/> Additionally, it has been stated many times that you / /> _should_ _never_ _transcode_ _any_ _lossy_ _codec_. / This isn't transcoding. The point about transcoding, say, MP3->OGG is that the two codecs use different assumptions (psychoacoustic models, etc.) in performing the compression -- so transcoding often results in one codec trying to chase down and reproduce artifacts generated by the other. The "lather-rinse-repeat" encoding test described by Atilla is a bit different: roughly speaking, it simply magnifies the artifacts introduced by oggenc and makes them easier to identify. Obviously this is a non- linear process so it isn't perfect, but it's far from useless. I believe this type of testing has historically been done by other codec designers as well (including tests of various tunings of the MPEG codecs). -HJR --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.