Hey There again On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 10:16:50AM -0500, Dave Phillips wrote:> 2) Thus, I've prepared a set of Ogg files encoded with -b 24 to fit > my available bandwidth. They don't sound very good (compared to the > higher-quality defaults), but my uplink bandwidth won't allow much > better.hmm still playing the old files then according to my readings?> > 3) And I've limited the number of clients to 4 in conf/icecast.xml.if you are playing the old files still it dosnet work ;-)> > http://64.108.112.107:8000/shouter.oggi listend in and it sounded amazing! Allthough i where kicked pretty fast i presume the reason was the lack of bandwidth. Here is my output from the session : [thomas@mmstreaming ogg123]$ ./ogg123 -v -d oss http://64.108.112.107:8000/shouter.ogg HTTP Headers: HTTP/1.0 200 OK Content-Type: application/x-ogg ice-bitrate: 0 ice-name: no name ice-public: 0 Device: OSS audio driver output Author: Aaron Holtzman <aholtzma@ess.engr.uvic.ca> Comments: Outputs audio to the Open Sound System driver. Title: Help Me Album: Hamhound Crave Track number: 13 Artist: Dave Phillips guitar/vocal, Paul Sanders guitar, Don Baney drums, Fuzzy Samuels bass Organization: The Dave Phillips Band Description: Sonny Boy Williamson's hit Genre: blues Date: 1996 Location: Brownwood Studios, Gibsonburg OH Copyright My Own Records Bitstream is 2 channel, 44100Hz Encoded by: Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010225 W: Stream error Time: -35791394: inf [-35791394: -inf] of -2:-11.00, Bitrate: 110.9 Done.> Again, please let me know (via this list) how well or badly the stream > comes through.But anyway i would be very interrested in copying your setup : Server streamer configfiles and ogg files If you could send me all this i would set it up on a server where the bandwidth isnt a problem ;-) -- Venlig hilsen/Kind regards Thomas Kirk thomas@arkena.com http://www.arkena.com I met my latest girl friend in a department store. She was looking at clothes, and I was putting Slinkys on the escalators. -- Steven Wright --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
the lowest estimated bitrate is 112 kbps. you could use lower sampling rate and mono files getting lower bitrates (you have to test how low it goes, i get 60-70kbps for a 22kh mono file). use sox or other resampling utils for downsampling. There is one at http://www.geocities.co.jp/Technopolis/9674/ssrc/ with a link to sox and other programs. I think you need wave format for oggenc, because it only undestands raw with 44khz stereo. On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:23:03 -0500, Dave Phillips wrote:>Greetings: > > Rats. The Ogg files are still reading as encoded at between 90 - 110 >kbps, which will still effectively limit me to a single connection. > > 'man oggenc' says the '-b' switch was okay. I set it to -b 24 for the >encoding, did I forget to do something else during the process ?? > > Aha...The Vorbis FAQ says I can't currently go that low...so what's >the lower limit on Ogg encoding in beta4 ?--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Jeremy C. Reed
2001-Mar-14 08:40 UTC
[vorbis] Re: [icecast] another Icecast2/Vorbis test stream
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Dave Phillips wrote:> Rats. The Ogg files are still reading as encoded at between 90 - 110 > kbps, which will still effectively limit me to a single connection. > > 'man oggenc' says the '-b' switch was okay. I set it to -b 24 for the > encoding, did I forget to do something else during the process ??This also happened to me when I did -b 1. The bitrates hover around 100. I didn't understand that. Plus the quality sounded good.> Aha...The Vorbis FAQ says I can't currently go that low...so what's > the lower limit on Ogg encoding in beta4 ?Is this the part you are talking about: "The current beta encoder supports the following bitrates: 128, 160, 192, 256, 350 kbps in mono or stereo"? This should be mentioned in the manual page. Jeremy C. Reed http://www.reedmedia.net/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Greetings:
Rats. The Ogg files are still reading as encoded at between 90 - 110
kbps, which will still effectively limit me to a single connection.
'man oggenc' says the '-b' switch was okay. I set it to -b 24
for the
encoding, did I forget to do something else during the process ??
Aha...The Vorbis FAQ says I can't currently go that low...so what's
the lower limit on Ogg encoding in beta4 ?
Best regards,
== Dave Phillips
The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm
The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net
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Hi, i tuned in, with freeamp for windows, version 2.1.0 on windows 98se, it buffers, shows it's a 24kbps stream, but doesn't start to play.> -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast@xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast@xiph.org]On Behalf Of > Dave Phillips > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 4:17 PM > To: Icecast Mail; Vorbis Mail > Subject: [icecast] another Icecast2/Vorbis test stream > > > Greetings: > > Yes, I've placed another test stream on-line. Thanks to the feedback > from members of this list, I've taken a few extra steps. > > 1) According to DSLReports, my uplink today is 137 kbps. It may > actually be a little faster, they say that Netscape's reporting is > skewed (and I use Netscape). > > 2) Thus, I've prepared a set of Ogg files encoded with -b 24 to fit > my available bandwidth. They don't sound very good (compared to the > higher-quality defaults), but my uplink bandwidth won't allow much > better. > > 3) And I've limited the number of clients to 4 in conf/icecast.xml. > > I hope these preparations will help make and maintain some lower-rate > connections. The URL is now: > > http://64.108.112.107:8000/shouter.ogg > > Again, please let me know (via this list) how well or badly the stream > comes through. > > The music is just a bunch of blues songs I recorded some years ago, > but it's more recognizable as music than what I had up yesterday. :) > > Best regards, > > == Dave Phillips > > The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm > The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request@xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Greetings:
Yes, I've placed another test stream on-line. Thanks to the feedback
from members of this list, I've taken a few extra steps.
1) According to DSLReports, my uplink today is 137 kbps. It may
actually be a little faster, they say that Netscape's reporting is
skewed (and I use Netscape).
2) Thus, I've prepared a set of Ogg files encoded with -b 24 to fit
my available bandwidth. They don't sound very good (compared to the
higher-quality defaults), but my uplink bandwidth won't allow much
better.
3) And I've limited the number of clients to 4 in conf/icecast.xml.
I hope these preparations will help make and maintain some lower-rate
connections. The URL is now:
http://64.108.112.107:8000/shouter.ogg
Again, please let me know (via this list) how well or badly the stream
comes through.
The music is just a bunch of blues songs I recorded some years ago,
but it's more recognizable as music than what I had up yesterday. :)
Best regards,
== Dave Phillips
The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm
The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net
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At 03:55 PM 3/14/01 +0100, you wrote:>Hi, > >i tuned in, with freeamp for windows, version 2.1.0 on windows 98se, it >buffers, shows it's a 24kbps stream, but doesn't start to play.Once more - if you're using freeamp, and it doesn't work, you need a more recent version of freeamp. 2.1.0 doesn't exist. The latest release is 2.1.0rc6, which is also buggy. There's a link on the front page of freeamp.org to source for freeamp from _after_ the bugs were fixed. Update. Michael --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.