I have five tables that I am trying to get to work nicely together but may need some help. I have three main tables: accounts, members and roles. With two join tables account_members and account_member_roles. The accounts and members table are joined by account_members (fk account_id and member_id) table (many-to-many). No problem. The other 2 tables are the problem (roles and account_member_roles). A member of an account can have more than one role and I have the account_member_roles (fk account_member_id and role_id) table joining the account_members join table and the roles table. That seems logical (an account_member can have many roles (account_member_roles), unless anyone thinks differently. What I''d like to be able to do is when creaeting an account, for instance, I would like @account.save to include the roles and update the account_member_roles table neatly ..... but through the account_members join table. accept_nested_attributes_for :members exist in the account.rb so that''s no problem but I''d like a nested/nested accept_nested_attributes_for :account_member_roles in account.rb I''ve tried an accept_nested_attributes_for in the join model account_member.rb but it doesn''t work (even though logically that''s how it is) It''s late so maybe I''m overlooking something simple here or maybe there''s a better approach. CIA -ants -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.