OK - now that I have written validations for my activeldap models and check them before attempting to save so I can provide normal language error messages to users by using @MODEL.validate? and setting flash[:error] with @MODEL.validate before rendering edit/new screen again. I find that what I lost was the nice .field_with_errors ''class'' apparently automatically generated with @MODEL.save errors (seems to be a new Rails 3.1 thing but perhaps it was there in Rails 2.x and I never actually noticed) Is there some way I can essentially duplicate and get the errors from a save without actually calling @MODEL.save? Bonus question along the same lines... If I have a input field that is say a collection and is not the actual stored field but rather one whose data is processed into the ActiveModel saved record before saving, can I assign the error to that field somehow? -- Craig White ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ craig.white-wmL3h9Ogt9Bhl2p70BpVqQ@public.gmane.orgm 1.800.869.6908 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.ttiassessments.com Need help communicating between generations at work to achieve your desired success? Let us help! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.