On 28/03/2023 10:52, Lm Loge via samba wrote:> @RowlandPenny
>
> I stick to it. You are unpleasant.
No, I am not, you just perceive me to be unpleasant, what I am and I
know I am, is terse, why waste a thousand words when two or three will
suffice ? At 67 years old, I do not think I will change.
> I don't want you to answer my posts anymore.
OK, then do not post again.
> Not here, or on StackExchange, like one or two months ago, where I was
> trying to avoid your answers.
> (I was happy, at the end of 2019, the last time I had to care about
> Samba, when Van Belle took care of me with kindness and efficiency
> (within a couple of days the problem was solved). You answered first but
> fortunately for me, Van Belle took the case.)
It is unlikely that Louis will be posting again, more I will not say.
>
> And if nobody answers my posts anymore, well... that's more your
problem
> as a "Samba team" than mine.
No that is your problem, I have apologised for the way I answered, you
are not good enough to accept that apology.
> Personally, I know I am doing my best, at my level, even if YOU think I
> am "asking such basic things" given I am saying "have some
experience of
> using Samba".
> It is the case, I have several years of experience with Samba, even if I
> am not good at it.
If you have all this experience with Samba, then why did you think that
you could just install Samba and use it without configuring it ? Do you
install other packages (NFS for instance) without configuring them and
expect them to work ?
> Which is not entirely my responsibility. Look at the documentation
> available on the Internet: obsolete, dating back from the Samba 3 times,
> not updated, and the wiki which is not practical at all for learning.
> No, it is not practical, sorry: a wiki is not a proper form for a
> documentation or an educational material.
What is on the internet is outside the control of Samba and yes, most of
it is useless. A wiki can be useful, but only when written correctly and
regularly updated. It also helps if people point out problems (which you
have), these problems can then be corrected/improved.
>
> I hope you don't really realize how despising that is to tell such a
> thing to an "OP", as you say.
No, I didn't, but I feel that there may be a cultural difference going
on here, I do not set out to upset anyone.
> So, I am telling you.
> Especially given the fact that you are, as you say, trying your best to
> help people, with generosity.
> What if a "stupid" person needs a certain answer to go on with
her work?
> Maybe that person is not thinking like you do and should be respected
> anyway, shouldn't she or he?
> By the way, we are not "OPs", we are people, hidden behind our
> computers, but still people. I am not a bot.
Ah, the problem is, nowadays you can get really deep into trouble for
connecting a name with a gender, until now I wasn't 100% sure that
'Lea'
was a girls name, so for that, I apologise.
>
> If I want to install from the sources, as explained in the wiki, which
> is the only documentation I have access to, I do it. (But maybe the wiki
> is not a reliable source of information?).
It is reliable for what it is intended for, but it would seem that it
needs some attention. A user should really only compile Samba if they
wish to test something, for all other purposes it is better to use the
Samba packages supplied by a distro. If you do compile Samba yourself,
then you are responsible for making all the connections required (PATH,
winbind nss links, startup scripts etc).
> What type of installation I am doing, should be doing or not, was not
> part of my original question.
But that is the way I read it and as such, that may be my problem.
> I was just explaining what I had been doing so that the forum know the
> context which is mine.
> If I hadn't done that, the forum would have asked.
>
> It is not because I am asking a "basic thing", I should give up
on the
> choice I have made, because you, and others, think I should go another
> SUPPOSEDLY easier way.
But you didn't explain why you had done it that way, you just said that
I have done this and nothing works.
> It is not the first time you discuss my choices.
> If you don't remember, I do. (And if you have real memory problems, I
> SINCERELY apologize because you can't help it).
Nothing really wrong with my memory.
>
> I don't trust you. You told me, the other day, with your habitual
> self-importance: transfer your present AD DC FSMO roles to your new DC
> and then demote the old one.
If you are going to remove the old DC, then that would be good practice.
> Well, I won't do it because I am 99% sure it will break both old DC and
> the new one. I know it because it happened to me every time in the past
> when I had to deal with you.
If transferring FSMO roles from one DC to another breaks something, then
it sounds like you have another underlying problem.
> I admit I am not good at Samba. Maybe a specialist would do it without
> any difficulty.
I cannot answer that.
>
> By the way, I have the answer to my question.
> It was really not that useful to bother me again (with your introductory
> "why???") and provoke my anger.
It wasn't meant in that way and if you took it in that way, then perhaps
it says something about you. It was meant as a question (yes, perhaps I
could have asked a longer question) but it boiled down to why were you
compiling Samba.
> That's a fact: starting Samba when no provision or join or standalone
> stuff (yes, "stuff": see what a crap I am with Samba) has been
made,
> ends up with a failure.
> It's not written in the wiki, hence my original question.
It hasn't ever been written in the wiki and you are the first person to
point this out. I will fix this though.
>
> As you say, my question was probably basic and only deserved a basic
> answer given with respect.
> You should be happy because I you'll have one less person to help in
the
> future.
> --
> L?a Massiot
>
>
I am really sorry if I have upset you (and it sounds like I have), it
was never my intention and I can only apologise for any hurt I have
caused you.
Rowland