Rails - Feb 2010 - PHP -> Ruby On Rails: advice wanted on customer management ( dns / email )

Ive searched this group and google Groups and hope this topic
will get approved since ruby on rails tak seems the only place I could
ask.

CURRENT SITUATION:
Currently Im using a Plesk, PHP, Ruby Enterprise VPS with the plesk
for managing customers ( email, passwords, etc )
Mainly all my websites use a custom account for each customer with its
own /httpdocs to serve the php files from ( Wordpress )
customers do not have ftp access and don''t need them, they only edit
there websites true the wordpress modified CMS we use.

WANTED SITUATION
I currently investigate in migrating all this to Radiant with the
Multisite Extension. Since I want to dish and leave PHP behind me
after falling in love with ROR.
It seems like a great solution to have a central radiant based CMS
solution but then there is the problem !

FACING PROBLEMS, ADVICE?
We need a solution to manage customers, create email accounts for them
and host this on the server.
We need a way to easily manage customers, adding emails hosting those
mailboxes, with spamassasin and preferreable some
config panel ( replacing plesk ) to mangage the server backups,
clients, email accounts and other settings.

Is there a solution for this? Ive searched high and low but found no
solution for this yet.
Advice on above would be higly appreciated. Thank you.

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On 09 Feb 2010, at 09:45, rubybox wrote:
> CURRENT SITUATION:
> Currently Im using a Plesk, PHP, Ruby Enterprise VPS with the plesk
> for managing customers ( email, passwords, etc )
> Mainly all my websites use a custom account for each customer with its
> own /httpdocs to serve the php files from ( Wordpress )
> customers do not have ftp access and don''t need them, they only
edit
> there websites true the wordpress modified CMS we use.
>
> WANTED SITUATION
> I currently investigate in migrating all this to Radiant with the
> Multisite Extension. Since I want to dish and leave PHP behind me
> after falling in love with ROR.
> It seems like a great solution to have a central radiant based CMS
> solution but then there is the problem !
>
> FACING PROBLEMS, ADVICE?
> We need a solution to manage customers, create email accounts for them
> and host this on the server.
> We need a way to easily manage customers, adding emails hosting those
> mailboxes, with spamassasin and preferreable some
> config panel ( replacing plesk ) to mangage the server backups,
> clients, email accounts and other settings.
>
> Is there a solution for this? Ive searched high and low but found no
> solution for this yet.
> Advice on above would be higly appreciated. Thank you.
Why would you need to give up Plesk for that? It''s just a matter of  
pointing to the same Radiant in the vhost.conf file if you use  
Passenger. Everything else just stays the way it is.

DocumentRoot /var/www/vhosts/mydomain.com/path/to/rails/app/public

No matter how much disadvantages and quirks I think Plesk and cPanel  
have, if you want to provide your customer with a fancy pancy control  
panel that they can understand and you can manage easily, using either  
one of those is a necessary evil.


Best regards

Peter De Berdt

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Hi

http://fotolink.adeveam.co.uk/login
user name:  admin
password:   pass

try this
if u find this ok ask me a customised CRM.

Regards,
Shyam
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On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, rubybox
<voorruby-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Ive searched this group and google Groups and hope this topic
> will get approved since ruby on rails tak seems the only place I could
> ask.
>
> CURRENT SITUATION:
> Currently Im using a Plesk, PHP, Ruby Enterprise VPS with the plesk
> for managing customers ( email, passwords, etc )
> Mainly all my websites use a custom account for each customer with its
> own /httpdocs to serve the php files from ( Wordpress )
> customers do not have ftp access and don''t need them, they only
edit
> there websites true the wordpress modified CMS we use.
>
> WANTED SITUATION
> I currently investigate in migrating all this to Radiant with the
> Multisite Extension. Since I want to dish and leave PHP behind me
> after falling in love with ROR.
> It seems like a great solution to have a central radiant based CMS
> solution but then there is the problem !
>
> FACING PROBLEMS, ADVICE?
> We need a solution to manage customers, create email accounts for them
> and host this on the server.
> We need a way to easily manage customers, adding emails hosting those
> mailboxes, with spamassasin and preferreable some
> config panel ( replacing plesk ) to mangage the server backups,
> clients, email accounts and other settings.
>
> Is there a solution for this? Ive searched high and low but found no
> solution for this yet.
> Advice on above would be higly appreciated. Thank you.
>
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> No matter how much disadvantages and quirks I think Plesk and cPanel  
> have, if you want to provide your customer with a fancy pancy control  
> panel that they can understand and you can manage easily, using either  
> one of those is a necessary evil.
>
> Best regards
>
> Peter De Berdt
I use plesk only myself, customers have no panel access. I create
domains and emails for them.
So Plesk should go.. It costs me around 120 EUR extra each year and
Its not that great,
If only I do is creating ruby apps I wont need the creation of
database with plesk, i can do all from command line.

A simple panel to create some users and email accounts would be nice
though.
Heroku does not support this I believe do you know a good ruby hoster
that does this?

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On 09 Feb 2010, at 13:10, rubybox wrote:
>> No matter how much disadvantages and quirks I think Plesk and cPanel
>> have, if you want to provide your customer with a fancy pancy control
>> panel that they can understand and you can manage easily, using  
>> either
>> one of those is a necessary evil.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Peter De Berdt
>
> I use plesk only myself, customers have no panel access. I create
> domains and emails for them.
> So Plesk should go.. It costs me around 120 EUR extra each year and
> Its not that great,
> If only I do is creating ruby apps I wont need the creation of
> database with plesk, i can do all from command line.
>
> A simple panel to create some users and email accounts would be nice
> though.
> Heroku does not support this I believe do you know a good ruby hoster
> that does this?
Well, if you want it to be free, you can just take Webmin and/or  
Virtualmin (http://www.webmin.com/). It''s not as userfriendly, but it  
does just about everything you can imagine through a web interface.

Some more alternatives are highlighted here: http://lordmatt.co.uk/item/966/


Best regards

Peter De Berdt

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rubybox wrote:
>> No matter how much disadvantages and quirks I think Plesk and cPanel �
>> have, if you want to provide your customer with a fancy pancy control �
>> panel that they can understand and you can manage easily, using either
�
>> one of those is a necessary evil.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Peter De Berdt
> 
> I use plesk only myself, customers have no panel access. I create
> domains and emails for them.
> So Plesk should go.. It costs me around 120 EUR extra each year and
> Its not that great,
> If only I do is creating ruby apps I wont need the creation of
> database with plesk, i can do all from command line.
> 
How about Webmin, then?

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