Heyyy First off, I love rails. Even thuogh I''m not as good as some of you guys here, but hey, I started couple months ago, and I am still on my way learning more. But.... I know there are downsides to Rails too. One of them is scalability. What on earth does that mean? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Apr 21, 11:59 pm, David Zhu <dzwestwindso...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Heyyy > > First off, I love rails. Even thuogh I''m not as good as some of you > guys here, but hey, I started couple months ago, and I am still on my > way learning more. > > But.... I know there are downsides to Rails too. One of them is > scalability. What on earth does that mean? >Not an awful lot to be quite honest. That''s not to say that building an extremely high volume website in rails wouldn''t present difficulties, but that''s because it''s a difficult task in general. Fred> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
> Not an awful lot to be quite honest. That''s not to say that building > an extremely high volume website in rails wouldn''t present > difficulties, but that''s because it''s a difficult task in general.Sorry, not an awful lot of what? Problems? Or scalablity? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Apr 22, 12:24 am, David Zhu <dzwestwindso...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Not an awful lot to be quite honest. That''s not to say that building > > an extremely high volume website in rails wouldn''t present > > difficulties, but that''s because it''s a difficult task in general. > > Sorry, not an awful lot of what? Problems? Or scalablity?"What on earth does that mean?" => not an awful lot. Also, does X scale has been discussed to death for most values of X. Fred> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
David Zhu wrote:> Heyyy > > First off, I love rails. Even thuogh I''m not as good as some of you > guys here, but hey, I started couple months ago, and I am still on my > way learning more. > > > But.... I know there are downsides to Rails too. One of them is > scalability. What on earth does that mean?You don''t have a scaling problem! If you ever do have a scaling problem you won''t have to ask what it means. Most of us here would love to have scaling problems, or rather the need to be concerned about it. A scaling problem means that people are actually using your application. Unless you have a completely boneheaded business plan, then it also means you''re making more than enough profit to acquire whatever you need to solve said scaling problem. Although, some reasonable level of planning along way would be prudent. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:59 PM, David Zhu <dzwestwindsor45-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Heyyy > > First off, I love rails. Even thuogh I''m not as good as some of you > guys here, but hey, I started couple months ago, and I am still on my > way learning more. > > > But.... I know there are downsides to Rails too. One of them is > scalability. What on earth does that mean?Wow. If you don''t know what scalability even is then you definitely don''t know if Rails has a problem with it. -------------------- http://subimage.com http://twitter.com/subimage -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On 21 April 2010 23:59, David Zhu <dzwestwindsor45-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> But.... I know there are downsides to Rails too. One of them is > scalability. What on earth does that mean?You don''t *know* that a downside of Rails is its scalability if you don''t know what scalability means. You may well have *heard* or read it said somewhere, and clarification would certainly help you understand whether any issue around scalability is likely to be of any specific concern to you. My guess is that it''s not going to be something you need to worry about too much for the moment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
I havent had the luxury of having scaling issues myself yet, but I if an application has trouble handling high volumes of traffic, then the framework is only one of several possible causes for these issues. A more likely cause for the issues are the programmers and not the framework. If you are interested in information on how to scale rails, then Greg Pollack has made an excelent screencast series called "Scaling Rails": http://railslab.newrelic.com/scaling-rails On Apr 22, 12:59 am, David Zhu <dzwestwindso...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Heyyy > > First off, I love rails. Even thuogh I''m not as good as some of you > guys here, but hey, I started couple months ago, and I am still on my > way learning more. > > But.... I know there are downsides to Rails too. One of them is > scalability. What on earth does that mean? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Scaling problems is what happens when you all of the sudden need to figure out where to put your 5.000 servers all running 2xQuad core cpus and have 128 GB memory. Facebook has 50.000 cache servers, thats ONLY for cache. If your site can run on a handful of servers, you don''t really have a scaling problem. Trausti On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Sharagoz <sharagoz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I havent had the luxury of having scaling issues myself yet, but I if > an application has trouble handling high volumes of traffic, then the > framework is only one of several possible causes for these issues. A > more likely cause for the issues are the programmers and not the > framework. If you are interested in information on how to scale rails, > then Greg Pollack has made an excelent screencast series called > "Scaling Rails": > http://railslab.newrelic.com/scaling-rails > > > > > On Apr 22, 12:59 am, David Zhu <dzwestwindso...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> Heyyy >> >> First off, I love rails. Even thuogh I''m not as good as some of you >> guys here, but hey, I started couple months ago, and I am still on my >> way learning more. >> >> But.... I know there are downsides to Rails too. One of them is >> scalability. What on earth does that mean? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Apr 21, 4:59 pm, David Zhu <dzwestwindso...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Heyyy > > First off, I love rails. Even thuogh I''m not as good as some of you > guys here, but hey, I started couple months ago, and I am still on my > way learning more. > > But.... I know there are downsides to Rails too. One of them is > scalability. What on earth does that mean? > > --I would highly recommend this PDF on scaling rails. The cover alone is worth the viewing, and the content of the PDF is unequaled. http://jasonseifer.com/assets/learningtoscaleror.pdf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.