samba - Feb 2004 - password changes with ctrl-alt-del

Currently I'am using samba for file sharing. My smb.conf file is basically 
setup as default with a few minor changes. Therefore, my samba server is 
not part of a domain. Right now users can map the samba shares with 
windows XP... With this type of setup is it possible for them to change 
there smbpasswd using ctrl-alt-del? If so any examples or hints on how 
to set this up would be great. 
 
I have tried a few things and the only way I can get this to work is to 
make my samba server a PDC and have the workstations join the domain. The 
version of samba I'am using is 2.2.7a.

Thanks

Thanks for the reply. That is the impression that I was getting too.

So as an alternative to no domains, I figure I will create a domain but 
not join any machines to that domain.
 
As a test I have setup a windows domain with a share. Then mapped a non 
domain member machine to that domain's share. I was able to ctrl-alt-del 
and change the password. 

So now I have been trying replicate this with samba. So far already 
tried this with 2.2.7 and didn't work..... So now I'am going to try it
with
3.0.2a. 

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, J?rn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> Geddes wrote:
> > Currently I'am using samba for file sharing. My smb.conf file is
basically
> > setup as default with a few minor changes. Therefore, my samba server
is
> > not part of a domain. Right now users can map the samba shares with 
> > windows XP... With this type of setup is it possible for them to
change
> > there smbpasswd using ctrl-alt-del? If so any examples or hints on how
> > to set this up would be great. 
> >  
> > I have tried a few things and the only way I can get this to work is
to
> > make my samba server a PDC and have the workstations join the domain.
> 
> afaik, that's the only way to do it. if a machine is not a domain 
> member, ctrl-alt-del changes the local password, and there is no way 
> around that.
> 
> > The 
> > version of samba I'am using is 2.2.7a.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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Computer Systems Specialist
University of New Brunswick
Faculty of Computer Science
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, J?rn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> Geddes wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply. That is the impression that I was getting too.
> > 
> > So as an alternative to no domains, I figure I will create a domain
but
> > not join any machines to that domain.
> 
> ???
> 
> if you press ctrl-alt-del on a machine that's not part of a domain, 
> all you can change is the local password.
> if you want your users to be able to change their server-side 
> password, you have to join the machine to the domain.
What I have done is on the XP pro workstation (non domain member) I press 
ctrl-alt-del then change password then I select: 

User name: (test user on PDC)
log on to: (manually enter netbios name of the PDC)
old password: xxxxxx
new password: xxxxxx          
confirm new password: xxxxxx

and the password changes on the PDC. I would like to be able to do the 
same with the PDC instead of being a windows box, I would like it to be
samba. So far my attempts have failed and was wondering if anyone has 
achieved this.

> 
> > As a test I have setup a windows domain with a share. Then mapped a
non
> > domain member machine to that domain's share. I was able to
ctrl-alt-del
> > and change the password. 
> > 
> > So now I have been trying replicate this with samba. So far already 
> > tried this with 2.2.7 and didn't work..... So now I'am going
to try it with
> > 3.0.2a. 
> > 
> > On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, J?rn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Geddes wrote:
> >>
> >>>Currently I'am using samba for file sharing. My smb.conf
file is basically
> >>>setup as default with a few minor changes. Therefore, my samba
server is
> >>>not part of a domain. Right now users can map the samba shares
with
> >>>windows XP... With this type of setup is it possible for them
to change
> >>>there smbpasswd using ctrl-alt-del? If so any examples or hints
on how
> >>>to set this up would be great. 
> >>> 
> >>>I have tried a few things and the only way I can get this to
work is to
> >>>make my samba server a PDC and have the workstations join the
domain.
> >>
> >>afaik, that's the only way to do it. if a machine is not a
domain
> >>member, ctrl-alt-del changes the local password, and there is no
way
> >>around that.
> >>
> >>
> >>>The 
> >>>version of samba I'am using is 2.2.7a.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > 
> 
> 
>