Howdy folks: Please (I beg you, please!) don't follow the examples of a couple of recent posters. This is very bad form. If you want to get off the list, please don't send send a message to the list begging other readers to help (they can't). Only you can help stamp out forest fires (or get yourself off this list). At the top of every message from the list is a URL that can help you with list commands: http://samba.anu.edu.au/listproc or you can try sending a help message to the listproc software: For information on this service and how to use it, send the following request in the body of a mail message to listproc@samba.anu.edu.au: HELP All requests should be addressed to listproc@samba.anu.edu.au. Second rule of etiquette: Please don't send HTML or M$ RichText crap in your list messages (or most people will simply ignore them). Email is defined by an RFC standards document as strictly ascii text (no matter what microsloth decides it should be). Even though HTML meets the definition of ascii text, most mail readers in use today (especially character mode/console apps like pine) cannot render HTML. Even though my windoze mailer (Pegasus 3.01) can do it, the mailing list digest still makes it show up as straight text. If you don't know how to turn that RichCrap off, see the win95 annoyances page: http://www.annoyances.org Thank you for your attention. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. ****************************************************************** Stephen L Arnold sarnold@earthling.net Conserving bandwidth (and bellybutton lint)