Rails - Sep 2009 - cost model for a RoR where users could upload lots of file? what approach?

Hi,

Any ideas/suggestions re what a good cost model / approach would be if
one''s Ruby on Rails application was to be successful, but noting users
(as part of the service/application) could upload lots of files
(images etc).

What''s a good way of have:
  (a) a simple cost model for use of the site, e.g. free up to X but
costs Y after this per every Z,
  (b) noting files/images etc have to be protected by the rails
authentication / authorization
  (c) makes sure I won''t start losing money (e.g. if users have to pay
less than the cost of storage / bandwidth)

Any good ideas/approaches?

Thanks

Greg Hauptmann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Any ideas/suggestions re what a good cost model / approach would be if
> one''s Ruby on Rails application was to be successful, but noting
users
> (as part of the service/application) could upload lots of files
> (images etc).
> 
> What''s a good way of have:
>   (a) a simple cost model for use of the site, e.g. free up to X but
> costs Y after this per every Z,
>   (b) noting files/images etc have to be protected by the rails
> authentication / authorization
>   (c) makes sure I won''t start losing money (e.g. if users have to
pay
> less than the cost of storage / bandwidth)
> 
> Any good ideas/approaches?
> 
> Thanks
Use an external repository for your images that has unlimited bandwidth 
unlimited drivespace and an acceptable uptime that charges a fixed cost 
per month.
www.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk is the what I use for image and doc 
hosting.
This approach will massively improve performance of any Rails site that 
serves static data and is extremely simple to implement by making use of 
asset_host.

Check out this blog
http://ariejan.net/2007/09/24/rails-20-new-features/
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

so you still use one the well known rails hosts sites for your actual
Rails app then James, but just use www.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk for
images etc right?  then you just use the rails
"config.action_controller.asset_host" concept (which was in the blog)
to handle users browsers picking up images directly from
www.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk?

2009/9/26 James West
<rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>:
>
> Greg Hauptmann wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Any ideas/suggestions re what a good cost model / approach would be if
>> one''s Ruby on Rails application was to be successful, but
noting users
>> (as part of the service/application) could upload lots of files
>> (images etc).
>>
>> What''s a good way of have:
>>   (a) a simple cost model for use of the site, e.g. free up to X but
>> costs Y after this per every Z,
>>   (b) noting files/images etc have to be protected by the rails
>> authentication / authorization
>>   (c) makes sure I won''t start losing money (e.g. if users
have to pay
>> less than the cost of storage / bandwidth)
>>
>> Any good ideas/approaches?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> Use an external repository for your images that has unlimited bandwidth
> unlimited drivespace and an acceptable uptime that charges a fixed cost
> per month.
> www.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk is the what I use for image and doc
> hosting.
> This approach will massively improve performance of any Rails site that
> serves static data and is extremely simple to implement by making use of
> asset_host.
>
> Check out this blog
> http://ariejan.net/2007/09/24/rails-20-new-features/
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>
> >
>


-- 
Greg
http://blog.gregnet.org/

Greg Hauptmann wrote:
> so you still use one the well known rails hosts sites for your actual
> Rails app then James, but just use www.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk for
> images etc right?  then you just use the rails
> "config.action_controller.asset_host" concept (which was in the
blog)
> to handle users browsers picking up images directly from
> www.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk?
> 
> 2009/9/26 James West
<rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>:
>>> � (a) a simple cost model for use of the site, e.g. free up to X
but
>> Use an external repository for your images that has unlimited bandwidth
>> --
>> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>>
>> >
>>
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Greg
> http://blog.gregnet.org/
yup,
I actually use Railsplayground.com for hosting the Rails sites on.
I''ve only moved about 20% of my images accross to the image hosting
site
and I have seen a noticeable performance improvement plus my bandwidth 
usage on the Rails host has dropped.
My image hist gives me all the bandwidth and drive space I need 
(Unlimited) for a fixed cost £3.15 p/m with unlimited subdomains so I 
use subdomains for my customers sites and a domain for the main images 
that appear on all sites.

This has given me the possibility of hosting much greater numbers of 
sites on my Rails host.

I didn''t actually worry too much about the cost of my project kicking 
off because I knew that if it did then I''d be making money.
I started with a basic developer package and just up[graded when I 
needed to with the full confidence that RailsPlayground would be happy 
and willing to cater for all my future requirements.

The secret is to find a host you can trust that will work with you and 
help you out.
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

Jruby has native multi-threading which could possibly give you better
scalability for concurrent uploads as well, worth looking at.

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 3:00 AM, James West
<rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> Greg Hauptmann wrote:
>> so you still use one the well known rails hosts sites for your actual
>> Rails app then James, but just use www.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk for
>> images etc right?  then you just use the rails
>> "config.action_controller.asset_host" concept (which was in
the blog)
>> to handle users browsers picking up images directly from
>> www.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk?
>>
>> 2009/9/26 James West
<rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>:
>>>> � (a) a simple cost model for use of the site, e.g. free up to
X but
>>> Use an external repository for your images that has unlimited
bandwidth
>>> --
>>> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Greg
>> http://blog.gregnet.org/
>
> yup,
> I actually use Railsplayground.com for hosting the Rails sites on.
> I''ve only moved about 20% of my images accross to the image
hosting site
> and I have seen a noticeable performance improvement plus my bandwidth
> usage on the Rails host has dropped.
> My image hist gives me all the bandwidth and drive space I need
> (Unlimited) for a fixed cost £3.15 p/m with unlimited subdomains so I
> use subdomains for my customers sites and a domain for the main images
> that appear on all sites.
>
> This has given me the possibility of hosting much greater numbers of
> sites on my Rails host.
>
> I didn''t actually worry too much about the cost of my project
kicking
> off because I knew that if it did then I''d be making money.
> I started with a basic developer package and just up[graded when I
> needed to with the full confidence that RailsPlayground would be happy
> and willing to cater for all my future requirements.
>
> The secret is to find a host you can trust that will work with you and
> help you out.
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>
> >
>