samba - Nov 2018 - Upgraded to 4.8 - forced to use winbindd - retro how to missing?

We recently upgraded a test server to samba-4.8.3.... but wonder how to
reproduce the legacy behavior with winbind now forced into the picture for
better or worse.

We specifically do not want any of the whiz-bang capabilities of winbind,
just the old familiar mapping of windows usernames to unix usernames.

It seems not sufficient to omit winbind settings in smb.conf; i.e., the
defaults force the "new and improved" behavior.

Thanks much for your advice.

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 19:05:59 -0500
Richard Bollinger via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> We recently upgraded a test server to samba-4.8.3.... but wonder how
> to reproduce the legacy behavior with winbind now forced into the
> picture for better or worse.
> 
> We specifically do not want any of the whiz-bang capabilities of
> winbind, just the old familiar mapping of windows usernames to unix
> usernames.
I have replied to you over on on the Samba technical mailing list, but
what do you mean by 'the old familiar mapping of windows usernames to
unix usernames', what about UID's & GID's ?
> 
> It seems not sufficient to omit winbind settings in smb.conf; i.e.,
> the defaults force the "new and improved" behavior.
No, it forces the correct Samba behaviour.

Rowland

Prior to 4.8, without winbind in the picture, a windows user named
"rab",
for instance, could be authenticated by AD, but would assume the identity
of the Unix user "rab", with all of his Unix defined groups.

Of course, this is not full emulation of a Windows server experience, but
nonetheless it is the behavior we wanted and worked well in our environment
where every AD user who needed access to a Unix server had a corresponding
Unix ID assigned with that user's uid, gids, identical on all the Unix
servers.

That is the "legacy" behavior we desire.  Is it still possible to
achieve
it with the current version of Samba?

Thanks for your help.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:36 AM Rowland Penny via samba <
samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 19:05:59 -0500
> Richard Bollinger via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
>
> > We recently upgraded a test server to samba-4.8.3.... but wonder how
> > to reproduce the legacy behavior with winbind now forced into the
> > picture for better or worse.
> >
> > We specifically do not want any of the whiz-bang capabilities of
> > winbind, just the old familiar mapping of windows usernames to unix
> > usernames.
>
> I have replied to you over on on the Samba technical mailing list, but
> what do you mean by 'the old familiar mapping of windows usernames to
> unix usernames', what about UID's & GID's ?
>
> >
> > It seems not sufficient to omit winbind settings in smb.conf; i.e.,
> > the defaults force the "new and improved" behavior.
>
> No, it forces the correct Samba behaviour.
>
> Rowland
>
>
>
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