On Wednesday, July 4, 2001, at 09:52 , Jon Gamble wrote:> Greetings, > > First off let me say that Ogg Vorbis kicks butt. Great work to all > involved! > > I apologize for fuzziness in my wording here. There are many details I > am not allowed to reveal at this point for fear of upsetting > development partners. That being said: > > I have compiled the beta4 source (without modifying it) and wrapped it > into a plugin for a commercial multimedia collaboration software. This > software is distributed freely. Unfortunately, our plugin API is > proprietary and cannot be GPLed. Even worse, I couldn't find any > precompiled vorbis libraries for Mac so it looks like I'm out of luck > on the business friendly BSD front unless... Is it ok to compile the > vorbis source verbatim with the provided codewarrior projects, give > Xiphorous credit, and assume the result is BSD protected rather than > GPL?If you mean the libogg and libvorbis source, then yes you're fine as long as you give Xiphophorus credit. The utilities from the vorbis-tools package, however, is under under the GPL, and that code you cannot borrow for a proprietary application without special permission from the authors. More properly, just read the 'COPYING' files included with each source package. The Vorbis source actually says you must reproduce the entire COPYING file in the documentation distributed with your binaries. That seems a little onerous to me, actually. You might consider moving to the recently released 'decoder-rc1' source before you deploy though, to help future-proof your application.> Is there a compelling reason that the mac libraries are not available?No, just lack of developer interest. Hope that helps, -r --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Greetings, First off let me say that Ogg Vorbis kicks butt. Great work to all involved! I apologize for fuzziness in my wording here. There are many details I am not allowed to reveal at this point for fear of upsetting development partners. That being said: I have compiled the beta4 source (without modifying it) and wrapped it into a plugin for a commercial multimedia collaboration software. This software is distributed freely. Unfortunately, our plugin API is proprietary and cannot be GPLed. Even worse, I couldn't find any precompiled vorbis libraries for Mac so it looks like I'm out of luck on the business friendly BSD front unless... Is it ok to compile the vorbis source verbatim with the provided codewarrior projects, give Xiphorous credit, and assume the result is BSD protected rather than GPL? Is there a compelling reason that the mac libraries are not available? Apologies if this has been asked before. +jon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
First off, thanks for the info!>You might consider moving to the recently released >'decoder-rc1' source before you deploy though, to help >future-proof your application.Well, we have a stable implementation of a vorbis plugin (from the beta 4 source) that has fared well under a semi-rigorous matrix of testing. We have also seeded compressed then decompressed renderings generated with the plugin (your technology) to "golden ears" listeners who assert that it provides better transients than competing technologies (mp3, etc.). For scheduling reasons, we prefer to work with the beta 4 source snapshot. that we've already tested. But I would be an idiot not to ask - have any huge holes been plugged with rc1? ;) Thank you tons for the recommendations and clarification. +jon> >>Is there a compelling reason that the mac libraries are not available? > >No, just lack of developer interest. > >Hope that helps, > -r > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >'vorbis-dev-request@xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered._________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.