Vorbis dev - Jul 2001 - [fwd] Problems with ogg123 on OpenBSD (from: ryancooley@yahoo.com)

Just as a reminder to our application maintainers.

----- Forwarded message from Ryan Cooley <ryancooley@yahoo.com> -----

Delivery-Date: Sun Jul 22 20:28:06 2001
From: Ryan Cooley <ryancooley@yahoo.com>
Subject: Problems with ogg123 on OpenBSD
To: feedback@vorbis.com

While I hate to send complaints about something that is Free(tm), I
really hoped and expected the Ogg Vorbis team to have put at least a
small ammount of work into making vorbis work under the BSDs.  

As it is, when compiling libao I get errors such as
"SNDCTL_DSP_GETODELAY undeclared" and "RTLD_NOW undeclared".
While I'm
not a C programer, I had the imagination to declare the variables
needed.  With that error gone, I was free to install the libao library
and comile the rest of the package.  When testing I discovered that
ogg123 had no idea how to actually play a sound.  I tried the "-d oss
"
option, to discover that oss didn't exist.  

I took a trip to google hoping for some more information... I did
everything from making a rc file to linking /dev/dsp to /dev/audio... 
I comiled again, found that the DSP error above was now being generated
(originally only the 'NOW' error came up) so I suppose the link did
what it was meant to do.  However, I unfortunately found the same
problem plaguing me, no audio.  

I can write the output of an ogg file to a wav so I'm not completely
stranded, but a two-step pplaying process is less than ideal, and will
probably re-encode all my music to mp3s relatively soon.  

I hope for everyone's sake that this problem is fixed soon (before v1.0
is released) as it will seriously affect the adoptation of the format
is all BSDers are unable to listen to their ogg files/streams.

Despite annoyances I've experienced, I'm glad ogg exists, and hope it
will take over as the dominant format soon.

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Ryan,
> I hope for everyone's sake that this problem is fixed soon (before v1.0
> is released) as it will seriously affect the adoptation of the format
> is all BSDers are unable to listen to their ogg files/streams.
OpenBSD and NetBSD both have ogg123 available via their ports/packages
collection. (I help maintain the ogg, vorbis, libao, and vorbis-tools
packages for NetBSD.)

The patches and fixes are available with these packages. The problem (I
believe) is that the patches are specific for the operating systems. In
other words, the patches aren't made to be directly integrated back into
the original source without breaking functionality for the other
operating systems.

I am glad you brought this up. The many fixes have been mentioned on this
mailing list several times. Hopefully, the ogg, vorbis, libao and ogg123
developers will integrate the BSD-needed ideas into real versions. And
this will make it easier for me and the other ports/package maintainers
when the new versions are released so we don't have to patch them again :)

(But if I do have to make patches again, I'll work on making them correct
so they can be integrate directly next time.)

   Jeremy C. Reed
   http://bsd.reedmedia.net/

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Monty <xiphmont@xiph.org> wrote:
> ----- Forwarded message from Ryan Cooley <ryancooley@yahoo.com> -----
> 
> I hope for everyone's sake that this problem is fixed soon (before v1.0
> is released) as it will seriously affect the adoptation of the format
> is all BSDers are unable to listen to their ogg files/streams.
This guy is a twit.

All of FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD have libao, libogg, libvorbis, and
vorbis-tools in their respective ports/packages collection.  This
is the place where any BSD user with an inkling of understanding
will check for these applications first.  I personally maintain the
FreeBSD and OpenBSD ports.  My email address is right there in the
ports for people to report problems or ask for help.


-- 
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                         
naddy@mips.inka.de

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