man.. why does everything is so slow on developing on windows? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/93_8XV7L1QUJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
just get a Mac, you won''t regret it (even a Mac mini if you cannot afford more than $600) On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:38 PM, lyosha <lyosha85-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> man.. why does everything is so slow on developing on windows? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/93_8XV7L1QUJ. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
How about Linux/Ubuntu? Is Mac much better than Linux too? On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:16:00 AM UTC-7, Gitted wrote:> > just get a Mac, you won''t regret it (even a Mac mini if you cannot afford > more than $600) > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:38 PM, lyosha <lyos...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org <javascript:>>wrote: > >> man.. why does everything is so slow on developing on windows? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonra...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<javascript:> >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rubyonrails-ta...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/93_8XV7L1QUJ. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/AumIihU22S0J. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
You could start with a VM running Ubuntu to get started with Rails development. A Mac would be far superior, but Ubuntu will get you started. You can do Rails development on Windows, but you may have trouble with certain gems. J On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:08 AM, rails2012 <dereklin-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> How about Linux/Ubuntu? Is Mac much better than Linux too? > > > On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:16:00 AM UTC-7, Gitted wrote: > >> just get a Mac, you won''t regret it (even a Mac mini if you cannot afford >> more than $600) >> >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:38 PM, lyosha <lyos...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >>> man.. why does everything is so slow on developing on windows? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rubyonra...@googlegroups.**com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-ta...@** >>> googlegroups.com. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>> msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/93_**8XV7L1QUJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/93_8XV7L1QUJ> >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/AumIihU22S0J. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
From a purely RoR developer perspective Linux is good. Which you would expect since most RoR applications are deployed to Linux servers - or are you deploying to Windows servers. Its just that Macs are nicer :) As to why your Windows system is slow for developing could be that you have a crappy system. Windows doesn''t help but even Linux will struggle with an under specd machine. Is your hardware up to snuff? Given enough hardware I''m sure that a Windows development machine will fly but there is an issue of getting gems to work. We had a developer here who started out with Windows and had no end of trouble getting some gems to work. He finally jacked it in and got a Mac and stopped swearing so much. My preferences are: 1) Mac = In heaven 2) Linux = No problem, I can work with this 3) Windows = If this was a job requirement I would not apply :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Hi, I am interested in the given profile. Regards, Mukesh On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:08:49 AM UTC+5:30, lyosha wrote:> > man.. why does everything is so slow on developing on windows?-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/GOavRwftQ68J. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
lyosha wrote in post #1076588:> man.. why does everything is so slow on developing on windows?It''s not. Check your machine and rails configuration. Development environment will always be slower than production or other environment that caches models.>Given enough hardware I''m sure that a Windows development machine will >fly but there is an issue of getting gems to work. We had a developer >here who started out with Windows and had no end of trouble getting >some gems to work. He finally jacked it in and got a Mac and stopped >swearing so much.In my team we have macs and windows. I develop on windows, and have no problems whatsoever. It took me a while to get my environment set up since unfortunately there are fewer windows guides out there, but it is doable, enjoyable and highly productive. There are very few gems that are nix specific and won''t work on windows. Passenger and Unicorn come to mind. You can always find alternatives (thin server). A few things here and there might require additional configuration but you get the hang of it with time. Frankly i''m a bit annoyed at Nix/Mac users pretending that development on the Mac is so much better. It isn''t. Developing on windows is just as easy and productive. If anything, it''s better because you can have a proper custom PC setup, full open source software availability, and a whole bunch of freedoms possible under windows and not under Mac. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:24 PM, masta Blasta <lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Frankly i''m a bit annoyed at Nix/Mac users pretending that development > on the Mac is so much better. It isn''t. Developing on windows is just as > easy and productive. If anything, it''s better because you can have a > proper custom PC setup, full open source software availability, and a > whole bunch of freedoms possible under windows and not under Mac.Uhhhh. Just out of curiousity, what is a "proper custom PC setup"? What limitations on "full open source software availability" does a Mac come with? And what "whole bunch of freedoms" am I currently missing out on? :-) -- Hassan Schroeder ------------------------ hassan.schroeder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org http://about.me/hassanschroeder twitter: @hassan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Hassan Schroeder wrote in post #1077015:> > Uhhhh. Just out of curiousity, what is a "proper custom PC setup"? > What limitations on "full open source software availability" does a Mac > come with? > > And what "whole bunch of freedoms" am I currently missing out on? :-) > > --I''m not going to get into a Mac vs. PC fight here. Point is, if you like PC+Windows, you can easily carry out RoR development, and anyone who says otherwise is ignorant. If you like Mac, more power to you. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:42 PM, masta Blasta <lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I''m not going to get into a Mac vs. PC fight here.I wasn''t trying to start a "fight", I just wanted clarification of your vague but sweeping statements. To help anyone trying to make their own decision :-) -- Hassan Schroeder ------------------------ hassan.schroeder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org http://about.me/hassanschroeder twitter: @hassan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
On Friday, September 21, 2012 8:25:39 PM UTC+1, Ruby-Forum.com User wrote:> > lyosha wrote in post #1076588: > > man.. why does everything is so slow on developing on windows? > > It''s not. Check your machine and rails configuration. Development > environment will always be slower than production or other environment > that caches models. > > There some history here - ruby 1.8 was significantly slower on windowsthan on unix like platforms, and ruby 1.9.2 also had windows specific performance regressions (see http://programmingzen.com/2010/07/19/the-great-ruby-shootout-july-2010/ for example).. Patch 125 of Ruby 1.9.3 had some windows specific performance fixes (IO related I think) that supposedly fixed a lot of that (I''m not a windows user) so it''s definitely worth upgrading to that if you''re running an older version.> There are very few gems that are nix specific and won''t work on windows. > Passenger and Unicorn come to mind. You can always find alternatives > (thin server). A few things here and there might require additional > configuration but you get the hang of it with time. > > Frankly i''m a bit annoyed at Nix/Mac users pretending that development > on the Mac is so much better. It isn''t. Developing on windows is just as > easy and productive. If anything, it''s better because you can have a > proper custom PC setup, full open source software availability, and a > whole bunch of freedoms possible under windows and not under Mac. > >Again, I think there is a lot of history here. It used to be that to build any gem with native extensions on windows (when using the 1 click ruby installer) you needed a paid for version of Visual studio (It even had to be a specific version I think). A tremendous amount of work (by Luis Lavena among others) has gone into improving this, but many of us remember the not so distant old days where you had to just hope that someone had build a binary package of the gem. Part of it is being slightly off the beaten path - eg capybara-webkit or poltegeist don''t support windows (or at least not officially) and it''s not because of a fundamental reason they couldn''t but because the core developers of those gems don''t use windows - windows support probably won''t happen unless someone else helps them out. jruby is a good option too. Not sure what these freedoms are though (especially compare to Linux) Fred> -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/sfMbnook-OEJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.