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Behold, gtgbr@gmx.net hath decreed: > Aaron Gaudio wrote: > > the current stable version. Those who are willing to give up the > > features not yet implemented in icecast2 in order to stream vorbis, can > > use the devel version. Those who don't need to stream vorbis can > > continue using the stable version. There is no...

Behold, gtgbr@gmx.net hath decreed: > Aaron Gaudio wrote: > > or developing for it. The fact that no release packages are available > > signifies to me that icecast2 is not yet ready for prime time. This > > Well, there are, see Geoff's mail ... those are official. Multiple > problems of pretty much any kind prevented Xiph...

Behold, gtgbr@gmx.net hath decreed: > Aaron Gaudio wrote: > > If icecast.org is so broken, then someone ought to do what was > > suggested on the list in November (looking through the archives): > > put it out of its misery. Why are there no "official" releases? > > I already told you, there *are* official release...

Behold, Adon Irani <adon@YorkU.CA> hath decreed: > > the icecast2 developers be guilt-tripped into repeating icecast's > performance ? > _ is it not enough that OGG can have a streaming server that supports it ? Perhaps, if that is the only requirement to have a fully-functional streamer. Unfortunately, I believe this is not sufficient for the user base. So, if the

> The current homepage is http://www.xiph.org/cvs.html ... this is > supposed to change eventually, but there are some weird problems with > icecast.org that i don't quite understand. :) > > Anyways, do NOT check out icecast2 from icecast.org CVS, it is very > outdated. Instead, check out the 'icecast' module from anoncvs@xiph.org. > > Moritz Sorry...

Aaron Gaudio wrote: > Ah, herein lies the problem. If the icecast maintainers believe the > mp3 community to be "neEdy/ outmoded user bases", then they are not > interested in the user base, only themselves. Fair enough, then put Well, I think saying that Xiph.org doesn't care about its...

Aaron Gaudio wrote: > > Dale Ghent wrote: > > > Icecast2 is icecast2. I'm talking about it's lack of innovation (ogg > > > streaming! woopdefuckingdoo) as well as it's lack of functionality that > > > doesnt even near icecast 1.x (yp, acls, metadata, web-based admin)...

Aaron Gaudio wrote: > Where is it released? Telling me I have to set up cvs to download http://www.xiph.org/~msmith/ This has been said before. > > I never said that it's a final release, I said "alpha release". It's not > Then how is it a replacement for icecast1? How is a full...

Aaron Gaudio wrote: > or developing for it. The fact that no release packages are available > signifies to me that icecast2 is not yet ready for prime time. This Well, there are, see Geoff's mail ... those are official. Multiple problems of pretty much any kind prevented Xiph.org from getting icecast...

On 12/30/02 10:59 AM, "Aaron Gaudio" <prothonotar@tarnation.dyndns.org> wrote: > Behold, gtgbr@gmx.net hath decreed: >> >> http://www.xiph.org/about.html > > Note also the paragraph at http://www.xiph.org/ : > > "Xiph.Org Foundation is a non-profit corporation dedicated to protecting the...

Aaron Gaudio wrote: > If icecast.org is so broken, then someone ought to do what was > suggested on the list in November (looking through the archives): > put it out of its misery. Why are there no "official" releases? I already told you, there *are* official releases (or, to be exact, one r...

Behold, Michael Smith <msmith@xiph.org> hath decreed: > > > It's icecast. It's part of xiph. It's the same project. Presumably it's > > the same developers. I don't care about the similarity of the code > > bases. One is released, the other one is not (alpha versions are not > > releases). > > No. Whilst it originally shared one

Behold, gtgbr@gmx.net hath decreed: > > Well, I think saying that Xiph.org doesn't care about its users at all > is too harsh. On the other hand, there's some truth in this, and I > highly appreciate it. If you want to stick to MP3, Icecast1 is for you - > nobody forces you to use it (or not), and you're also free to use > something else. Xiph.org, i.e. Jack

Behold, gtgbr@gmx.net hath decreed: > Dale Ghent wrote: > > Icecast2 is icecast2. I'm talking about it's lack of innovation (ogg > > streaming! woopdefuckingdoo) as well as it's lack of functionality that > > doesnt even near icecast 1.x (yp, acls, metadata, web-based admin). > > Apparently, you haven't tried Icecast2-alpha, yet. So... we have to try an

gtgbr@gmx.net wrote: > Aaron Gaudio wrote: > >>Where is it released? Telling me I have to set up cvs to download > > > http://www.xiph.org/~msmith/ > > This has been said before. This is no good. This is by far not the first time someone has pointed out, that icecast2 is not mentioned _anywhere_ where on...

Behold, gtgbr@gmx.net hath decreed: > > http://www.xiph.org/about.html Note also the paragraph at http://www.xiph.org/ : "Xiph.Org Foundation is a non-profit corporation dedicated to protecting the foundations of Internet multimedia from control by private interests. Our purpose is to support and develop free, open protocols and software to serve the public, developer and business