Vorbis - Jan 2002 - quality vs bitrate

The problem is that the mp3 dewdz will be used to looking at bitrates to 
determine quality, so the solution (as several here say) seems to me to just 
rip out anything mentioning bitrate from the simple tools.

But, they will still see the bitrate in players like winamp.

To solve this, why not store the quality setting used when encoding into the 
ogg file itself ? Either use a field unused when using the quality setting, 
or store it in a tag. Current decoders won't be broken, newer decoders can 
take advantage of it.

Player plugins could then use this to show in stead of bitrate, fx.
"Q3" in
stead of "112 kpbs". IIRC the cd player plugin does something like
this in
winamp - been a long time since i've used windows now though =)

Anyway, what do you think ? Could this be done ?


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> Player plugins could then use this to show in stead of bitrate, fx.
"Q3"
in 
> stead of "112 kpbs". IIRC the cd player plugin does something
like this
in 
> winamp - been a long time since i've used windows now though =)
> Anyway, what do you think ? Could this be done ?
Don't know where the Q setting will be stored in the file, but winamp could
display this.
What the CD player displays in the kbps field is "14H" - for 14
hundred,
presumably. Shows the same for uncompressed CD quality WAV data.
(The Monkey's Audio plugin also does this - 10H, 11H, etc.)
But the field doesn't have to display kbps strictly - the Nullsoft Module
Decoder (aka MikAmp) displays the number of channels in the module - most
old Amiga .MODs, for example, will display 4C. It seems an appropriate
little piece of info to toss in there, as these files don't really *have* a
bitrate as such...
If MikAmp can do that, then the Vorbis decoder plugin could easily display
the Q value.
I think an option in the plugin's config box to toggle the display between
Q value, average bitrate, and variable bitrate would be ideal.

eDb

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