Patrick Doyle
2009-Jul-30 17:24 UTC
How to structure a database table with arbitrary labels for the columns?
I am starting to think about writing an RoR app to store some 2-D data. Most of the data are textual, although there could be a column of dates or a column of numbers here and there. The issue is: different data sets have different columns. Currently, the data are stored in spreadsheets. Many of the sheets share a common set of columns, but there are some differences (and more differences could be added later -- after all, they are just spreadsheets, and I can change the heading at the top of a column and start filling in data for that column at will.) Is this a common problem? If so, how have folks solved it? One solution might be to say, "You are an agile RoR developer (ok, it''s a bit of a stretch, but for the purpose of this argument, let''s pretend it''s true), adding a column to a database is just as easy as adding a column to a spreadsheet. Design the application with the columns you know about today. Add more columns tomorrow when you discover/decide you need them." Another solution might be to create a table of headings for each column and create a table with just text values associated with each type of heading (and associated with the other table(s) to which the data belongs). Do the same thing for the numeric data and the date data. Design the application so it''s easy to add columns via the UI. Another solution might be to do something completely different. Any ideas/suggestions? --wpd
bill walton
2009-Jul-30 19:07 UTC
Re: How to structure a database table with arbitrary labels for the columns?
Hi Patrick, On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 13:24 -0400, Patrick Doyle wrote:> I am starting to think about writing an RoR app to store some 2-D > data.>From your explanation / question below, I have to ask and do not mean toput you off but, are you an experienced software developer? If not, I''d strongly recommend you start slow. While I haven''t read it personally, I''ve heard lots of recommendations for Chris Pine''s "Learn to Program" which teaches basic programming concepts using Ruby. As a second course, you might try "Why''s (poignant) Guide to Ruby". After that, yes, the problem you discuss is very common. When you''re ready, go with your first proposed solution. Best regards, Bill
cnk
2009-Jul-30 19:47 UTC
Re: How to structure a database table with arbitrary labels for the columns?
Adding columns via code isn''t hard. You''ll have to double check that the new columns are picked up in your objects without having to restart the server when operating in production mode. But the real question is, is there enough commonality between data sets that whatever you are trying to do is well solved using a database? The flexibility to just have data and not have it constrained by a schema is what spreadsheets are good at.
Patrick Doyle
2009-Jul-31 00:38 UTC
Re: How to structure a database table with arbitrary labels for the columns?
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:47 PM, cnk<cynthia.kiser-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> database? The flexibility to just have data and not have it > constrained by a schema is what spreadsheets are good at.Ohhh... Great answer! I suspect I''ll just gather the data into the table that I know exists now. I was asking because (as is typical of me), I was dreaming about how I might bite off more than I could chew -- wanting to allow the end user to create arbitrary data sets displayed in tabular form, with arbitrary names and types for the different columns. But, as I''ve thought about it more, it has occurred to me that I will probably get 99.9% of the way where I want to be just by defining the table I need, and creating the relationships necessary to extract and edit specific data sets within that table. But thanks for the great answer. --wpd