Ok, so if i understand right, your sysvol is on a shared folder which is a debian squeeze server. i think you problem is that the needed acl cant be set on the queeze server. and why not systemd, since gentoo also does systemd https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd and if you really want, just run your install with preseed/late_command="in-target apt-get install -y sysvinit-core" ( see https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_without_systemd ) I've a running debian jessie as fileserver, proxy server and mail server and im really happy with it. ( yes, with systemd ) much faster boot, well much faster whole os.. ;-) but thats not on debated here.. choose what you like. Greetz, Louis>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: ryana at reachtechfp.com >[mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Ryan Ashley >Verzonden: vrijdag 12 juni 2015 16:17 >Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Clients unable to get group policy... > >Louis, 4.2.2 (git clone method for 4-2-stable branch) is what I am >running. I will NOT be using Debian 8 due to systemd. If I have to do >this, we're going to plan a down-time for the client, zero everything, >do a fresh XenServer install and install Gentoo 64bit under XS. If that >is what must be done, so be it. I can do that. I'll simply have one VM >on each physical server which builds the source packages into binary >ones for the others to pull. This way Gentoo doesn't bog things down >during business hours with compiling updates. > >Lead IT/IS Specialist >Reach Technology FP, Inc > >On 06/12/2015 09:14 AM, L.P.H. van Belle wrote: >> Or upgrade you xen servers and a tip for a jessie install on >xen 6.2 choose other linux >> or upgrade to Xen 6.5. for jessie support. >> >> or you can try upgradeing to latest 3.6 version on squeeze. >( 3.6.25 ) >> http://www.enterprisesamba.com/samba-packages/debian-linux/squeeze/ >> or even better move up to 4.2.2. ( i advice a wheezy install >with sernet samba ) >> and member servers can be debian jessie with 4.1.17. thats >what you want. >> >> which samba are you using on squeeze. 3.5.x of the >backported 3.6.6 ? >> >> >> Greetz, >> >> Louis >> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>> Van: ryana at reachtechfp.com >>> [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Ryan Ashley >>> Verzonden: vrijdag 12 juni 2015 14:47 >>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Clients unable to get group policy... >>> >>> Anybody? Is my problem that this client is still on Debian 6? >>> >>> Lead IT/IS Specialist >>> Reach Technology FP, Inc >>> >>> On 06/08/2015 11:25 AM, Ryan Ashley wrote: >>>> Rowland, you are correct. I remember now. When we started using >>>> XenServer, Wheezy would not work under it. This is a Squeeze >>>> installation, not Wheezy. Will Samba no longer work with >>> Squeeze? If so >>>> it may be an excuse to upgrade the domain after all these years. >>>> >>>> On 06/05/2015 11:23 AM, Rowland Penny wrote: >>>>> On 05/06/15 16:07, Ryan Ashley wrote: >>>>>> I noticed something different on the page you linked. It must be >>>>>> outdated or maybe it is setup for a different version of >>> Debian. The >>>>>> system runs Debian Wheezy AMD64. The paths referenced do >>> not exist. I >>>>>> also checked several other Debian systems and NONE have the >>>>>> "x86_64-linux-gnu" directories. >>>>>> >>>>>> root at dc01:~# uname -r >>>>>> 2.6.32-5-amd64 >>>>>> root at dc01:~# l /lib | grep x86 >>>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Dec 27 2012 >>> ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 -> >>>>>> ld-2.11.3.so >>>>>> root at dc01:~# l /usr/lib | grep x86 >>>>>> root at dc01:~# >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this the problem? What version of Debian is the guide >>> for? I believe >>>>>> Debian 8 was released recently but cannot be sure since it >>> is a systemd >>>>>> distro I now use Gentoo. If the guide is for 8, maybe we >>> need one for 7 >>>>>> since it is supported until the release of 9. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Are you sure it is running wheezy ? >>>>> >>>>> On my DC: >>>>> >>>>> root at dc01:~# cat /etc/os-release >>>>> PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy)" >>>>> NAME="Debian GNU/Linux" >>>>> VERSION_ID="7" >>>>> VERSION="7 (wheezy)" >>>>> ID=debian >>>>> ANSI_COLOR="1;31" >>>>> HOME_URL="http://www.debian.org/" >>>>> SUPPORT_URL="http://www.debian.org/support/" >>>>> BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.debian.org/" >>>>> >>>>> root at dc01:~# uname -r >>>>> 3.2.0-4-amd64 >>>>> >>>>> root at dc01:~# ls /lib | grep x86 >>>>> x86_64-linux-gnu >>>>> >>>>> Rowland >>>>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >>> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >>> >>> > >-- >To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba > >
On 12/06/15 15:54, L.P.H. van Belle wrote:> Ok, so if i understand right, > your sysvol is on a shared folder which is a debian squeeze server. > i think you problem is that the needed acl cant be set on the queeze server.You are probably right Louis.> > and why not systemd, since gentoo also does systemd > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/SystemdAh but Gentoo only does systemd if you want to, systemd is a cure looking for a problem, or to put it another way, it is like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.> and if you really want, just run your install with > > preseed/late_command="in-target apt-get install -y sysvinit-core" > ( see https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_without_systemd ):-D :-D :-D ROFL ROFL Have you tried NOT using systemd on Jessie!> > I've a running debian jessie as fileserver, proxy server and mail server and im really happy with it. ( yes, with systemd ) > much faster boot, well much faster whole os.. ;-) but thats not on debated here.. > choose what you like.99% of your speed gain has nothing to do with systemd. Rowland> > Greetz, > > Louis > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: ryana at reachtechfp.com >> [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Ryan Ashley >> Verzonden: vrijdag 12 juni 2015 16:17 >> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Clients unable to get group policy... >> >> Louis, 4.2.2 (git clone method for 4-2-stable branch) is what I am >> running. I will NOT be using Debian 8 due to systemd. If I have to do >> this, we're going to plan a down-time for the client, zero everything, >> do a fresh XenServer install and install Gentoo 64bit under XS. If that >> is what must be done, so be it. I can do that. I'll simply have one VM >> on each physical server which builds the source packages into binary >> ones for the others to pull. This way Gentoo doesn't bog things down >> during business hours with compiling updates. >> >> Lead IT/IS Specialist >> Reach Technology FP, Inc >> >> On 06/12/2015 09:14 AM, L.P.H. van Belle wrote: >>> Or upgrade you xen servers and a tip for a jessie install on >> xen 6.2 choose other linux >>> or upgrade to Xen 6.5. for jessie support. >>> >>> or you can try upgradeing to latest 3.6 version on squeeze. >> ( 3.6.25 ) >>> http://www.enterprisesamba.com/samba-packages/debian-linux/squeeze/ >>> or even better move up to 4.2.2. ( i advice a wheezy install >> with sernet samba ) >>> and member servers can be debian jessie with 4.1.17. thats >> what you want. >>> which samba are you using on squeeze. 3.5.x of the >> backported 3.6.6 ? >>> >>> Greetz, >>> >>> Louis >>> >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>> Van: ryana at reachtechfp.com >>>> [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Ryan Ashley >>>> Verzonden: vrijdag 12 juni 2015 14:47 >>>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Clients unable to get group policy... >>>> >>>> Anybody? Is my problem that this client is still on Debian 6? >>>> >>>> Lead IT/IS Specialist >>>> Reach Technology FP, Inc >>>> >>>> On 06/08/2015 11:25 AM, Ryan Ashley wrote: >>>>> Rowland, you are correct. I remember now. When we started using >>>>> XenServer, Wheezy would not work under it. This is a Squeeze >>>>> installation, not Wheezy. Will Samba no longer work with >>>> Squeeze? If so >>>>> it may be an excuse to upgrade the domain after all these years. >>>>> >>>>> On 06/05/2015 11:23 AM, Rowland Penny wrote: >>>>>> On 05/06/15 16:07, Ryan Ashley wrote: >>>>>>> I noticed something different on the page you linked. It must be >>>>>>> outdated or maybe it is setup for a different version of >>>> Debian. The >>>>>>> system runs Debian Wheezy AMD64. The paths referenced do >>>> not exist. I >>>>>>> also checked several other Debian systems and NONE have the >>>>>>> "x86_64-linux-gnu" directories. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> root at dc01:~# uname -r >>>>>>> 2.6.32-5-amd64 >>>>>>> root at dc01:~# l /lib | grep x86 >>>>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Dec 27 2012 >>>> ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 -> >>>>>>> ld-2.11.3.so >>>>>>> root at dc01:~# l /usr/lib | grep x86 >>>>>>> root at dc01:~# >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this the problem? What version of Debian is the guide >>>> for? I believe >>>>>>> Debian 8 was released recently but cannot be sure since it >>>> is a systemd >>>>>>> distro I now use Gentoo. If the guide is for 8, maybe we >>>> need one for 7 >>>>>>> since it is supported until the release of 9. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Are you sure it is running wheezy ? >>>>>> >>>>>> On my DC: >>>>>> >>>>>> root at dc01:~# cat /etc/os-release >>>>>> PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy)" >>>>>> NAME="Debian GNU/Linux" >>>>>> VERSION_ID="7" >>>>>> VERSION="7 (wheezy)" >>>>>> ID=debian >>>>>> ANSI_COLOR="1;31" >>>>>> HOME_URL="http://www.debian.org/" >>>>>> SUPPORT_URL="http://www.debian.org/support/" >>>>>> BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.debian.org/" >>>>>> >>>>>> root at dc01:~# uname -r >>>>>> 3.2.0-4-amd64 >>>>>> >>>>>> root at dc01:~# ls /lib | grep x86 >>>>>> x86_64-linux-gnu >>>>>> >>>>>> Rowland >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >>>> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >>>> >>>> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >> >>
Well, here is my plan of action. I will migrate the VMs on the secondary server to the primary one. Then I will zero the RAID10 array, install the latest XenServer, and load a Gentoo VM to build the needed binary packages. I can then create a new DC, promote it to the primary server, move the Windows VMs back to the secondary server, and then wipe and reload the primary box. This way I have an evolving OS which shouldn't be left behind, no systemd, and my problems with Samba should go away. Oh, and I am not blaming Samba for the issues. It has evolved and become better. Debian 6 (Squeeze) has NOT, due to being oldstable and now obsolete. Hey, it will be a learning experience for my assistant. Besides, if I screw something up I can get great help on this list and worst case scenario is I get to build a new domain. Thanks for the help, Rowland and Louis. Lead IT/IS Specialist Reach Technology FP, Inc On 06/12/2015 11:03 AM, Rowland Penny wrote:> On 12/06/15 15:54, L.P.H. van Belle wrote: >> Ok, so if i understand right, >> your sysvol is on a shared folder which is a debian squeeze server. >> i think you problem is that the needed acl cant be set on the queeze >> server. > > You are probably right Louis. > >> >> and why not systemd, since gentoo also does systemd >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd > > Ah but Gentoo only does systemd if you want to, systemd is a cure > looking for a problem, or to put it another way, it is like using a > sledgehammer to crack a nut. > >> and if you really want, just run your install with >> >> preseed/late_command="in-target apt-get install -y sysvinit-core" >> ( see https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_without_systemd ) > > :-D :-D :-D ROFL ROFL > > Have you tried NOT using systemd on Jessie! > >> >> I've a running debian jessie as fileserver, proxy server and mail >> server and im really happy with it. ( yes, with systemd ) >> much faster boot, well much faster whole os.. ;-) but thats not on >> debated here.. >> choose what you like. > > 99% of your speed gain has nothing to do with systemd. > > Rowland > >> >> Greetz, >> >> Louis >> >> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>> Van: ryana at reachtechfp.com >>> [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Ryan Ashley >>> Verzonden: vrijdag 12 juni 2015 16:17 >>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Clients unable to get group policy... >>> >>> Louis, 4.2.2 (git clone method for 4-2-stable branch) is what I am >>> running. I will NOT be using Debian 8 due to systemd. If I have to do >>> this, we're going to plan a down-time for the client, zero everything, >>> do a fresh XenServer install and install Gentoo 64bit under XS. If that >>> is what must be done, so be it. I can do that. I'll simply have one VM >>> on each physical server which builds the source packages into binary >>> ones for the others to pull. This way Gentoo doesn't bog things down >>> during business hours with compiling updates. >>> >>> Lead IT/IS Specialist >>> Reach Technology FP, Inc >>> >>> On 06/12/2015 09:14 AM, L.P.H. van Belle wrote: >>>> Or upgrade you xen servers and a tip for a jessie install on >>> xen 6.2 choose other linux >>>> or upgrade to Xen 6.5. for jessie support. >>>> >>>> or you can try upgradeing to latest 3.6 version on squeeze. >>> ( 3.6.25 ) >>>> http://www.enterprisesamba.com/samba-packages/debian-linux/squeeze/ >>>> or even better move up to 4.2.2. ( i advice a wheezy install >>> with sernet samba ) >>>> and member servers can be debian jessie with 4.1.17. thats >>> what you want. >>>> which samba are you using on squeeze. 3.5.x of the >>> backported 3.6.6 ? >>>> >>>> Greetz, >>>> >>>> Louis >>>> >>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>>> Van: ryana at reachtechfp.com >>>>> [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Ryan Ashley >>>>> Verzonden: vrijdag 12 juni 2015 14:47 >>>>> Aan: samba at lists.samba.org >>>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Clients unable to get group policy... >>>>> >>>>> Anybody? Is my problem that this client is still on Debian 6? >>>>> >>>>> Lead IT/IS Specialist >>>>> Reach Technology FP, Inc >>>>> >>>>> On 06/08/2015 11:25 AM, Ryan Ashley wrote: >>>>>> Rowland, you are correct. I remember now. When we started using >>>>>> XenServer, Wheezy would not work under it. This is a Squeeze >>>>>> installation, not Wheezy. Will Samba no longer work with >>>>> Squeeze? If so >>>>>> it may be an excuse to upgrade the domain after all these years. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 06/05/2015 11:23 AM, Rowland Penny wrote: >>>>>>> On 05/06/15 16:07, Ryan Ashley wrote: >>>>>>>> I noticed something different on the page you linked. It must be >>>>>>>> outdated or maybe it is setup for a different version of >>>>> Debian. The >>>>>>>> system runs Debian Wheezy AMD64. The paths referenced do >>>>> not exist. I >>>>>>>> also checked several other Debian systems and NONE have the >>>>>>>> "x86_64-linux-gnu" directories. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> root at dc01:~# uname -r >>>>>>>> 2.6.32-5-amd64 >>>>>>>> root at dc01:~# l /lib | grep x86 >>>>>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Dec 27 2012 >>>>> ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 -> >>>>>>>> ld-2.11.3.so >>>>>>>> root at dc01:~# l /usr/lib | grep x86 >>>>>>>> root at dc01:~# >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this the problem? What version of Debian is the guide >>>>> for? I believe >>>>>>>> Debian 8 was released recently but cannot be sure since it >>>>> is a systemd >>>>>>>> distro I now use Gentoo. If the guide is for 8, maybe we >>>>> need one for 7 >>>>>>>> since it is supported until the release of 9. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you sure it is running wheezy ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On my DC: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> root at dc01:~# cat /etc/os-release >>>>>>> PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy)" >>>>>>> NAME="Debian GNU/Linux" >>>>>>> VERSION_ID="7" >>>>>>> VERSION="7 (wheezy)" >>>>>>> ID=debian >>>>>>> ANSI_COLOR="1;31" >>>>>>> HOME_URL="http://www.debian.org/" >>>>>>> SUPPORT_URL="http://www.debian.org/support/" >>>>>>> BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.debian.org/" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> root at dc01:~# uname -r >>>>>>> 3.2.0-4-amd64 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> root at dc01:~# ls /lib | grep x86 >>>>>>> x86_64-linux-gnu >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rowland >>>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >>>>> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >>>>> >>>>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >>> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >>> >>> >