Vorbis - Jan 2002 - Slightly off-topic: question about DOS batch files

Jack, thanks for your quick reply about my Comment question.
This next question is slightly off-topic, but it pertains to encoding a
directory of WAV files into Oggs.

        Right now I have 14 WAVs that I ripped from a CD... I made a [huge]
batch file which specifies the name and track number of each WAV. 
Unfortunately, I have to have the entire batch file on a single line, since
it's a single call to oggenc.exe. This single line is 1057 characters long! 
:-/
        Is there any way to have an escape character, like the backslash on
Unix/Linux, that would allow me to have multiple lines of batch file, but would
be interpreted as a single line by DOS?  That would make it much easier to edit
data of each track.
        If anyone knows about this, please tell me.  Thanks.

                                                -- Philip.
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> Jack, thanks for your quick reply about my Comment question.
> This next question is slightly off-topic, but it pertains to encoding a
directory of WAV files into Oggs.
> 
> 	Right now I have 14 WAVs that I ripped from a CD... I made a [huge]
batch file which specifies the name and track number of each WAV. 
Unfortunately, I have to have the entire batch file on a single line, since
it's a single call to oggenc.exe. This single line is 1057 characters long!
 :-/
> 	Is there any way to have an escape character, like the backslash on
Unix/Linux, that would allow me to have multiple lines of batch file, but
would be interpreted as a single line by DOS?  That would make it much
easier to edit data of each track.
> 	If anyone knows about this, please tell me.  Thanks.
> 
> 						-- Philip.
Why not use OggDrop? Going for managed bitrates? Tagging?

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Hello Philip,
 
You wrote at 1/7/2002, 6:05 AM:

Philip> Right  now  I have 14 WAVs that I ripped from a CD... I made a
Philip> [huge] batch file which specifies the name and track number of
Philip> each  WAV. Unfortunately, I have to have the entire batch file
Philip> on a single line, since it's a single call to oggenc.exe. This
Philip> single line is 1057 characters long! :-/

It isn't necessary to encode the full CD at once, is it? You could do
well with multiple lines, like:

oggenc -N "01" -q 4 --artist="Dido" --title="Here With
Me" --album="No Angel" -d "2001" -n "%%n
%%t.ogg" track01.wav
oggenc -N "02" -q 4 --artist="Dido"
--title="Hunter" --album="No Angel" -d "2001" -n
"%%n %%t.ogg" track02.wav
.
.
etc.


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What are you using to get the WAV files in the first place?
Most CD rippers allow you to use a command line compressor.




At 23:15 1/6/2002, you wrote:
>Why not use OggDrop? Going for managed bitrates? Tagging?
        If you really must know (and I don't think it matters) I use oggdrop
because I want to encode a batch of files without requiring user intervention
between each file, and because I do a lot of tagging.
        Besides, I don't see how oggdrop is going to HELP me encode the
entire CD to Ogg Vorbis. It's certainly much less automated than oggenc.

<p>SyP wrote:
> It isn't necessary to encode the full CD at once, is it? You could do 
> well with multiple lines, like:
> oggenc -N "01" -q 4 --artist="Dido" --title="Here
With Me" --album="No Angel" -d "2001" -n "%%n
%%t.ogg" track01.wav
> oggenc -N "02" -q 4 --artist="Dido"
--title="Hunter" --album="No Angel" -d "2001" -n
"%%n %%t.ogg" track02.wav
        That's a good idea, but it would increase the size of my batch file
tremendously, because then I'd have to specify a pageful (a pageful in the
ogg info viewer, not batch file) of comments for EACH track, and that would be
much more maintenance than working with a single line.
        It would be wonderful if DOS had some kind of escape character. Nice,
simple, and elegant. But I guess those words don't really apply to DOS...
(*shrug*)

        Thanks anyway.

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On Monday 07 January 2002 18:05, Philip M. White wrote:
> Jack, thanks for your quick reply about my Comment question.
> This next question is slightly off-topic, but it pertains to encoding a
> directory of WAV files into Oggs.
>
> 	Right now I have 14 WAVs that I ripped from a CD... I made a [huge] batch
> file which specifies the name and track number of each WAV.  Unfortunately,
> I have to have the entire batch file on a single line, since it's a
single
> call to oggenc.exe. This single line is 1057 characters long!  :-/ Is there
> any way to have an escape character, like the backslash on Unix/Linux, that
> would allow me to have multiple lines of batch file, but would be
> interpreted as a single line by DOS?  That would make it much easier to
> edit data of each track. If anyone knows about this, please tell me. 
> Thanks.
Give up on dos batch files and install either python or perl. ActiveState 
have some nice prepackaged binaries for each. Then grab a tutorial and hack 
away, or take one of the many existing perl/python rip/encode/tag scripts and 
tweak it to suit. This is almost certainly going to cause you less pain in 
the long run.

John

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On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 06:05, Philip M. White wrote:
> Jack, thanks for your quick reply about my Comment question.
> This next question is slightly off-topic, but it pertains to encoding a
directory of WAV files into Oggs.
> 
> 	Right now I have 14 WAVs that I ripped from a CD... I made a [huge] batch
file which specifies the name and track number of each WAV.  Unfortunately, I
have to have the entire batch file on a single line, since it's a single
call to oggenc.exe. This single line is 1057 characters long!  :-/
> 	Is there any way to have an escape character, like the backslash on
Unix/Linux, that would allow me to have multiple lines of batch file, but would
be interpreted as a single line by DOS?  That would make it much easier to edit
data of each track.
> 	If anyone knows about this, please tell me.  Thanks.
> 
> 						-- Philip.
Try a UNIX shell, like bash. It has been ported to Win32.
http://www.mingw.org/

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>         If you really must know (and I don't think it matters) I use
oggdrop because I want to encode a batch of files without requiring user
intervention between each file, and because I do a lot of
tagging.
>         Besides, I don't see how oggdrop is going to HELP me encode the
entire CD to Ogg Vorbis. It's certainly much less automated than oggenc.

OggDrop isn't any less automated afaik, unless you're looking for tags
or
some of the other less basic features of oggenc. I highlight the entire
directory of WAVs, and slap`em on into oggenc. It converts the whole CD for
me, and i don't have to touch it between files.
Of course, this still doesn't help if you're looking for tags.
Have you tried an all-in-one ripping package like CDex? It supports Vorbis.
Don't know if it does tagging properly - testing it out now. Yep, it does
the tags. Dunno if this meets your needs or not, but it may be something to
consider.

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