samba - Sep 2004 - PDC for XP: empty desktop and desktop.ini showing up

Hello there,

I'm trying to set up Samba as a PDC for Windows XP Professional (SP2). 
It seems to work fine. Machine accounts are created automatically, 
passwords between Unix and Samba users get synced, I can logon, profile 
directories are created - but there's a problem.

I know that this is well-known, but it drives me crazy and I don't know 
any solution.

First of all, the initial profile is nearly empty. The XP style has been 
disabled and my desktop shows no icons at all. It just looks "wrong"
and
"half-made". Apart from that, the first logon works fine. However, any
subsequent logons display that nasty desktop.ini file in an editor.

In log.smbd I can't see (at default debug level) any error messages, 
just the normal "X connected to service Y".

I guess that my empty desktop problem and the desktop.ini appearance 
have something in common, but I don't know how to solve.

Does anybody know how to make Samba a working PDC for XP?

Thanks!
Florian

hi,
hide files = /desktop.ini/ntuser.ini/NTUSER.*/
may help you out
Regards

Florian Effenberger schrieb:
> Hello there,
> 
> I'm trying to set up Samba as a PDC for Windows XP Professional (SP2). 
> It seems to work fine. Machine accounts are created automatically, 
> passwords between Unix and Samba users get synced, I can logon, profile 
> directories are created - but there's a problem.
> 
> I know that this is well-known, but it drives me crazy and I don't know
> any solution.
> 
> First of all, the initial profile is nearly empty. The XP style has been 
> disabled and my desktop shows no icons at all. It just looks
"wrong" and
> "half-made". Apart from that, the first logon works fine.
However, any
> subsequent logons display that nasty desktop.ini file in an editor.
> 
> In log.smbd I can't see (at default debug level) any error messages, 
> just the normal "X connected to service Y".
> 
> I guess that my empty desktop problem and the desktop.ini appearance 
> have something in common, but I don't know how to solve.
> 
> Does anybody know how to make Samba a working PDC for XP?
> 
> Thanks!
> Florian

Hi there,
> hide files = /desktop.ini/ntuser.ini/NTUSER.*/
Thanks, I already tried that out, but it does just nothing. ;-(

Florian

Hi, Florian
that sounds miracle to me cause this works at my setup very well
suse 9 samba 3.07 ldap pdc
where have you implemented
hide files = /desktop.ini/ntuser.ini/NTUSER.*/ ?
you have to it in the profiles share , if you have a extra one
or in the home section , if you configured samba to hold the profile in 
the home share for beeing compatible with win 98,
be sure that your profile is realy loaded from samba , and not
a caching one from the client machine.
I recommend to setup a new test user , let win xp create
the brand new profile, make your setups, log out log in
so normally you will see the problem solved
Regards

Florian Effenberger schrieb:
> Hi there,
> 
>> hide files = /desktop.ini/ntuser.ini/NTUSER.*/
> 
> 
> Thanks, I already tried that out, but it does just nothing. ;-(
> 
> Florian
>

Hi Robert,
> that sounds miracle to me cause this works at my setup very well
> suse 9 samba 3.07 ldap pdc
> where have you implemented
> hide files = /desktop.ini/ntuser.ini/NTUSER.*/ ?
> you have to it in the profiles share , if you have a extra one
> or in the home section , if you configured samba to hold the profile in 
> the home share for beeing compatible with win 98,
> be sure that your profile is realy loaded from samba , and not
> a caching one from the client machine.
> I recommend to setup a new test user , let win xp create
> the brand new profile, make your setups, log out log in
> so normally you will see the problem solved
You were right, adding it to the specific shares helped me out, thanks a 
lot!

However, I still get this "funny" profile with an empty desktop and no
XP style, so it seems that something is just not correct. Do you use XP 
as a client to your PDC? How does your profile look when you log on for 
the first time?

Thanks
Florian

Hi Florian,
the profile for a new user is produced
by the win client machine the user is logged in for the first time.
The profile is created ( stored ) when this user logs of.
So the first time profile is the first time profile from the win machine
( whatever this is designed ) , so if you have leaving this all at default
it is the win standard thema relating to the win version.
Therfor you should not mix the win versions if you use  roaming profiles.
The default function from profiles is to cache the profiles on the local 
  win client too, so it merges the cache and the server profile
at login this produces miracles sometimes, so best way is to to stop
caching of profiles on the client machines , this can be done by
reg entries or policies ( ntconfig.pol ).
After all ,things that you do to a profile ( maybe set showing hidden 
files of explorer etc ) are stored in the profile, and for sure should 
be stored on samba at logout, relogin should bring up the last time 
created entries.
Yes i have win xp srv pack 2 german clients.
did you controlled if the profile gets really stored at logout,
perhaps you have permissions problems on the profile share
so it cant be rewritten at logout
the log should show up more info
Regards

Florian Effenberger schrieb:
> Hi Robert,
> 
>> that sounds miracle to me cause this works at my setup very well
>> suse 9 samba 3.07 ldap pdc
>> where have you implemented
>> hide files = /desktop.ini/ntuser.ini/NTUSER.*/ ?
>> you have to it in the profiles share , if you have a extra one
>> or in the home section , if you configured samba to hold the profile 
>> in the home share for beeing compatible with win 98,
>> be sure that your profile is realy loaded from samba , and not
>> a caching one from the client machine.
>> I recommend to setup a new test user , let win xp create
>> the brand new profile, make your setups, log out log in
>> so normally you will see the problem solved
> 
> 
> You were right, adding it to the specific shares helped me out, thanks a 
> lot!
> 
> However, I still get this "funny" profile with an empty desktop
and no
> XP style, so it seems that something is just not correct. Do you use XP 
> as a client to your PDC? How does your profile look when you log on for 
> the first time?
> 
> Thanks
> Florian
>

I'm getting the "funny" profile with an empty desktop and no XP
style, as
well.  I just posted this problem a few minutes ago.  See my post for 
relevant details.

From: Florian Effenberger <floeff@arcor.de>
Subject: Re: [Samba] PDC for XP: empty desktop and desktop.ini showing up
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:01:57 +0200



However, I still get this "funny" profile with an empty desktop and no
XP
style, so it seems that something is just not correct. Do you use XP as a 
client to your PDC? How does your profile look when you log on for the first 
time?

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