samba - Mar 2015 - Samba 4.1 gentent, ls, no display domain user name on Primary ACDC but wbinfo -u yes

On 23/03/15 11:42, Jhon P wrote:
> Thanks for the clarification.
>
> They are around 80 clients.
> All windows 7 and Xp pro.
>
> One member server linux  with Debian 7 for testing the future file 
> server. All on this works fine.
>
> Other servers that are not in the domain
>
> Thanks.
> > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:26:08 +0000
> > From: rowlandpenny at googlemail.com
> > To: samba at lists.samba.org
> > Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba 4.1 gentent, ls, no display domain user 
> name on Primary ACDC but wbinfo -u yes
> >
> > On 23/03/15 00:55, Jhon P wrote:
> > > It will be necessary to join this PDC to the domain?
> >
> > Firstly, it is a 'DC' not a 'PDC', there really is no
concept of a
> > Primary Domain Controller in active directory, other than one of the
> > FSMO roles. These FSMO roles are the only differences between DCs ,
> > other than this, all DCs are the same (or should)
> >
> > You do not join a DC to the domain unless it is a second (or 
> subsequent)
> > DC, when you provision a DC or classicupgrade a PDC, it is 
> automatically
> > joined to the domain.
> >
> > > I did this once and it was not me well and I had to restore the 
> backup.
> > >
> > > The samba documentation does not say anything of this.
> > > Remember this isnt a member server this is the PDC, on samba ACDC
doc
> > > say this:
> > >
> > > "We /*_do not recommend_* using the Domain Controller as a
file
> > > Server. This is due to issues with the winbind internal to the
Domain
> > > Controller./"
> > >
> > > But I also need to use it because I had no other server to use as
a
> > > file server.
> >
> > It is not recommended, but you can do it, there are plenty of people 
> who
> > post on here who do use a DC as a fileserver.
> >
> > Just how many clients do you have and what sort ?
> >
> > Rowland
> >
> > >
> > > If there is no chance you do not want to waste time with this.
> > >
> > > Many thank you very much.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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What is the DC (you may have said, but if you have, sorry I have forgotten)

Rowland

One ADDC with linux Debian 7 and Samba4.1 working.}
Im test "NIS" and works fine after we expand the samba 4 schema. ;-)

This is the DC with the problem of getent and can give domain users info only
"wbinfo -u".

When list directories with "ls" also display UID instead Domain User
ID in the directories.
When i use "getent passwd" this also display passwd file users
"unix users" not domain users.

The Domain Works well anyway and i can manage with "RSAT" but if i
like manage it with linux its really dificult, because im need give the UID and
before check it with  "wbinfo --uid-info" to know how its the owner 
of a directory for example.

I really want to manage it with linux, because I come from the old school of
samba 2 :-), really depend 100% of microsoft does not make me very happy i
think.
 
All clients are conected to this server.

Regards and thanks.
> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 12:16:54 +0000
> From: rowlandpenny at googlemail.com
> To: samba at lists.samba.org
> Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba 4.1 gentent, ls, no display domain user name on
Primary ACDC but wbinfo -u yes
> 
> On 23/03/15 11:42, Jhon P wrote:
> > Thanks for the clarification.
> >
> > They are around 80 clients.
> > All windows 7 and Xp pro.
> >
> > One member server linux  with Debian 7 for testing the future file 
> > server. All on this works fine.
> >
> > Other servers that are not in the domain
> >
> > Thanks.
> > > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:26:08 +0000
> > > From: rowlandpenny at googlemail.com
> > > To: samba at lists.samba.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba 4.1 gentent, ls, no display domain
user
> > name on Primary ACDC but wbinfo -u yes
> > >
> > > On 23/03/15 00:55, Jhon P wrote:
> > > > It will be necessary to join this PDC to the domain?
> > >
> > > Firstly, it is a 'DC' not a 'PDC', there really
is no concept of a
> > > Primary Domain Controller in active directory, other than one of
the
> > > FSMO roles. These FSMO roles are the only differences between DCs
,
> > > other than this, all DCs are the same (or should)
> > >
> > > You do not join a DC to the domain unless it is a second (or 
> > subsequent)
> > > DC, when you provision a DC or classicupgrade a PDC, it is 
> > automatically
> > > joined to the domain.
> > >
> > > > I did this once and it was not me well and I had to restore
the
> > backup.
> > > >
> > > > The samba documentation does not say anything of this.
> > > > Remember this isnt a member server this is the PDC, on samba
ACDC doc
> > > > say this:
> > > >
> > > > "We /*_do not recommend_* using the Domain Controller
as a file
> > > > Server. This is due to issues with the winbind internal to
the Domain
> > > > Controller./"
> > > >
> > > > But I also need to use it because I had no other server to
use as a
> > > > file server.
> > >
> > > It is not recommended, but you can do it, there are plenty of
people
> > who
> > > post on here who do use a DC as a fileserver.
> > >
> > > Just how many clients do you have and what sort ?
> > >
> > > Rowland
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If there is no chance you do not want to waste time with
this.
> > > >
> > > > Many thank you very much.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read
the
> > > instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
> 
> What is the DC (you may have said, but if you have, sorry I have forgotten)
> 
> Rowland
> 
> -- 
> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
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On 23/03/15 12:51, Jhon P wrote:
> One ADDC with linux Debian 7 and Samba4.1 working.}
> Im test "NIS" and works fine after we expand the samba 4 schema.
;-)
>
> This is the DC with the problem of getent and can give domain users 
> infoonly "wbinfo -u".
>
> When list directories with "ls" also display UID instead Domain
User
> ID in the directories.
> When i use "getent passwd" this also display passwd file users
"unix
> users" not domain users.
>
> The Domain Works well anyway and i can manage with "RSAT" but if
i
> like manage it with linux its really dificult, because im need give 
> the UID and before check it with  "wbinfo --uid-info" to know how
its
> the owner  of a directory for example.
>
> I really want to manage it with linux, because I come from the old 
> school of samba 2:-), really depend 100% of microsoft does not make me 
> very happy i think.
>
> All clients are conected to this server.
>
> Regards and thanks.
>
> > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 12:16:54 +0000
> > From: rowlandpenny at googlemail.com
> > To: samba at lists.samba.org
> > Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba 4.1 gentent, ls, no display domain user 
> name on Primary ACDC but wbinfo -u yes
> >
> > On 23/03/15 11:42, Jhon P wrote:
> > > Thanks for the clarification.
> > >
> > > They are around 80 clients.
> > > All windows 7 and Xp pro.
> > >
> > > One member server linux with Debian 7 for testing the future file
> > > server. All on this works fine.
> > >
> > > Other servers that are not in the domain
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:26:08 +0000
> > > > From: rowlandpenny at googlemail.com
> > > > To: samba at lists.samba.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba 4.1 gentent, ls, no display
domain user
> > > name on Primary ACDC but wbinfo -u yes
> > > >
> > > > On 23/03/15 00:55, Jhon P wrote:
> > > > > It will be necessary to join this PDC to the domain?
> > > >
> > > > Firstly, it is a 'DC' not a 'PDC', there
really is no concept of a
> > > > Primary Domain Controller in active directory, other than
one of the
> > > > FSMO roles. These FSMO roles are the only differences
between DCs ,
> > > > other than this, all DCs are the same (or should)
> > > >
> > > > You do not join a DC to the domain unless it is a second (or
> > > subsequent)
> > > > DC, when you provision a DC or classicupgrade a PDC, it is
> > > automatically
> > > > joined to the domain.
> > > >
> > > > > I did this once and it was not me well and I had to
restore the
> > > backup.
> > > > >
> > > > > The samba documentation does not say anything of this.
> > > > > Remember this isnt a member server this is the PDC, on
samba
> ACDC doc
> > > > > say this:
> > > > >
> > > > > "We /*_do not recommend_* using the Domain
Controller as a file
> > > > > Server. This is due to issues with the winbind internal
to the
> Domain
> > > > > Controller./"
> > > > >
> > > > > But I also need to use it because I had no other server
to use
> as a
> > > > > file server.
> > > >
> > > > It is not recommended, but you can do it, there are plenty
of
> people
> > > who
> > > > post on here who do use a DC as a fileserver.
> > > >
> > > > Just how many clients do you have and what sort ?
> > > >
> > > > Rowland
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If there is no chance you do not want to waste time
with this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thank you very much.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and
read the
> > > > instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
> >
> > What is the DC (you may have said, but if you have, sorry I have 
> forgotten)
> >
> > Rowland
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> > instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
OK, so you have:
A) one debian 7 DC running self compiled samba 4.1.?
B) one debian 7 member server running ?? samba 4.1.?
C) 80 windows clients

Is this correct ?

Rowland