On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 10:48:27AM -0100, fungus wrote:> One the one hand this is a great achievement but on the > other hand normal people aren't going to figure out how > good it is because they'll never push the limits. > Who's going to set "quality 0.5" when they've got a > range from zero up to ten.This is very true. I can easily hear MP3 distortion up to about 256kbps on most music. I've heard some songs where I can tell at 256kbps. I have never heard compression artifacts from Ogg Vorbis. Unfortunately, I'm scared that one day I'll be able to, and my entire CD collection, encoded at the economical q=3.0 or less will become sick sounding. So I kinda wuss out and just set q to 5-ish, so any difficult to encode music has some headroom. -- Ross Vandegrift ross@willow.seitz.com A Pope has a Water Cannon. It is a Water Cannon. He fires Holy-Water from it. It is a Holy-Water Cannon. He Blesses it. It is a Holy Holy-Water Cannon. He Blesses the Hell out of it. It is a Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon. He has it pierced. It is a Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon. Batman and Robin arrive. He shoots them. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Isn't the purpouse of using quality instead of bitrate that it will always be the same quality? So very-easy-to-encode sound should sound as good as very-hard-to-encode sound, but the easy sound uses 60kbit/s and the hard one 380kbit/s ? // Wigren Tuesday 01 October 2002 15.09 skrev Ross Vandegrift:> On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 10:48:27AM -0100, fungus wrote: > > One the one hand this is a great achievement but on the > > other hand normal people aren't going to figure out how > > good it is because they'll never push the limits. > > Who's going to set "quality 0.5" when they've got a > > range from zero up to ten. > > This is very true. I can easily hear MP3 distortion up to about 256kbps > on most music. I've heard some songs where I can tell at 256kbps. > > I have never heard compression artifacts from Ogg Vorbis. > Unfortunately, I'm scared that one day I'll be able to, and my entire CD > collection, encoded at the economical q=3.0 or less will become sick > sounding. So I kinda wuss out and just set q to 5-ish, so any difficult > to encode music has some headroom.--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.