoh@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 1. Anyone know of an Ogg playing media player, similar to the Netgear
> MP101 
> or the Voyetra AudioTron-100 (neither of which play ogg) ?
> I need something that will display and play/stream ogg audio files
> stored on 
> the PC, without having to use a tv as the viewer. I looked on the
> wiki but 
> didn't find anything. If they don't use a tv they don't play
ogg, so
> far 
> anyway.
I don't know much about it but you might look into the new
Zensonic Z500:

http://www.z500series.com/
http://www.zensonic.com/press_z500.php

claims to do vorbis and FLAC.  I asked them if it can also play
these off a DVD but haven't got an answer yet.

Josh



		
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Kent Barbour wrote:
> 1. Anyone know of an Ogg playing media player, similar to the Netgear 
> MP101 or the Voyetra AudioTron-100 (neither of which play ogg) ?
> I need something that will display and play/stream ogg audio files 
> stored on the PC, without having to use a tv as the viewer. I looked 
> on the wiki but didn't find anything. If they don't use a tv they 
> don't play ogg, so far anyway.
>
> Voyetra AudioTron-100 [ 
> http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/products/audiotron/producthome.asp ]
> Netgear MP101 [ http://www.netgear.com/products/details/MP101.php ]
>
> 2. And while I'm here. . .What's involved for one of these
companies
> like Netgear or Linksys to include Ogg as a supported format? Is it 
> just an addition to the firmware? Is it that much of an additional 
> expense?
> How do we go about getting them to support it?
If you want you can use an Xbox with Xbox Media Center on it.  XBMC is 
not the Microsoft "media extender" program, it is open source.  You
can
get custom Xboxes with LCD screens on the front, plus it will play DVDs, 
Quicktime, Windows Media, Real, Mpeg-1, Divx, Xvid, you name it.  
Basically all the Mplayer codecs and then some.  It will also play any 
audio codec as well.  It really is very good software.  It will stream 
from Windows, Mac, or Linux as well.  It will also play Xbox games too 
;).  You can add a wireless adapter if you don't have wire to the 
location you'd be using it.  It will also use the stock Xbox DVD remote 
if memory serves me right, or maybe even a wireless mouse and keyboard.

Here are some links with more information:
Toms Hardware Review of stand-alone media players
http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/20040511/index.html
http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/20040511/xbox-multimedia-12.html#conclusion

Xbox Scene
http://www.xbox-scene.org

There are some companies you can buy premodded Xboxes like this with the 
LCD Screen, and the ability to run non-Microsoft code if you prefer. 

Paul