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Alex Moen wrote:> OK... this has probably been asked in the past, but until there is a > decent archive it's impossible to tell.... :) > > Just set up a 2.2.4 PDC / Solaris 8 / E-250. > > Wierd thing #1: Windows 98 client will NOT connect on first attempt: > type in username and password, hit enter, wait 2 minutes, failure > message. Click OK on the failure popup, hit enter again on the login > dialogue, wait another 2 minutes and client logs in almost perfectly (by > almost: trouble with home directory %u thingie). Any ideas? >I am not sure this is a samba issue. I have also seen this once a Windows NT 4 PDC and a somebody reported me this on a Windows 2000 ADC (always with windows 98). Seemed to have to do with networking stuff. I the Windows 2000 case, the guy that told me had contacted CISCO (they were using a CISCO layer 3 switch) and CISCO changed some stuff on the switch (don't know what). Same scenario for NT 4 case: Baystack switch, PC's with Accton network card. Changed speed on switches (half duplex). Problem did not completely disappear but sure improved.> Wierd thing #2: Win2K server, no AD, no BDC. Just wanna join the > domain so that I can use terminal server. Asking for a username and > password. The only reference that I have found in any of the > documentation is how you must use a "Samba Administrator" account to > authenticate the machine, but there is no docs that explain WHAT a > "Samba Administrator" account is, or how to make one.try root ?> > Any help will be GREATLY appreciated!!! > > Thanks in advance! > > * > Alex Moen > Operations Technology Specialist > 701-662-6481 > 800-880-4213 > * > >
Make sure the clients/server have the server info in their hosts/lmhosts files. Jim> -----Original Message----- > From: Alex Moen [mailto:alexm@ndtel.com] > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:02 AM > To: samba@samba.org > Subject: RE: [Samba] Win98 join a PDC > > > Good information, and I will definitely investigate this. However, my > domain right now is in a test situation (working on replacing > an NT 4.0 > domain with this) and is not on our main network which does > consist of Cisco > switches. I have it set up on a small cheapo switch, > isolated from the main > network, where the only thing that is on the switch is the > Samba box, the > W2K box, and the W98 client. Also, DHCP shows no signs of > any problems: the > workstation gets an address with no delay. > > Any other ideas that I can try? > > Thanks!! > > Alex > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: samba-admin@lists.samba.org > [mailto:samba-admin@lists.samba.org]On > > Behalf Of Mac > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:58 AM > > To: samba@samba.org > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Win98 join a PDC > > > > > > >From: Dirk Allaert <da@schaubroeck.be> > > >To: Alex Moen <alexm@ndtel.com> > > >Cc: samba@lists.samba.org > > >Subject: Re: [Samba] Win98 join a PDC > > >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:46:32 +0200 > > > > > > > > > > > >Alex Moen wrote: > > >> Wierd thing #1: Windows 98 client will NOT connect on > first attempt: > > >> type in username and password, hit enter, wait 2 minutes, failure > > >> message. Click OK on the failure popup, hit enter again > on the login > > >> dialogue, wait another 2 minutes and client logs in almost > > perfectly (by > > >> almost: trouble with home directory %u thingie). Any ideas? > > >> > > >I am not sure this is a samba issue. I have also seen this once a > > >Windows NT 4 PDC and a somebody reported me this on a > Windows 2000 ADC > > >(always with windows 98). Seemed to have to do with > networking stuff. > > > > > > > > >I the Windows 2000 case, the guy that told me had > contacted CISCO (they > > >were using a CISCO layer 3 switch) and CISCO changed some > stuff on the > > >switch (don't know what). Same scenario for NT 4 case: > Baystack switch, > > >PC's with Accton network card. Changed speed on switches > (half duplex). > > >Problem did not completely disappear but sure improved. > > > > > > This sounds highly likely. The Cisco 'stuff' they changed > was probably > > 'portfast'. > > > > See:- > > > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/12.html > > > > for an explnation of why it can tkae upto a minute for a > switch to start > > passing packets after the PC has come up. Also some (Cisco > specific) > > steps you can take (with detailed instructions) to reduce > the problem. > > [One of the steps is to twiddle duplex settings, but it's > the very last > > thing to try]. > > > > > > Mac > > Assistant Systems Adminstrator @nibsc.ac.uk > > dmccann@nibsc.ac.uk > > Work: +44 1707 654753 x285 Everything else: +44 7956 > > 237670 (anytime) > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba >
Log in from the W98 client and run smbstatus on the server, to see what shows up.... You can set the log level to 3 or higher, and look in the log.w98pc (or whatever the hostname is) during the failed/successful attempts to see why it fails the first time and works the second. The same (domain?) user account is being used on both the Win2k/W98 login attempts? Jim> -----Original Message----- > From: Alex Moen [mailto:alexm@ndtel.com] > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:16 PM > To: Van Sickler, Jim; samba@samba.org > Subject: RE: [Samba] Win98 join a PDC > > > Tried this... didn't help. > > An update: I got the Win2K machine to finally join the domain > using "root" > and it's password. I hate that, but I am using a different > password for the > samba side than the Unix side. > > Also, I can log in using my regular domain account on the Win2K server > perfectly. So, obviously samba is configured properly, and there's > something specific to Win98 that I am missing... > > It is ultimately consistent in logging in every other time... > even after a > logout, it takes two login attempts to get back in on the > Win98 client. > > Wierd. > > Alex > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: samba-admin@lists.samba.org > [mailto:samba-admin@lists.samba.org]On > > Behalf Of Van Sickler, Jim > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:28 PM > > To: 'Alex Moen'; samba@samba.org > > Subject: RE: [Samba] Win98 join a PDC > > > > > > Make sure the clients/server have the server > > info in their hosts/lmhosts files. > > > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Alex Moen [mailto:alexm@ndtel.com] > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:02 AM > > > To: samba@samba.org > > > Subject: RE: [Samba] Win98 join a PDC > > > > > > > > > Good information, and I will definitely investigate this. > However, my > > > domain right now is in a test situation (working on replacing > > > an NT 4.0 > > > domain with this) and is not on our main network which does > > > consist of Cisco > > > switches. I have it set up on a small cheapo switch, > > > isolated from the main > > > network, where the only thing that is on the switch is the > > > Samba box, the > > > W2K box, and the W98 client. Also, DHCP shows no signs of > > > any problems: the > > > workstation gets an address with no delay. > > > > > > Any other ideas that I can try? > > > > > > Thanks!! > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: samba-admin@lists.samba.org > > > [mailto:samba-admin@lists.samba.org]On > > > > Behalf Of Mac > > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:58 AM > > > > To: samba@samba.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Win98 join a PDC > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Dirk Allaert <da@schaubroeck.be> > > > > >To: Alex Moen <alexm@ndtel.com> > > > > >Cc: samba@lists.samba.org > > > > >Subject: Re: [Samba] Win98 join a PDC > > > > >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:46:32 +0200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Alex Moen wrote: > > > > >> Wierd thing #1: Windows 98 client will NOT connect on > > > first attempt: > > > > >> type in username and password, hit enter, wait 2 > minutes, failure > > > > >> message. Click OK on the failure popup, hit enter again > > > on the login > > > > >> dialogue, wait another 2 minutes and client logs in almost > > > > perfectly (by > > > > >> almost: trouble with home directory %u thingie). Any ideas? > > > > >> > > > > >I am not sure this is a samba issue. I have also seen > this once a > > > > >Windows NT 4 PDC and a somebody reported me this on a > > > Windows 2000 ADC > > > > >(always with windows 98). Seemed to have to do with > > > networking stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I the Windows 2000 case, the guy that told me had > > > contacted CISCO (they > > > > >were using a CISCO layer 3 switch) and CISCO changed some > > > stuff on the > > > > >switch (don't know what). Same scenario for NT 4 case: > > > Baystack switch, > > > > >PC's with Accton network card. Changed speed on switches > > > (half duplex). > > > > >Problem did not completely disappear but sure improved. > > > > > > > > > > > > This sounds highly likely. The Cisco 'stuff' they changed > > > was probably > > > > 'portfast'. > > > > > > > > See:- > > > > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/12.html > > > > > > > > for an explnation of why it can tkae upto a minute for a > > > switch to start > > > > passing packets after the PC has come up. Also some (Cisco > > > specific) > > > > steps you can take (with detailed instructions) to reduce > > > the problem. > > > > [One of the steps is to twiddle duplex settings, but it's > > > the very last > > > > thing to try]. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mac > > > > Assistant Systems Adminstrator @nibsc.ac.uk > > > > dmccann@nibsc.ac.uk > > > > Work: +44 1707 654753 x285 Everything else: +44 7956 > > > > 237670 (anytime) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL > and read the > > > > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > > > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > > >
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