Hello, Documentation states that one should set up only one Samba server as WINS server. While NT's TCP/IP setup has two entrys, one for a primary and one for a secondary WINS server I wonder why there should be only one Samba WINS server. Has anyone tried this with two Samba WINS servers? Did you suffer from any interferences. I did and the machines are running perfectly smooth. Did I miss something? What is the background behind the restriction in the docs? Regards, Robert -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Robert.Dahlem@frankfurt.netsurf.de Radio Bornheim - 2:2461/332@fidonet +49-69-4930830 (ZyX, V34) 2:2461/326@fidonet +49-69-94414444 (ISDN X.75) ---------------------------------------------------------------
On Sun, 10 May 1998, Robert Dahlem wrote:> Documentation states that one should set up only one Samba server as > WINS server. > While NT's TCP/IP setup has two entrys, one for a primary and one for a > secondary WINS server I wonder why there should be only one Samba WINS > server. > Has anyone tried this with two Samba WINS servers? Did you suffer from > any interferences. > I did and the machines are running perfectly smooth. Did I miss > something? > What is the background behind the restriction in the docs?A samba wins server can't replicate its base with another wins server. The microsoft WINS replication protocol is undocumented Jean Francois ----------------------------------------------------------- Pinky: "What are we going to do tonight, Brain?" Brain: "The same thing we do every night, Pinky : try to install Windows NT !" -----------------------------------------------------------
Jean-Francois Micouleau <Jean-Francois.Micouleau@utc.fr> said> On Sun, 10 May 1998, Robert Dahlem wrote: > > While NT's TCP/IP setup has two entrys, one for a primary and one for a > > secondary WINS server I wonder why there should be only one Samba WINS > > server.> A samba wins server can't replicate its base with another wins server. > The microsoft WINS replication protocol is undocumented... and wins servers cache information discovered from listening to MS announcements, so simply replicating DNS/hosts/yp/whatever information to two or more Samba wins servers won't keep them from getting out of synch. As Microsoft plan to retire wins in favour of DNS in the very near future, I'd recommend using it cautiously, and making sure you don't depend on anything peculiar to WINS. If you do You Will Hate Yourself Later (:-)) --dave -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify some people 185 Ellerslie Ave., | and astonish the rest. -- Mark Twain Willowdale, Ontario | davecb@hobbes.ss.org, canada.sun.com M2N 1Y3. 416-223-8968 | http://java.science.yorku.ca/~davecb
David, On Mon, 11 May 1998 23:58:53 +1000, David Collier-Brown wrote:>> > While NT's TCP/IP setup has two entrys, one for a primary and one for a >> > secondary WINS server I wonder why there should be only one Samba WINS >> > server.>> A samba wins server can't replicate its base with another wins server. >> The microsoft WINS replication protocol is undocumented>.. and wins servers cache information discovered from listening >to MS announcements, so simply replicating DNS/hosts/yp/whatever >information to two or more Samba wins servers won't keep them >from getting out of synch.What I understand is that the problem lies in Samba not knowing how to replicate (sync?) itself with a MS WINS server, so a Samba WINS server and a MS WINS server would probably get out of sync soon. In my environment there is no MS WINS server, only Samba WINS servers. From trying I know that MS clients can resolve NETBIOS names by broadcasting a WINS request and Samba will answer to these requests as long as it is configured with "wins proxy = yes". The lookup in my environment depends on /etc/hosts only and this one should be in sync nearly all the time because it is fed by NIS. This is really convenient because now all clients can use anything in /etc/hosts without having to configure something special on them. Is this situation a legal exception from the rule not to setup two Samba WINS servers? Its just for the case that one machine in a net with two or more Samba servers goes down. If this were the machine with the only WINS server on it no more name resolving would be possible ...> As Microsoft plan to retire wins in favour of DNS in the very >near future, I'd recommend using it cautiously, and making sure >you don't depend on anything peculiar to WINS. > > If you do You Will Hate Yourself Later (:-)):-) I already learned that its wise to configure "wins support = no" and to point to a "wins server" when there is one and you have to insert a Samba machine in this net. But in this situation all the clients already know about some MS WINS server and I only have to care that Samba registers with it. Regards, Robert -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Robert.Dahlem@frankfurt.netsurf.de Radio Bornheim - 2:2461/332@fidonet +49-69-4930830 (ZyX, V34) 2:2461/326@fidonet +49-69-94414444 (ISDN X.75) ---------------------------------------------------------------