Hi guys, Can you tell me which are the most popular and widely used IDEs for Ruby, and for Ruby on Rails development ? According to your impressions ? What do you use the most ? Are there different solutions for the different operating systems ? Thanks, Krum. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
IDE ? Ruby? What the fuck ?) __ Best Regards, Dieinzige On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Krum Bakalsky wrote:> Hi guys, > > Can you tell me which are the most popular and widely used IDEs for > Ruby, and for Ruby on Rails development ? According to your > impressions ? > What do you use the most ? Are there different solutions for the > different operating systems ? > > > Thanks, > > Krum. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Our , yes, but i prefer textmate, because windows is not os __ Best Regards, Dieinzige On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Krum Bakalsky wrote:> Maybe notepad is enough for you ? :)__ Best Regards, Dieinzige On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Ivan Nastyukhin wrote:> IDE ? Ruby? What the fuck ?) > > __ > Best Regards, Dieinzige > > On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Krum Bakalsky wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> Can you tell me which are the most popular and widely used IDEs for >> Ruby, and for Ruby on Rails development ? According to your >> impressions ? >> What do you use the most ? Are there different solutions for the >> different operating systems ? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Krum. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
> Are there different solutions for the different operating systems ?Yes.> Can you tell me which are the most popular and widely used IDEs for > Ruby, and for Ruby on Rails development ? According to your > impressions ?The Mac guys seem to go for Textmate. On Ubuntu and Windows I''ve used Eclipse and Netbeans, and much prefer Netbeans - been using the last three releases with very few issues. I found Eclipse a bit lardy and slow - although part of that was the lower spec of my old PC, and changing to Xubuntu sped it up a bit. A few years ago I dabbled with Aptana on Windows, and hated it - couldn''t fathom any of the functionality, and might as well have been using Notepad. Hell - I even used Visual Studio for a while - but there was no "Integration" with Ruby... and that was just from my familiarity with it from ASP Classic days. Of course you can use *any* text editor - but an IDE will speed some stuff up for you (at the risk of you getting lazy and not knowing what is going on under the hood - like when running rake tasks, or server instances).> IDE ? Ruby? What the fuck ?)...others prefer to use Vi and Emacs (but they fight amongst themselves so much, they tend to stay out of the way ;-) Use whatever tools help you Get Things Done. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
> Our , yes, but i prefer textmate, because windows is not os>> IDE ? Ruby? What the fuck ?)Go on then... in the sliding scale between hardcore text editors (Vi, Edlin, Emacs) and bloaty IDEs, how can people not consider Textmate to be closer to an IDE than a text editor? One of my colleagues at the moment is a Mac Fanboy, and spits and curses about IDEs and happily sits there batting away with Textmate and all its "integrated" syntax highlighting and autocomplete helpers... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Krum Bakalsky <kpym.kgb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi guys, > > Can you tell me which are the most popular and widely used IDEs for > Ruby, and for Ruby on Rails development ? According to your > impressions ? > What do you use the most ? Are there different solutions for the > different operating systems ?I use RubyMine (the best one IMO), and TextMate for casual editing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
I use Rubymine both on my Linux laptop and my Mac Mini. I find it much better than Aptana, which I used for about a year. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Frederick Cheung
2010-Mar-12 11:09 UTC
Re: Most popular IDEs for Ruby on Rails development
On Mar 12, 10:39 am, Michael Pavling <pavl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Our , yes, but i prefer textmate, because windows is not os > >> IDE ? Ruby? What the fuck ?) > > Go on then... in the sliding scale between hardcore text editors (Vi, > Edlin, Emacs) and bloaty IDEs, how can people not consider Textmate to > be closer to an IDE than a text editor? > > One of my colleagues at the moment is a Mac Fanboy, and spits and > curses about IDEs and happily sits there batting away with Textmate > and all its "integrated" syntax highlighting and autocomplete > helpers...Seems to me that textmate''s bundles offer similar possibilities to emacs modes or vim scripts (both of which can add syntax highlighting/ autocompletion similar to what textmate supports) Fred -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
KARTHIKEYAN RANGASWAMY
2010-Mar-12 11:09 UTC
Re: Most popular IDEs for Ruby on Rails development
Hi, You can use Instant Rails for Rails development The recent one is Aptana Studio.But the thing is that this Apatana has inbuilt JDK which takes more space and it will slow down your system.But this Apatana IDE has more features as compared to Instant Rails Hope this answers your question On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Xavier Noria <fxn-xlncskNFVEJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Krum Bakalsky <kpym.kgb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > Can you tell me which are the most popular and widely used IDEs for > > Ruby, and for Ruby on Rails development ? According to your > > impressions ? > > What do you use the most ? Are there different solutions for the > > different operating systems ? > > I use RubyMine (the best one IMO), and TextMate for casual editing. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- Rgds, Karthikeyan Rangaswamy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Gianluca Tessarolo
2010-Mar-12 11:17 UTC
Re: Most popular IDEs for Ruby on Rails development
I use Netbeans (www.netbeans.org) since 2000 and I''m very happy (it has VERY GOOD Ruby/Rails support)> Hi guys, > > Can you tell me which are the most popular and widely used IDEs for > Ruby, and for Ruby on Rails development ? According to your > impressions ? > What do you use the most ? Are there different solutions for the > different operating systems ? > > > Thanks, > > Krum. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
I use Quanta on my Linux boxes. It''s side pane tree view of file- system is best thing which always makes me come back to Quanta after trying other programs. Not to mention that Quanta is a web developers editor with lots of nice things like all sorts of tag and style dialogue windows making work easy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Juanma Uribe
2010-Mar-12 11:55 UTC
Re: Re: Most popular IDEs for Ruby on Rails development
I use Intellij RubyMine or Idea 2010/3/12 Bigos <ruby.object-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>> I use Quanta on my Linux boxes. It''s side pane tree view of file- > system is best thing which always makes me come back to Quanta after > trying other programs. Not to mention that Quanta is a web developers > editor with lots of nice things like all sorts of tag and style > dialogue windows making work easy. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Aldric Giacomoni
2010-Mar-12 14:08 UTC
Re: Most popular IDEs for Ruby on Rails development
Krum Bakalsky wrote:> Hi guys, > > Can you tell me which are the most popular and widely used IDEs for > Ruby, and for Ruby on Rails development ? According to your > impressions ? > What do you use the most ? Are there different solutions for the > different operating systems ? > > > Thanks, > > Krum.http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al_hzYODcgxwdG9tUFhqcVVoUDVaLTlqT2YtNjV1N0E&hl=en There.. Take a look at this. I am teaching myself Vim, but own a license for Rubymine. If you''re going for RoR, I would heartily recommend Rubymine for IDEs and Vim otherwise. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Krum Bakalsky <kpym.kgb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi guys, > > Can you tell me which are the most popular and widely used IDEs for > Ruby, and for Ruby on Rails development ? According to your > impressions ? > What do you use the most ? Are there different solutions for the > different operating systems ?http://static.destiney.com/emacs_screen_shot.jpg -- Greg Donald destiney.com | gregdonald.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Krum Bakalsky wrote:> Hi guys, > > Can you tell me which are the most popular and widely used IDEs for > Ruby, and for Ruby on Rails development ? According to your > impressions ? > What do you use the most ? Are there different solutions for the > different operating systems ?Of all the IDE I''ve used I hate Netbeans the least. But, note that I don''t use any of them for Ruby development. I basically have to use an IDE for my Java work to keep myself sane. I just can''t bring myself to say that I "like" any of them though. As for Ruby and Ruby on Rails, I''m a Textmate users. As far as any debate on whether Textmate could be categorized as an IDE, I don''t really care. All I know is that I find it to be an excellent text editor for writing code. The IDEs that constantly popup suggestions for completion actually drives me a bit nuts. I know a lot of people love that sort of thing. However, I want a text editor that helps me edit text, and then gets out of my way so I can write code. I don''t need, or want, it to try to write code for me. This is what Textmate does for me. I also know a number of developers that prefer VIM, but for very similar reasons. I could see the appeal of being able to stick to one tool (a terminal in this case), but I''m still a lot more comfortable with a terminal window and a Textmate window. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Michael Schuerig
2010-Mar-12 16:04 UTC
Re: Most popular IDEs for Ruby on Rails development
On Friday 12 March 2010, Greg Donald wrote:> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Krum Bakalsky <kpym.kgb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>wrote:> > Hi guys, > > > > Can you tell me which are the most popular and widely used IDEs for > > Ruby, and for Ruby on Rails development ? According to your > > impressions ? > > What do you use the most ? Are there different solutions for the > > different operating systems ? > > http://static.destiney.com/emacs_screen_shot.jpgThere''s one feature I''ve been missing in Emacs: find all files in a project matching a certain, incrementally typed pattern. And activate this by a single shortcut. Eclipse/Aptana and Textmate do this exceptionally well, I haven''t found this functionality in a similarly easy and quick way in Emacs. It might be hidden somewhere, please point it out in case I just didn''t find it. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:michael-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Michael Schuerig <michael-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:>> http://static.destiney.com/emacs_screen_shot.jpg > > There''s one feature I''ve been missing in Emacs:There are only missing features until you add them. http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-lisp-intro/emacs-lisp-intro.html -- Greg Donald destiney.com | gregdonald.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
I advise using a text editor and command line tools if you are just learning. An IDE will hide too many important things from you. Plus, you''ll spend time dicking around with the IDE and plugins and just trying to get it working that you can be spending building your application or learning Rails and Ruby. I use Eclipse for Java development. Not because I like it, but because I''ve used an IDE my whole Java career and can not do without the crutch. I''ve vowed to not restrict myself like that with Ruby and Groovy. On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:24 AM, Krum Bakalsky <kpym.kgb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi guys, > > Can you tell me which are the most popular and widely used IDEs for > Ruby, and for Ruby on Rails development ? According to your > impressions ? > What do you use the most ? Are there different solutions for the > different operating systems ? > > > Thanks, > > Krum. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- Curtis Cooley curtis.cooley-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org home:http://curtiscooley.com blog:http://ponderingobjectorienteddesign.blogspot.com ==============Leadership is a potent combination of strategy and character. But if you must be without one, be without the strategy. -- H. Norman Schwarzkopf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Michael Schuerig
2010-Mar-12 18:02 UTC
Re: Most popular IDEs for Ruby on Rails development
On Friday 12 March 2010, Greg Donald wrote:> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Michael Schuerig<michael-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:> >> http://static.destiney.com/emacs_screen_shot.jpg > > > > There''s one feature I''ve been missing in Emacs: > There are only missing features until you add them. > > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-lisp-intro/emacs-lisp-intro.h > tmlYes, I know. Over the past 10+ years I''ve made a few feeble attempts, however, I never fell as much in love with Emacs and elisp programming to do anything substantial. So, no, this is not really an option for me. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:michael-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Sandip Ransing
2010-Mar-12 23:25 UTC
Re: Re: Most popular IDEs for Ruby on Rails development
Vi is my favorite editor on linux (ubuntu karmic koala) rails.vim plugin adds syntax highlighting and auto indentation support to it. Installation help click<http://www.funonrails.com/2010/02/vim-editor-for-ruby-on-rails.html> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Michael Schuerig <michael-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>wrote:> On Friday 12 March 2010, Greg Donald wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Michael Schuerig > <michael-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > >> http://static.destiney.com/emacs_screen_shot.jpg > > > > > > There''s one feature I''ve been missing in Emacs: > > There are only missing features until you add them. > > > > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-lisp-intro/emacs-lisp-intro.h > > tml > > Yes, I know. Over the past 10+ years I''ve made a few feeble attempts, > however, I never fell as much in love with Emacs and elisp programming > to do anything substantial. So, no, this is not really an option for me. > > Michael > > -- > Michael Schuerig > mailto:michael-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org > http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- Sandip --- www.funonrails.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Hi........ Use VIM nice editor for rails .... provides all functionalities to do coding. Regards, Shyam +91-9716-18-9650 On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Sandip Ransing <san2821-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Vi is my favorite editor on linux (ubuntu karmic koala) > rails.vim plugin adds syntax highlighting and auto indentation support to > it. > Installation help click<http://www.funonrails.com/2010/02/vim-editor-for-ruby-on-rails.html> > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Michael Schuerig <michael-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>wrote: > >> On Friday 12 March 2010, Greg Donald wrote: >> > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Michael Schuerig >> <michael-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> > >> http://static.destiney.com/emacs_screen_shot.jpg >> > > >> > > There''s one feature I''ve been missing in Emacs: >> > There are only missing features until you add them. >> > >> > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-lisp-intro/emacs-lisp-intro.h >> > tml >> >> Yes, I know. Over the past 10+ years I''ve made a few feeble attempts, >> however, I never fell as much in love with Emacs and elisp programming >> to do anything substantial. So, no, this is not really an option for me. >> >> Michael >> >> -- >> Michael Schuerig >> mailto:michael-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org >> http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > Sandip > > --- > www.funonrails.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
I use RubyMine. Disabled all plugins I don''t use, it does the job for me. On Mar 13, 7:55 am, shyam mohan <shyammohankano...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi........ > Use VIM > nice editor for rails .... > provides all functionalities to do coding. > > Regards, > Shyam > +91-9716-18-9650 > > > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Sandip Ransing <san2...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Vi is my favorite editor on linux (ubuntu karmic koala) > > rails.vim plugin adds syntax highlighting and auto indentation support to > > it. > > Installation help click<http://www.funonrails.com/2010/02/vim-editor-for-ruby-on-rails.html> > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Michael Schuerig <mich...-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>wrote: > > >> On Friday 12 March 2010, Greg Donald wrote: > >> > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Michael Schuerig > >> <mich...-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> > >>http://static.destiney.com/emacs_screen_shot.jpg > > >> > > There''s one feature I''ve been missing in Emacs: > >> > There are only missing features until you add them. > > >> >http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-lisp-intro/emacs-lisp-intro.h > >> > tml > > >> Yes, I know. Over the past 10+ years I''ve made a few feeble attempts, > >> however, I never fell as much in love with Emacs and elisp programming > >> to do anything substantial. So, no, this is not really an option for me. > > >> Michael > > >> -- > >> Michael Schuerig > >> mailto:mich...-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org > >>http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscrib e@googlegroups.com> > >> . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > > -- > > Sandip > > > --- > >www.funonrails.com > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscrib e@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Um, because it''s not? Because its easy and fast? On Mar 12, 5:39 am, Michael Pavling <pavl...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Our , yes, but i prefer textmate, because windows is not os > >> IDE ? Ruby? What the fuck ?) > > Go on then... in the sliding scale between hardcore text editors (Vi, > Edlin, Emacs) and bloaty IDEs, how can people not consider Textmate to > be closer to an IDE than a text editor? > > One of my colleagues at the moment is a Mac Fanboy, and spits and > curses about IDEs and happily sits there batting away with Textmate > and all its "integrated" syntax highlighting and autocomplete > helpers...-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Already there was a discussion on same topic few days back in the community.. just google before you post any ;) IDE Discussion<http://groups.google.co.in/group/rubyonrails-talk/browse_thread/thread/8959e8226604ba68/d7137b7c6e18fa65?lnk=gst&q=IDE#d7137b7c6e18fa65> Best Wishes, Saideep Annadatha On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Krum Bakalsky <kpym.kgb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi guys, > > Can you tell me which are the most popular and widely used IDEs for > Ruby, and for Ruby on Rails development ? According to your > impressions ? > What do you use the most ? Are there different solutions for the > different operating systems ? > > > Thanks, > > Krum. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Hi Krum, You didn''t say which OS you were interested in... I''m new to RoR (6 months in, so take what want from my comments) and use Aptana Studio, and before I get all the flames from the Rails gurus regarding IDE''s over command line tools can I just say that it''s because my front end is usually Flex, which, like Aptana is built on Eclipse, so when I was getting started it seemed natural. I like the Aptana IDE because it also provides a very simple way of hooking in to the server. Being new to Rails, and coming from a Windows background, I like the Graphical UI. That said, I have always used the Shell for the usual Ruby/Rails/Rake/ Capistrano commands etc, and only really use Aptana Studio as the editor and nothing more. There is no code hinting to get in the way, but it will tell me if my syntax is wrong (ie unexpected kEND etc) which is really all I need. However, the last six months learning curve has been massive, and I am moving more and more towards the Shell and away from the Windows UI norms........so maybe one day I will shout about textmate or vim to do my editing from the Shell - but not just yet ;) Paul On Mar 12, 10:24 am, Krum Bakalsky <kpym....-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi guys, > > Can you tell me which are the most popular and widely used IDEs for > Ruby, and for Ruby on Rails development ? According to your > impressions ? > What do you use the most ? Are there different solutions for the > different operating systems ? > > Thanks, > > Krum.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Norm Scherer
2010-Mar-15 16:22 UTC
Re: Re: Most popular IDEs for Ruby on Rails development
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Norm Scherer <normscherer-ihVZJaRskl1bRRN4PJnoQQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> There are only missing features until you add them. > > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-lisp-intro/emacs-lisp-intro.html > > Emacs can be made to do anything!And people who shy away from that power aren''t really programmers IMO. IDEs make me touch my mouse way too much. The longer I can keep my hands directly on the keyboard, the more productive I am. It''s not difficult to understand. -- Greg Donald destiney.com | gregdonald.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Michael Pavling
2010-Mar-15 19:09 UTC
Re: Re: Most popular IDEs for Ruby on Rails development
On 15 March 2010 17:40, Greg Donald <gdonald-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Norm Scherer wrote: >> Emacs can be made to do anything! > > And people who shy away from that power aren''t really programmers IMO.Good job it''s worth a whole 2pence :-/> IDEs make me touch my mouse way too much. The longer I can keep my > hands directly on the keyboard, the more productive I am. It''s not > difficult to understand.How is it harder to learn the IDE keyboard shortcuts that it is to learn Emacs''? Typically, it would be worth adding "YMMV" to your previous statement, because other people may find there isn''t a direct correlation between the ratio of their keyboard:mouse contact and their productivity - I''ve sat next to people at both extremes; of typing lots of noise, and typing amazing code with very few keypresses, regardless of their development environment. (of course, YMMV ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Michael Pavling <pavling-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:>> And people who shy away from that power aren''t really programmers IMO. > > Good job it''s worth a whole 2pence :-/I''ll take it. Paypal work?> How is it harder to learn the IDE keyboard shortcuts that it is to > learn Emacs''?I didn''t say it was harder, but you only get what it came pre-programmed with for the most part. Some of them offer some added shortcut functionality but nothing anywhere close to the power of making your own key binding in Lisp. Another thing is I can start Emacs once and run it until my next reboot, weeks or months from now. I have to restart Eclipse every few hours or so. I can start Emacs in a screen and continue my work from home later in the evening. I can background Emacs and type shell commands. It''s so much more. IDEs usually have a large memory footprint. Eclipse uses over half a GB of ram on my system. Emacs uses 13MBs of ram, but that''s only because I have a ton of stuff loaded like ERC, ECB, and Gnus.> Typically, it would be worth adding "YMMV" to your > previous statement, because other people may find there isn''t a direct > correlation between the ratio of their keyboard:mouse contact and > their productivity -If its your job to write code then just write the code. Are you a programmer or not?> I''ve sat next to people at both extremes; of > typing lots of noise, and typing amazing code with very few > keypresses,Yeah, that''s the .net people, plugging components together requires very little typing, and very little programming skills for that matter.> regardless of their development environment. > > (of course, YMMV ;-)Yup. -- Greg Donald destiney.com | gregdonald.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Michael Pavling
2010-Mar-15 20:22 UTC
Re: Re: Most popular IDEs for Ruby on Rails development
On 15 March 2010 19:53, Greg Donald <gdonald-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:>> How is it harder to learn the IDE keyboard shortcuts that it is to >> learn Emacs''? > > I didn''t say it was harder, but you only get what it came > pre-programmed with for the most part. Some of them offer some added > shortcut functionality but nothing anywhere close to the power of > making your own key binding in Lisp.You commented that your primary objection to IDEs was that they cause you to take your fingers off the keyboard - I suggested that it''s possible to navigate through (Ruby) projects all day with little use of the mouse, and also that some people aren''t *that* concerned about the hassle involved in moving their hand to a different input mechanism. <snip swathes of awesome features> Sure, there''s loads of pro''s to your favoured development environment (integrated or not) that cause *you* to experience great productivity; given the OP''s query, that''s all valuable input for him (if he ever comes back to this thread!) but it''s a little rude to dismiss people as 2nd class or worse because of the tools they use, or the fact that they care less about their RAM use, or shutting down their computer at night; essentially because they have different priorities to you.> If its your job to write code then just write the code.That''s certainly what a good corporate coding drone should do. I''m not one of those; I certainly program, but I''m not a "programmer" exclusively.>> I''ve sat next to people at both extremes; of >> typing lots of noise, and typing amazing code with very few >> keypresses, > > Yeah, that''s the .net people, plugging components together requires > very little typing, and very little programming skills for that > matter.Can''t comment, I''m afraid, I''ve no particular exposure with .Net (and it was not my intention to make a comment about different peoples'' productivity a reference to which language is "better") -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.