Rails - Jun 2012 - How to install gem on hosting site without installing?

Hello,

I am developing a small site for client and currently their static site
is hosted on godaddy. And they don''t want to move to another host for
certain reasons. Godaddy has the following configuration for the plan
that they want to go with :

Support Ruby and MySQL Versions:


    Ruby 1.8.4

    Ruby on Rails up to 2.3.2

    Rubygems 1.3.1

    MySQL 5.0.91

And they don''t allow any gems to installed if it is not there.

Now, my question is that is it possible for me to get gems that I need
on my local machine and copy/paste in some folder in the apps code so
that I don''t have to install it while deploying - and I am still able
to
use the gem/plugin? If there is no workaround for it then its going to
take a long-long time to finish the project if I have to code everything
myself.

Thanks in advance for any help.

RM.

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yes, you can do copy paste but not reliable solution.
What OS are you using? let me know I will give you few steps for copy and
paste

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On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:58 AM, renu mehta
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> Hello,
>
> I am developing a small site for client and currently their static site
> is hosted on godaddy. And they don''t want to move to another host
for
> certain reasons. Godaddy has the following configuration for the plan
> that they want to go with :
>
> Support Ruby and MySQL Versions:
>
>
>    Ruby 1.8.4
>
>    Ruby on Rails up to 2.3.2
>
>    Rubygems 1.3.1
>
>    MySQL 5.0.91
>
> And they don''t allow any gems to installed if it is not there.
>
> Now, my question is that is it possible for me to get gems that I need
> on my local machine and copy/paste in some folder in the apps code so
> that I don''t have to install it while deploying - and I am still
able to
> use the gem/plugin? If there is no workaround for it then its going to
> take a long-long time to finish the project if I have to code everything
> myself.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> RM.
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On Jun 7, 2012, at 2:58 PM, renu mehta wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am developing a small site for client and currently their static site
> is hosted on godaddy. And they don''t want to move to another host
for
> certain reasons. Godaddy has the following configuration for the plan
> that they want to go with :
> 
> Support Ruby and MySQL Versions:
> 
> 
>    Ruby 1.8.4
> 
>    Ruby on Rails up to 2.3.2
> 
>    Rubygems 1.3.1
> 
>    MySQL 5.0.91
> 
> And they don''t allow any gems to installed if it is not there.
> 
> Now, my question is that is it possible for me to get gems that I need
> on my local machine and copy/paste in some folder in the apps code so
> that I don''t have to install it while deploying - and I am still
able to
> use the gem/plugin? If there is no workaround for it then its going to
> take a long-long time to finish the project if I have to code everything
> myself.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
You can vendor all the gems, including Rails, but you''re going to be
hamstrung by that creaky-old Ruby, which may be too old for most versions of
Rails still running and certainly will cause havoc with your other gems. That
you can''t do anything about. I wouldn''t touch GoDaddy with a
barge pole anyway, but this sounds like an untenable situation for anything
written in the last two years.

Walter
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Walter Davis wrote in post #1063613:
> On Jun 7, 2012, at 2:58 PM, renu mehta wrote:
>
>>    Ruby 1.8.4
>> on my local machine and copy/paste in some folder in the apps code so
>> that I don''t have to install it while deploying - and I am
still able to
>> use the gem/plugin? If there is no workaround for it then its going to
>> take a long-long time to finish the project if I have to code
everything
>> myself.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> You can vendor all the gems, including Rails, but you''re going to
be
> hamstrung by that creaky-old Ruby, which may be too old for most
> versions of Rails still running and certainly will cause havoc with your
> other gems. That you can''t do anything about. I wouldn''t
touch GoDaddy
> with a barge pole anyway, but this sounds like an untenable situation
> for anything written in the last two years.
>
> Walter
I may be able to convince them to move another host. But then what are 
the good and cheap options for hosting which give a little control 
regarding the gems but doesn''t burden me with setting up everyother 
thing(i.e. ruby, rails, mysql, phpmyadmin etc.)- basically cheap, 
reliable managed hosting.

Thanks.
RM.

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On Jun 7, 2012, at 4:28 PM, renu mehta wrote:
> Walter Davis wrote in post #1063613:
>> On Jun 7, 2012, at 2:58 PM, renu mehta wrote:
>> 
>>>   Ruby 1.8.4
>>> on my local machine and copy/paste in some folder in the apps code
so
>>> that I don''t have to install it while deploying - and I am
still able to
>>> use the gem/plugin? If there is no workaround for it then its going
to
>>> take a long-long time to finish the project if I have to code
everything
>>> myself.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>> 
>> You can vendor all the gems, including Rails, but you''re going
to be
>> hamstrung by that creaky-old Ruby, which may be too old for most
>> versions of Rails still running and certainly will cause havoc with
your
>> other gems. That you can''t do anything about. I
wouldn''t touch GoDaddy
>> with a barge pole anyway, but this sounds like an untenable situation
>> for anything written in the last two years.
>> 
>> Walter
> 
> I may be able to convince them to move another host. But then what are 
> the good and cheap options for hosting which give a little control 
> regarding the gems but doesn''t burden me with setting up
everyother
> thing(i.e. ruby, rails, mysql, phpmyadmin etc.)- basically cheap, 
> reliable managed hosting.
Is Heroku an option for your application?

Walter
> 
> Thanks.
> RM.
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I haven''t worked much with heroku before- basically learning. Do they 
support mysql? Their logging was not good before as it allowed only last 
100 lines. Has it changed recently? What other limitations does it have 
in the production enviornment?

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read this book, it will say How to deploy yr site on Heroku

http://ruby.railstutorial.org/ruby-on-rails-tutorial-book

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On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:24 PM, renu mehta
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> I haven''t worked much with heroku before- basically learning. Do
they
> support mysql? Their logging was not good before as it allowed only last
> 100 lines. Has it changed recently? What other limitations does it have
> in the production enviornment?
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On Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:24:31 UTC-4, Ruby-Forum.com User
wrote:
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> I haven''t worked much with heroku before- basically learning. Do
they
> support mysql? Their logging was not good before as it allowed only last 
> 100 lines. Has it changed recently? 

Not sure if it''s "changed", but did you try the -n option to
`heroku logs`?
Will give you as many lines as you care to look at...

--Matt Jones 

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On Jun 7, 10:24 pm, renu mehta
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wrote:
> I haven''t worked much with heroku before- basically learning. Do
they
> support mysql? Their logging was not good before as it allowed only last
> 100 lines. Has it changed recently? What other limitations does it have
> in the production enviornment?
>
Heroku''s logging doesn''t have this sort of limit these days
(https://
devcenter.heroku.com/articles/logging)

The free database option is still a shared postgres database, but you
can buy add ons to add a mysql database if that''s what you need.

I really wouldn''t go near that go daddy hosting you mentioned: both
the ruby and rails versions are antiquated and are no longer
maintained - 2.3.2 isn''t even the latest version of 2.3.x, so
you''re
missing out on a lot of bug fixes and security issues.

Fred

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Frederick Cheung wrote in post #1063813:
> On Jun 7, 10:24pm, renu mehta
<li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> I haven''t worked much with heroku before- basically learning.
Do they
>> support mysql? Their logging was not good before as it allowed only
last
>> 100 lines. Has it changed recently? What other limitations does it have
>> in the production enviornment?
>>
>
> Heroku''s logging doesn''t have this sort of limit these
days (https://
> devcenter.heroku.com/articles/logging)
>
> The free database option is still a shared postgres database, but you
> can buy add ons to add a mysql database if that''s what you need.
>
> I really wouldn''t go near that go daddy hosting you mentioned:
both
> the ruby and rails versions are antiquated and are no longer
> maintained - 2.3.2 isn''t even the latest version of 2.3.x, so
you''re
> missing out on a lot of bug fixes and security issues.
>
> Fred
As I am working for a small non-profit charity organization hence cost 
of hosting is a issue. Also, as I am not very comfortable with 
installing and setting up the whole environment myself hence I want to 
go for a hosting plan in which I get a basic working setup. Dreamhost 
does  offer a shared hosting plan free for charity organizations. They 
offer the following setup :

Ruby 1.8.7, Rails 3.0.3 and Mysql 5.1

And I can install any gem/plugin that I need.

I am leaning towards DreamHost shared hosting plan. Any reviews about 
hosting a site on DreamHost with a shared plan?

Thanks.

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Heroku is Free for small projects.

Walter

On Jun 9, 2012, at 11:20 AM, renu mehta wrote:
> As I am working for a small non-profit charity organization hence cost 
> of hosting is a issue.
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On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:20 AM, renu mehta
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> offer the following setup :
>
> Ruby 1.8.7, Rails 3.0.3 and Mysql 5.1
So you''re getting a version of Ruby that''s no longer getting
bug fixes
and will be fully EOL''d in a year, and a very old version of Rails
lacking
current security fixes (the 3.0.x branch is now at 3.0.13, never minding
that current Rails is at 3.2.5).

Awesome deal  :-)

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