I am new to Ruby on Rails. I was trying to get Ruby on Rails
installed.
I am on Windows XP with access to internet through a proxy. I
installed Ruby and then Gem. I downloaded both as standalone packages
and unzipped them. But when i tried installing Rails through Gem , I
got the below error
"
C:\Program Files\rubygems-1.7.2>gem install rails --version 3.0.1
ERROR: While executing gem ... (Zlib::GzipFile::Error)
not in gzip format "
Before I installing Rails through Gem I had set the environment
variable HTTP_PROXY and I believe it works fine.
I am not able to make this work. I was not able to download a
standalone package of Rails for the version(3.0.1) I am trying to
install.
Any help / workaround would be appreciated.
P.S. I am unable to understand why the installation has to be only
through Gem.
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In effect I''d want to install Rails without having an internet connection. Example I may want to install Rails on a production server from where I cannot connect to the internet. Is there a way out? Thanks in advance, Shafeeq On Apr 6, 1:42 pm, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I am new to Ruby on Rails. I was trying to get Ruby on Rails > installed. > I am on Windows XP with access to internet through a proxy. I > installed Ruby and then Gem. I downloaded both as standalone packages > and unzipped them. But when i tried installing Rails through Gem , I > got the below error > " > C:\Program Files\rubygems-1.7.2>gem install rails --version 3.0.1 > ERROR: While executing gem ... (Zlib::GzipFile::Error) > not in gzip format " > Before I installing Rails through Gem I had set the environment > variable HTTP_PROXY and I believe it works fine. > > I am not able to make this work. I was not able to download a > standalone package of Rails for the version(3.0.1) I am trying to > install. > > Any help / workaround would be appreciated. > > P.S. I am unable to understand why the installation has to be only > through Gem.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On 6 April 2011 13:16, Shafeeq <mohamed.shafeeq-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> In effect I''d want to install Rails without having an internet > connection. Example I may want to install Rails on a production server > from where I cannot connect to the internet. Is there a way out? >You can install gems from local copies of the gemfiles using the "-l" option. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Where do I download the Gem files for Rails Version 3.0 and all its dependencies from ? Is there a documentation which describes how to do it? On Apr 6, 5:20 pm, Michael Pavling <pavl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On 6 April 2011 13:16, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > In effect I''d want to install Rails without having an internet > > connection. Example I may want to install Rails on a production server > > from where I cannot connect to the internet. Is there a way out? > > You can install gems from local copies of the gemfiles using the "-l" option.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Any pointers to it? I am unable to locate the standalone packages for Rails 3. On Apr 6, 6:23 pm, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Where do I download the Gem files for Rails Version 3.0 and all its > dependencies from ? Is there a documentation which describes how to do > it? > > On Apr 6, 5:20 pm, Michael Pavling <pavl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > On 6 April 2011 13:16, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > In effect I''d want to install Rails without having an internet > > > connection. Example I may want to install Rails on a production server > > > from where I cannot connect to the internet. Is there a way out? > > > You can install gems from local copies of the gemfiles using the "-l" option.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Shafeeq <mohamed.shafeeq-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Any pointers to it? I am unable to locate the standalone packages for > Rails 3. >Rails 3 is a gem. You get it from Ruby Gems. http://rubygems.org/gems/rails Amazing what you find when you do a search. B.> On Apr 6, 6:23 pm, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> Where do I download the Gem files for Rails Version 3.0 and all its >> dependencies from ? Is there a documentation which describes how to do >> it? >> >> On Apr 6, 5:20 pm, Michael Pavling <pavl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 6 April 2011 13:16, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >>>> In effect I''d want to install Rails without having an internet >>>> connection. Example I may want to install Rails on a production server >>>> from where I cannot connect to the internet. Is there a way out? >> >>> You can install gems from local copies of the gemfiles using the "-l" option. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Thanks Bryan. I was aware that Rails 3 is a gem and that it can be downloaded from http://rubygems.org but I had to download all the dependent gems in a tree like fashion and whose depth I do not know. All this through a browser :(( Is this the only solution for what I am looking for or is there an easier way out. I know that I may sound a little lazy but I come from J2EE background where I did not have to do all such things. Thanks, Shafeeq On Apr 8, 12:16 pm, Bryan Crossland <bacrossl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > Any pointers to it? I am unable to locate the standalone packages for > > Rails 3. > > Rails 3 is a gem. You get it from Ruby Gems. > > http://rubygems.org/gems/rails > > Amazing what you find when you do a search. > > B. > > > On Apr 6, 6:23 pm, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> Where do I download the Gem files for Rails Version 3.0 and all its > >> dependencies from ? Is there a documentation which describes how to do > >> it? > > >> On Apr 6, 5:20 pm, Michael Pavling <pavl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > >>> On 6 April 2011 13:16, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > >>>> In effect I''d want to install Rails without having an internet > >>>> connection. Example I may want to install Rails on a production server > >>>> from where I cannot connect to the internet. Is there a way out? > > >>> You can install gems from local copies of the gemfiles using the "-l" option. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On 6 April 2011 13:16, Shafeeq <mohamed.shafeeq-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> In effect I''d want to install Rails without having an internet > connection. Example I may want to install Rails on a production server > from where I cannot connect to the internet. Is there a way out?Bundler''s ''package'' command does what you''re describing here: http://gembundler.com/bundle_package.html It''ll resolve the gem dependencies for you, fetch the necessary gem files, and then store them inside your project. Of course, this depends on having an internet connection and a working Rubygems on the machine that you initially run ''bundle package'' on. But after that, any other machine can install the dependencies for your app (including rails) without hitting rubygems.org. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On 6 April 2011 09:42, Shafeeq <mohamed.shafeeq-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: <snip Windows proxy issues>> I am not able to make this work. I was not able to download a > standalone package of Rails for the version(3.0.1) I am trying to > install. > > Any help / workaround would be appreciated. > > P.S. I am unable to understand why the installation has to be only > through Gem.The short answer is that the ''rails'' package is really just a very small piece of software that specifies several dependencies (i.e other software packages that it requires to run: activerecord, actionpack, etc.). These packages in turn have their own dependencies. As you''ve discovered, resolving these dependencies by hand is a pain, so we have a package manager specifically for Ruby packages, called Rubygems. If you''re not used to package managers, it seems a bit ridiculous at first -- why can''t the software vendor just package up everything necessary for a particular piece of software into one download? It''s a very common pattern in open source software distribution (e.g. apt-get in Debian/Ubuntu; pypi for Python) because you might as well make use of shared libraries if you can (no need to redownload Rack five times just because five pieces of software need it), plus it absolves individual software maintainers from having to do all that packaging work every time they release -- they just specify their dependencies and they''re done. (Having said that, I believe there are all-in-one Rails packages available for Windows, but I haven''t used any of them for several years, so I don''t know what the status of them is. In any case, you''ll want to get Rubygems working so that you can install other optional libraries as the needs of your app demand.) The longer answer is that Ruby''s dependence on the Rubygems system is a little controversial in certain circles (e.g. the Debian maintainers). There''s no reason that Ruby software packages couldn''t be released in a format that also allows for a generic standard installation straight into /usr/local/lib without relying on Rubygems for installation. Of course, you still have the problem of dependency resolution which you''d just have to punt to another system to handle. So unless you are fascinated by the politics of open source package management then you can ignore this paragraph. :) Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Chris,
Thanks for the response. I am used to package managers in systems
like Ubuntu and understand the benefits of having package managers.
But If you want to install a software like say Eclipse or Netbeans in
Ubuntu you have the flexibility of doing so either through the
package manager or by just unpacking the tarball into a directory of
your choice. Its about having an alternative if one of it does not
work or just about having the freedom to make a choice.
E.g. : When i am thrown with the below error and since I do not
understand the inner working of Rubygems, I am left with no other
option :
C:\Documents and Settings\AllUsers\Desktop> gem install rails --
version 3.0.1
ERROR: While executing gem ... (Zlib::GzipFile::Error)
not in gzip format
I was able to locate ''all in one'' rails package until version
2.2.3
at http://rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=307 but not the newer versions.
Regards,
Shafeeq.
On Apr 8, 2:30 pm, Chris Mear
<chrism...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:> On 6 April 2011 09:42, Shafeeq
<mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> <snip Windows proxy issues>
>
> > I am not able to make this work. I was not able to download a
> > standalone package of Rails for the version(3.0.1) I am trying to
> > install.
>
> > Any help / workaround would be appreciated.
>
> > P.S. I am unable to understand why the installation has to be only
> > through Gem.
>
> The short answer is that the ''rails'' package is really
just a very
> small piece of software that specifies several dependencies (i.e other
> software packages that it requires to run: activerecord, actionpack,
> etc.). These packages in turn have their own dependencies. As
you''ve
> discovered, resolving these dependencies by hand is a pain, so we have
> a package manager specifically for Ruby packages, called Rubygems.
>
> If you''re not used to package managers, it seems a bit ridiculous
at
> first -- why can''t the software vendor just package up everything
> necessary for a particular piece of software into one download?
It''s a
> very common pattern in open source software distribution (e.g. apt-get
> in Debian/Ubuntu; pypi for Python) because you might as well make use
> of shared libraries if you can (no need to redownload Rack five times
> just because five pieces of software need it), plus it absolves
> individual software maintainers from having to do all that packaging
> work every time they release -- they just specify their dependencies
> and they''re done.
>
> (Having said that, I believe there are all-in-one Rails packages
> available for Windows, but I haven''t used any of them for several
> years, so I don''t know what the status of them is. In any case,
you''ll
> want to get Rubygems working so that you can install other optional
> libraries as the needs of your app demand.)
>
> The longer answer is that Ruby''s dependence on the Rubygems system
is
> a little controversial in certain circles (e.g. the Debian
> maintainers). There''s no reason that Ruby software packages
couldn''t
> be released in a format that also allows for a generic standard
> installation straight into /usr/local/lib without relying on Rubygems
> for installation. Of course, you still have the problem of dependency
> resolution which you''d just have to punt to another system to
handle.
> So unless you are fascinated by the politics of open source package
> management then you can ignore this paragraph. :)
>
> Chris
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Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:30 AM, Shafeeq <mohamed.shafeeq-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Chris, > Thanks for the response. I am used to package managers in systems > like Ubuntu and understand the benefits of having package managers. > But If you want to install a software like say Eclipse or Netbeans in > Ubuntu you have the flexibility of doing so either through the > package manager or by just unpacking the tarball into a directory of > your choice. Its about having an alternative if one of it does not > work or just about having the freedom to make a choice. > E.g. : When i am thrown with the below error and since I do not > understand the inner working of Rubygems, I am left with no other > option : > C:\Documents and Settings\AllUsers\Desktop> gem install rails -- > version 3.0.1 > ERROR: While executing gem ... (Zlib::GzipFile::Error) > not in gzip format > I was able to locate ''all in one'' rails package until version 2.2.3 > at http://rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=307 but not the newer versions. >Installing Rails on Windows is a slightly different process than installing it on a *nix based OS. For Windows you will want to go here: http://rubyinstaller.org/ and download their installer for it following the guide they have. The reason you can''t find the latest packages for Rails on rubyforge.org is because they are no longer the official package management site. That is now rubygems.org. As for dependencies, when you install Rails using the command gem install rails or ruby installer if on windows all the dependency libraries will be downloaded and installed for you. After downloading or installing a gem like rails you can always see all the dependencies for that gem by running gem dependencies <gem name>. Keep in mind that you don''t have to install the gem to see it''s dependencies. You can learn more by going here: http://docs.rubygems.org/read/chapter/10 B.> > On Apr 8, 2:30 pm, Chris Mear <chrism...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> On 6 April 2011 09:42, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >> <snip Windows proxy issues> >> >>> I am not able to make this work. I was not able to download a >>> standalone package of Rails for the version(3.0.1) I am trying to >>> install. >> >>> Any help / workaround would be appreciated. >> >>> P.S. I am unable to understand why the installation has to be only >>> through Gem. >> >> The short answer is that the ''rails'' package is really just a very >> small piece of software that specifies several dependencies (i.e other >> software packages that it requires to run: activerecord, actionpack, >> etc.). These packages in turn have their own dependencies. As you''ve >> discovered, resolving these dependencies by hand is a pain, so we have >> a package manager specifically for Ruby packages, called Rubygems. >> >> If you''re not used to package managers, it seems a bit ridiculous at >> first -- why can''t the software vendor just package up everything >> necessary for a particular piece of software into one download? It''s a >> very common pattern in open source software distribution (e.g. apt-get >> in Debian/Ubuntu; pypi for Python) because you might as well make use >> of shared libraries if you can (no need to redownload Rack five times >> just because five pieces of software need it), plus it absolves >> individual software maintainers from having to do all that packaging >> work every time they release -- they just specify their dependencies >> and they''re done. >> >> (Having said that, I believe there are all-in-one Rails packages >> available for Windows, but I haven''t used any of them for several >> years, so I don''t know what the status of them is. In any case, you''ll >> want to get Rubygems working so that you can install other optional >> libraries as the needs of your app demand.) >> >> The longer answer is that Ruby''s dependence on the Rubygems system is >> a little controversial in certain circles (e.g. the Debian >> maintainers). There''s no reason that Ruby software packages couldn''t >> be released in a format that also allows for a generic standard >> installation straight into /usr/local/lib without relying on Rubygems >> for installation. Of course, you still have the problem of dependency >> resolution which you''d just have to punt to another system to handle. >> So unless you are fascinated by the politics of open source package >> management then you can ignore this paragraph. :) >> >> Chris > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. 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I appreciate the time members take to answer my question and help me out. But the answers so far are either not relevant to my question or did not really help me. The question is quite simple. I want to install Rails 3 on a machine(server) where there is no internet connection. I am allowed only to FTP files to that server. I have installed Ruby and RubyGems on that server machine by FTPing the installation packages rubyinstaller-1.9.2-p180.exe and rubygems-1.7.2.tgz. Now I want to install Rails on the same server where there is no internet connection. I"ll not be able to use "gem install rails" because there is no internet connection. Is there a way I can package Rails gem and all its dependencies (in a machine where I have internet connection) into a single file to be FTPed to the server (where I dont have internet) for installation? Thanks in advance ! On Apr 8, 5:50 pm, Bryan Crossland <bacrossl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:30 AM, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > Chris, > > Thanks for the response. I am used to package managers in systems > > like Ubuntu and understand the benefits of having package managers. > > But If you want toinstalla software like say Eclipse or Netbeans in > > Ubuntu you have the flexibility of doing so either through the > > package manager or by just unpacking the tarball into a directory of > > your choice. Its about having an alternative if one of it does not > > work or just about having the freedom to make a choice. > > E.g. : When i am thrown with the below error and since I do not > > understand the inner working of Rubygems, I am left with no other > > option : > > C:\Documents and Settings\AllUsers\Desktop> geminstallrails-- > > version 3.0.1 > > ERROR: While executing gem ... (Zlib::GzipFile::Error) > > not in gzip format > > I was able to locate ''all in one''railspackage until version 2.2.3 > > athttp://rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=307but not the newer versions. > > InstallingRailson Windows is a slightly different process than installing it on a *nix based OS. For Windows you will want to go here:http://rubyinstaller.org/and download their installer for it following the guide they have. > > The reason you can''t find the latest packages forRailson rubyforge.org is because they are no longer the official package management site. That is now rubygems.org. > > As for dependencies, when youinstallRailsusing the command geminstallrailsor ruby installer if on windows all the dependency libraries will be downloaded and installed for you. After downloading or installing a gem likerailsyou can always see all the dependencies for that gem by running gem dependencies <gem name>. Keep in mind that you don''t have toinstallthe gem to see it''s dependencies. You can learn more by going here:http://docs.rubygems.org/read/chapter/10 > > B. > > > > > On Apr 8, 2:30 pm, Chris Mear <chrism...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> On 6 April 2011 09:42, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > >> <snip Windows proxy issues> > > >>> I am not able to make this work. I was not able to download a > >>> standalone package ofRailsfor the version(3.0.1) I am trying to > >>>install. > > >>> Any help / workaround would be appreciated. > > >>> P.S. I amunableto understand why the installation has to be only > >>> through Gem. > > >> The short answer is that the ''rails'' package is really just a very > >> small piece of software that specifies several dependencies (i.e other > >> software packages that it requires to run: activerecord, actionpack, > >> etc.). These packages in turn have their own dependencies. As you''ve > >> discovered, resolving these dependencies by hand is a pain, so we have > >> a package manager specifically for Ruby packages, called Rubygems. > > >> If you''re not used to package managers, it seems a bit ridiculous at > >> first -- why can''t the software vendor just package up everything > >> necessary for a particular piece of software into one download? It''s a > >> very common pattern in open source software distribution (e.g. apt-get > >> in Debian/Ubuntu; pypi for Python) because you might as well make use > >> of shared libraries if you can (no need to redownload Rack five times > >> just because five pieces of software need it), plus it absolves > >> individual software maintainers from having to do all that packaging > >> work every time they release -- they just specify their dependencies > >> and they''re done. > > >> (Having said that, I believe there are all-in-oneRailspackages > >> available for Windows, but I haven''t used any of them for several > >> years, so I don''t know what the status of them is. In any case, you''ll > >> want to get Rubygems working so that you caninstallother optional > >> libraries as the needs of your app demand.) > > >> The longer answer is that Ruby''s dependence on the Rubygems system is > >> a little controversial in certain circles (e.g. the Debian > >> maintainers). There''s no reason that Ruby software packages couldn''t > >> be released in a format that also allows for a generic standard > >> installation straight into /usr/local/lib without relying on Rubygems > >> for installation. Of course, you still have the problem of dependency > >> resolution which you''d just have to punt to another system to handle. > >> So unless you are fascinated by the politics of open source package > >> management then you can ignore this paragraph. :) > > >> Chris > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby onRails: Talk" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. 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On 14 April 2011 12:30, Shafeeq <mohamed.shafeeq-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> The question is quite simple.But the answer to simple questions is frequently much more complicated...> Is there a way I can package Rails gem and > all its dependencies (in a machine where I have internet connection) > into a single file to be FTPed to the server (where I dont have > internet) for installation?Yes. You can download all the dependent gems from rubygems.org. Zip them into one file, and ftp them.> I"ll not be able to use "gem install rails" because there > is no internet connection.Yes you can... you use "gem install rails -l" to install from local files.> a machine(server) where there is no internet connection.As an aside, how will this machine receive OS, framework and application patches? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Apr 14, 4:46 pm, Michael Pavling <pavl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On 14 April 2011 12:30, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > The question is quite simple. > > But the answer to simple questions is frequently much more complicated... > > > Is there a way I can package Rails gem and > > all its dependencies (in a machine where I have internet connection) > > into a single file to be FTPed to the server (where I dont have > > internet) for installation? > > Yes. You can download all the dependent gems from rubygems.org. Zip > them into one file, and ftp them.Thanks. When you said I can download all the dependent gems and zip them, do i have to download them all manually from rubygems.org using a browser? Or if I choose to download them all through RubyGems installer whats the path where I can find all the downloaded gems in the rails installation location? If the Gems are present at a location where there are lots of other non-Rails Gems, then wouldn''t it be very painful to segregate the Rails Gems? I wish there was a simpler way like all the Rails Gems packaged into one bundle available for download. This is in addition to the existing way of installation. This is about having an additional option to a valid situation where you can install do an installation over the internet.> > > I"ll not be able to use "gem install rails" because there > > is no internet connection. > > Yes you can... you use "gem install rails -l" to install from local files. >Thanks. This has been answered already and I am aware of the -l option.What I meant above by "gem install rails" is installation through internet.> > a machine(server) where there is no internet connection. > > As an aside, how will this machine receive OS, framework and > application patches?OS installation / patches are taken care by another team. Even then I do not see a need to have an internet connection. Patch installations have always been offline. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Shafeeq <mohamed.shafeeq-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > On Apr 14, 4:46 pm, Michael Pavling <pavl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > On 14 April 2011 12:30, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > The question is quite simple. > > > > But the answer to simple questions is frequently much more complicated... > > > > > Is there a way I can package Rails gem and > > > all its dependencies (in a machine where I have internet connection) > > > into a single file to be FTPed to the server (where I dont have > > > internet) for installation? > > > > Yes. You can download all the dependent gems from rubygems.org. Zip > > them into one file, and ftp them. > > Thanks. When you said I can download all the dependent gems and > zip them, do i have to download them all manually from rubygems.org > using a browser? Or if I choose to download them all through RubyGems > installer whats the path where I can find all the downloaded gems in > the rails installation location?No you don''t have to download through a browser from rubygems.org. You can download them through the gem installer. You can find the location of where a gem is installed on your system by running the following command: gem which <name_of_gem>> If the Gems are present at a location > where there are lots of other non-Rails Gems, then wouldn''t it be very > painful to segregate the Rails Gems? >There will be lots of gems installed on your system for different reasons. No it is not painful to segregate them. You can see a list of the gems that Rails has a dependency on by running the following command: gem dependency rails The gem installer is your best tool. Take the time to read the manuals which will give you more than enough information on the above questions you have and more. http://docs.rubygems.org/> I wish there was a simpler way like all the Rails Gems packaged > into one bundle available for download. This is in addition to the > existing way of installation. This is about having an additional > option to a valid situation where you can install do an installation > over the internet. >The easier way is the gem installer whether you are connected to the internet or you have a copy of the gem package file you transferred onto your server from another machine. The gem installer does not need the internet to install a gem. You just have to have the gem you want to install. Where are all the packages that you need to install Rails? rubygems.org. And now the argument has come full circle. B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Apr 16, 1:48 am, Bryan Crossland <bacrossl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > On Apr 14, 4:46 pm, Michael Pavling <pavl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > On 14 April 2011 12:30, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > The question is quite simple. > > > > But the answer to simple questions is frequently much more complicated... > > > > > Is there a way I can package Rails gem and > > > > all its dependencies (in a machine where I have internet connection) > > > > into a single file to be FTPed to the server (where I dont have > > > > internet) for installation? > > > > Yes. You can download all the dependent gems from rubygems.org. Zip > > > them into one file, and ftp themDo i have to locate the gem files manually in order to zip them into a single file? Say i run "gem dependency -r rails" which returns me a list of say 100 gems. These gems are located in a directory where there are already 1000 gem files which includes these Rails and its dependent files also. Do I have to browse through the file system manually to locate these 100 rails dependent gem files(from the already existing 1000 files) in order to package/zip them into a single file? Wouldn''t that be painful? Is there an automated way of packaging the gem files which would take the output from "gem dependency -r rails" and package them into a single file? Thanks, S> > > Thanks. When you said I can download all the dependent gems and > > zip them, do i have to download them all manually from rubygems.org > > using a browser? Or if I choose to download them all through RubyGems > > installer whats the path where I can find all the downloaded gems in > > the rails installation location? > > No you don''t have to download through a browser from rubygems.org. You can > download them through the gem installer. You can find the location of where > a gem is installed on your system by running the following command: > > gem which <name_of_gem> > > > If the Gems are present at a location > > where there are lots of other non-Rails Gems, then wouldn''t it be very > > painful to segregate the Rails Gems? > > There will be lots of gems installed on your system for different reasons. > No it is not painful to segregate them. You can see a list of the gems that > Rails has a dependency on by running the following command: > > gem dependency rails > > The gem installer is your best tool. Take the time to read the manuals which > will give you more than enough information on the above questions you have > and more. > > http://docs.rubygems.org/ > > > I wish there was a simpler way like all the Rails Gems packaged > > into one bundle available for download. This is in addition to the > > existing way of installation. This is about having an additional > > option to a valid situation where you can install do an installation > > over the internet. > > The easier way is the gem installer whether you are connected to the > internet or you have a copy of the gem package file you transferred onto > your server from another machine. The gem installer does not need the > internet to install a gem. You just have to have the gem you want to > install. Where are all the packages that you need to install Rails? > rubygems.org. And now the argument has come full circle. > > B.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:36 AM, rubynewbie <mohamed.shafeeq-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>wrote:> > > On Apr 16, 1:48 am, Bryan Crossland <bacrossl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > wrote: > > > > > On Apr 14, 4:46 pm, Michael Pavling <pavl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > On 14 April 2011 12:30, Shafeeq <mohamed.shaf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > The question is quite simple. > > > > > > But the answer to simple questions is frequently much more > complicated... > > > > > > > Is there a way I can package Rails gem and > > > > > all its dependencies (in a machine where I have internet > connection) > > > > > into a single file to be FTPed to the server (where I dont have > > > > > internet) for installation? > > > > > > Yes. You can download all the dependent gems from rubygems.org. Zip > > > > them into one file, and ftp them > > Do i have to locate the gem files manually in order to zip them > into a single file? Say i run "gem dependency -r rails" which > returns me a list of say 100 gems. These gems are located in a > directory where there are already 1000 gem files which includes these > Rails and its dependent files also. Do I have to browse through the > file system manually to locate these 100 rails dependent gem > files(from the already existing 1000 files) in order to package/zip > them into a single file? Wouldn''t that be painful? Is there an > automated way of packaging the gem files which would take the output > from "gem dependency -r rails" and package them into a single file? > >Yes you have to locate them. The good news is that 99.9% of the time they are all installed in the same path. This makes your job of finding them easier. Do you have to find them all by hand? No, you''re a programmer. Write a script that parses the output and then gets the packages for you placing them all into one nice zip file. Not everything in life is going to come easy and nicely packaged for you. Sometimes you have to work at it. B.> Thanks, > > S > > > > > > > Thanks. When you said I can download all the dependent gems and > > > zip them, do i have to download them all manually from rubygems.org > > > using a browser? Or if I choose to download them all through RubyGems > > > installer whats the path where I can find all the downloaded gems in > > > the rails installation location? > > > > No you don''t have to download through a browser from rubygems.org. You > can > > download them through the gem installer. You can find the location of > where > > a gem is installed on your system by running the following command: > > > > gem which <name_of_gem> > > > > > If the Gems are present at a location > > > where there are lots of other non-Rails Gems, then wouldn''t it be very > > > painful to segregate the Rails Gems? > > > > There will be lots of gems installed on your system for different > reasons. > > No it is not painful to segregate them. You can see a list of the gems > that > > Rails has a dependency on by running the following command: > > > > gem dependency rails > > > > The gem installer is your best tool. Take the time to read the manuals > which > > will give you more than enough information on the above questions you > have > > and more. > > > > http://docs.rubygems.org/ > > > > > I wish there was a simpler way like all the Rails Gems packaged > > > into one bundle available for download. This is in addition to the > > > existing way of installation. This is about having an additional > > > option to a valid situation where you can install do an installation > > > over the internet. > > > > The easier way is the gem installer whether you are connected to the > > internet or you have a copy of the gem package file you transferred onto > > your server from another machine. The gem installer does not need the > > internet to install a gem. You just have to have the gem you want to > > install. Where are all the packages that you need to install Rails? > > rubygems.org. And now the argument has come full circle. > > > > B. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.