Hi! Currently I am doing my Master at the University of Applied Science in Salzburg in Austria and I need a topic for my master thesis. Now I am interested in what do you think about the topic "Services". I´d like to programm a module maybe called activeservice or something like that which could be included to a rails application. With this module or patch it will be possible to add and remove external web services to/ from your rails application. It could be like a docking station for different APIs or something similar. So now my question: What do you think about my idea? Does rails needs such a feature or do you have another idea what I could maybe develop within the scope of my master thesis? I would be happy for some responses! :) Matthias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
What''s the difference between active_resource and the ''activeservice'' you mentioned? -- rubyonrailsx Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig) On Thursday, October 18, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Matthias Frick wrote:> d remove external web services to/ > from your rails application. It could be like a docking station for > different APIs or something similar. So now my question: What do you > think about my idea? Does rails ne-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Hasn''t active resource been dropped in rails 3? Am 19.10.2012 12:19 schrieb "rubyonrailsx" <rubyonrailsx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:> What''s the difference between active_resource and the ''activeservice'' you > mentioned? > > -- > rubyonrailsx > Sent with Sparrow <http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig> > > On Thursday, October 18, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Matthias Frick wrote: > > d remove external web services to/ > from your rails application. It could be like a docking station for > different APIs or something similar. So now my question: What do you > think about my idea? Does rails ne > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Hmm okay it seems that acitve_resource is quite the same. What do you think about writing an SOAP wrapper for rails and compare the SOAP and REST Api''s? Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2012 12:20:28 UTC+2 schrieb cming xu:> > What''s the difference between active_resource and the ''activeservice'' you > mentioned? > > -- > rubyonrailsx > Sent with Sparrow <http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig> > > On Thursday, October 18, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Matthias Frick wrote: > > d remove external web services to/ > from your rails application. It could be like a docking station for > different APIs or something similar. So now my question: What do you > think about my idea? Does rails ne > > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/rXmoSn5J-zQJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Why don''t you go more in a direction of automated API service documentation? For example, the guys at apiary.io do this by listening in on API calls and generating documentation from that (or at least that''s the long term plan). Something like that would be very valuable for a lot of people and it could give you an easy in with SV start-ups if you want to. Comparing SOAP vs REST would be like comparing horse carts and cars... Martin On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Matthias Frick <matthias-CzibQ2rmCCzxCpKv0gTEZg@public.gmane.org>wrote:> Hmm okay it seems that acitve_resource is quite the same. > > What do you think about writing an SOAP wrapper for rails and compare the > SOAP and REST Api''s? > > Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2012 12:20:28 UTC+2 schrieb cming xu: > >> What''s the difference between active_resource and the ''activeservice'' >> you mentioned? >> >> -- >> rubyonrailsx >> Sent with Sparrow <http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig> >> >> On Thursday, October 18, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Matthias Frick wrote: >> >> d remove external web services to/ >> from your rails application. It could be like a docking station for >> different APIs or something similar. So now my question: What do you >> think about my idea? Does rails ne >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/rXmoSn5J-zQJ. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Rails does not support an interface for external APIs? Or does it offers one? For example you have to interact with the facebook graph api, twitter api, and others, is there a main basic end-to-end point for such api''s? Am Dienstag, 23. Oktober 2012 00:19:52 UTC+2 schrieb Martin Wawrusch:> > Why don''t you go more in a direction of automated API service > documentation? For example, the guys at apiary.io do this by listening in > on API calls and generating documentation from that (or at least that''s the > long term plan). Something like that would be very valuable for a lot of > people and it could give you an easy in with SV start-ups if you want to. > > Comparing SOAP vs REST would be like comparing horse carts and cars... > > Martin > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Matthias Frick <matt...-CzibQ2rmCCzxCpKv0gTEZg@public.gmane.org<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Hmm okay it seems that acitve_resource is quite the same. >> >> What do you think about writing an SOAP wrapper for rails and compare the >> SOAP and REST Api''s? >> >> Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2012 12:20:28 UTC+2 schrieb cming xu: >> >>> What''s the difference between active_resource and the ''activeservice'' >>> you mentioned? >>> >>> -- >>> rubyonrailsx >>> Sent with Sparrow <http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig> >>> >>> On Thursday, October 18, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Matthias Frick wrote: >>> >>> d remove external web services to/ >>> from your rails application. It could be like a docking station for >>> different APIs or something similar. So now my question: What do you >>> think about my idea? Does rails ne >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonra...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<javascript:> >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rubyonrails-ta...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/rXmoSn5J-zQJ. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/oKGSX4mSCNcJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
On Tuesday, 23 October 2012 11:23:06 UTC-4, Matthias Frick wrote:> > Rails does not support an interface for external APIs? Or does it offers > one? > For example you have to interact with the facebook graph api, twitter api, > and others, is there a main basic end-to-end point for such api''s? > >Not sure what you mean - the interaction with external services is typically done with gems. Some examples: Twitter - https://github.com/sferik/twitter Facebook - https://github.com/nsanta/fbgraph Git repos - https://github.com/mojombo/grit There''s also a wide variety of gems that handle the lower-level details to make interacting with APIs easier, from HTTParty to RestClient to Faraday. --Matt Jones -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/6Ab5gZ_-xsQJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
yes i know these gems. but offers rails itself a layer to hook in such external APIs? like a docking station, where you can register external services and so on.. matthias Am Mittwoch, 24. Oktober 2012 16:05:56 UTC+2 schrieb Matt Jones:> > > > On Tuesday, 23 October 2012 11:23:06 UTC-4, Matthias Frick wrote: >> >> Rails does not support an interface for external APIs? Or does it offers >> one? >> For example you have to interact with the facebook graph api, twitter >> api, and others, is there a main basic end-to-end point for such api''s? >> >> > Not sure what you mean - the interaction with external services is > typically done with gems. Some examples: > > Twitter - https://github.com/sferik/twitter > Facebook - https://github.com/nsanta/fbgraph > Git repos - https://github.com/mojombo/grit > > There''s also a wide variety of gems that handle the lower-level details to > make interacting with APIs easier, from HTTParty to RestClient to Faraday. > > --Matt Jones >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/t0KHFPfNtYAJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Matthias, the point is, that not everything has to come with Rails. Lets keep things modular and cleanly separated. Don''t try to integrate everything into the Rails core when it can just as well be done withing a Gem. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Matthias Frick <matthias-CzibQ2rmCCzxCpKv0gTEZg@public.gmane.org>wrote:> yes i know these gems. but offers rails itself a layer to hook in such > external APIs? > like a docking station, where you can register external services and so > on.. > > matthias > > Am Mittwoch, 24. Oktober 2012 16:05:56 UTC+2 schrieb Matt Jones: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, 23 October 2012 11:23:06 UTC-4, Matthias Frick wrote: >>> >>> Rails does not support an interface for external APIs? Or does it offers >>> one? >>> For example you have to interact with the facebook graph api, twitter >>> api, and others, is there a main basic end-to-end point for such api''s? >>> >>> >> Not sure what you mean - the interaction with external services is >> typically done with gems. Some examples: >> >> Twitter - https://github.com/sferik/**twitter<https://github.com/sferik/twitter> >> Facebook - https://github.com/nsanta/**fbgraph<https://github.com/nsanta/fbgraph> >> Git repos - https://github.com/mojombo/**grit<https://github.com/mojombo/grit> >> >> There''s also a wide variety of gems that handle the lower-level details >> to make interacting with APIs easier, from HTTParty to RestClient to >> Faraday. >> >> --Matt Jones >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/t0KHFPfNtYAJ. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
hmm, i understand your opinion, but nowadays it would be very convenient to have so a docking station layer.. nearly every rails app interacts with external services, so I think it would be a great idea.. more other opinions? :) Am Donnerstag, 25. Oktober 2012 02:27:15 UTC+2 schrieb Fabian Becker:> > Matthias, the point is, that not everything has to come with Rails. Lets > keep things modular and cleanly separated. Don''t try to integrate > everything into the Rails core when it can just as well be done withing a > Gem. > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Matthias Frick <matt...-CzibQ2rmCCzxCpKv0gTEZg@public.gmane.org<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> yes i know these gems. but offers rails itself a layer to hook in such >> external APIs? >> like a docking station, where you can register external services and so >> on.. >> >> matthias >> >> Am Mittwoch, 24. Oktober 2012 16:05:56 UTC+2 schrieb Matt Jones: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, 23 October 2012 11:23:06 UTC-4, Matthias Frick wrote: >>>> >>>> Rails does not support an interface for external APIs? Or does it >>>> offers one? >>>> For example you have to interact with the facebook graph api, twitter >>>> api, and others, is there a main basic end-to-end point for such api''s? >>>> >>>> >>> Not sure what you mean - the interaction with external services is >>> typically done with gems. Some examples: >>> >>> Twitter - https://github.com/sferik/**twitter<https://github.com/sferik/twitter> >>> Facebook - https://github.com/nsanta/**fbgraph<https://github.com/nsanta/fbgraph> >>> Git repos - https://github.com/mojombo/**grit<https://github.com/mojombo/grit> >>> >>> There''s also a wide variety of gems that handle the lower-level details >>> to make interacting with APIs easier, from HTTParty to RestClient to >>> Faraday. >>> >>> --Matt Jones >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonra...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<javascript:> >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rubyonrails-ta...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/t0KHFPfNtYAJ. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/4whkHs6z6FYJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
On Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:19:34 UTC-4, Matthias Frick wrote:> > hmm, i understand your opinion, but nowadays it would be very convenient > to have so a docking station layer.. nearly every rails app interacts with > external services, so I think it would be a great idea.. more other > opinions? :) > >What precisely is the "docking station layer" supposed to *do*? Perhaps some Readme-Driven Development would help clarify the idea: http://tom.preston-werner.com/2010/08/23/readme-driven-development.html --Matt Jones -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/e7uKD2TNAYkJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.